Excellent Cuttin Diet

[brotheriron]

"are you NOT gonna feed your body just because you pre planned a certain dietary guideline that you believe you absolutely positively gotta follow to a tee?"

The answer is no obviously dont feed yourself no matter what your body wants. That leads to fucking cakes and burgers. When a diet is set it should be stuck to no matter what.
bro

 

[SOLID]

Eating carbs on a diet??????????????
Woah, thats not a clever thing to do. Why dextrose?
IMO carbs in a diet should be very slow release, eg yams.
The reason for low carbs is to force the body to use fat as energy.
Then why take in fast acting sugars??
Add 10 good amino acid tablets with each meal, keep carbs between 50-200g and protein well over 300, you wont lose hardly any muscle and the fat will fall off
bro

first off, you call 200g of carbs a low carb diet? Ha. Second you ever heard of timed nutrition? Yes to keep your body in fat burning mode you need to have an absence of insulin which promotes fat storage, however, you can stay in fat burning mode all day by not eating any carbs, then in the pm postworkout take in simple sugars that spike insulin levels (one of the 2 only times I feel a need for carbs) quickly shuttle nutrients to the cells. And if your training correctly ...intensely- your not going to store any of those carbs as fat since your already in a delpleted state. SO, as I say again, keep following your ways bro, diet hard, train hard, keep your cardio high and your carbs low and watch your fat melt away...dragging your wilted muscle with it.

 

[JP@Ironology]

Well the day i worry about getting bigger on a pre contest diet will be the day i listen to the carb boys. However if competing is the goal and dieting is only for competitions i'll do what all the top UK amateurs I know do, considering how far they have got. And there aint many around me that look any better.

Bro

If your goal is to compete it is always wise to listen to those who have gone through the process.

 

[leancuisine]

"are you NOT gonna feed your body just because you pre planned a certain dietary guideline that you believe you absolutely positively gotta follow to a tee?"

The answer is no obviously dont feed yourself no matter what your body wants. That leads to fucking cakes and burgers. When a diet is set it should be stuck to no matter what.
bro

i don't agree.
when a diet is set you should stick to it as much as possible. but at times, your body needs extra like after a really intense work out session. at such times when your body calls for extra intake, you owe it to your body to eat more despite of those pre-determined diet schedule.
i'm not saying eat a cake or a burger, but another 8 egg whites and a can of soya beans certainly CANNOT do any bad.

 

[Machiavellian Muscle]

dextrose is good post workout. When you are done training you have a limited golden hour to absorb your carbs. If you take in yams/potatoes etc. immediately post workout they will not be absorbed quickly into your body. Post workout dextrose gets absorbed quickly with the protein. Try it then follow with a meal with carbs about an hour later. Take 500 ala with this shake and another 500 in your following carb meal.

 

[ammon]

I have to totally agree with SOLID on this...sorry, "bro"- you just aren't right.

Taking in a small amount of simple carbs, ESPECIALLY post workout, EVEN while dieting is a good idea. First of all, after an intense workout, the muscles are glycogen depleted, especially while dieting. Using dextrose post-workout will promote an insulin response to help shuttle those carbs back into MUSCLE TISSUE for glycogen storage - not fat cells- as well as increase the uptake of protein and amino acids needed for repair and recovery. If you are still skeptical, throw in 500mg to 1 gram of ala to aid in glucose disposal. Why not utilize that anabolic window post workout by increasing glycogen storage and protein synthesis? And you stated that 50-200g of carbs for daily intake is acceptable? When is the best time to take those carbs in, in your opinion? When the body can't utilize them to re-fuel depleted stores? I don't think so. Without some attention to post workout recovery, you can expect yourself to lose a shit load of fat and muscle, all the while overtraining yourself into the ground.

Bottom line- take in less caloreis than you expend, and manipulate your body's hormones by timely consumption of macronutrients. Increasing workout intensity (by means of adequate glycogen storage) will also allow you to burn more calories- a win/win situation.

 

[KillerLoop]

I think brotheriron is just talking about precontest dieting. That and just dieting for the average joe to get lean are two different things IMO.

 

[brotheriron]

Yeah if people read my post, pre contest diet. And i know more people who compete than there are people on this board.
So you can all eat your carbs because your tired and had a hard workout three days before you enter a national and watch your physique go from a top three placing to being too embarassed to go on stage.
Yeah fill the muscles with glycogen every day of your fuckin diet, then watch... You dont lose any fat. The body aint fuckin stupid, when the muscles are constantly full of glycogen your body wont start the complicated process of breaking down fats into glycogen to use as muscle fuel because your fuckin eating it.
Good luck on your diets, perhaps you should come and compete this year, Nabba Britain, Nabba world, and Wabba Mr England, i'd love to see how your diets compare on stage
bro

 

[bmit]

Totally with Solid and Ammon, simple carbs after post weights. i wouldn't after cardio. But your first goal when cutting should be to keep the muscle you have, and second to lose the excess fat. To me it makes no sense to bulk then cut w.o. carbs and lose half the muscle you worked and ate for. You may lose weight slower by carbs post workout, but at least it your muscles will be full of glycogen and strong. and that way you are burning fat not muscle. Up your cardio then to compensate for the dextrose calories, but fucking feed your muscles or they get catabolic. If you work out w/ any intensity those carbs should be going to muscles and not stored as fat anyway.

 

[Golfer18--old]

Nice post SOLID. Same shit I was saying.