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Evidence suggesting FINA contains ESTROGEN

The evidence is your saliva test shows a high level of estrogen. That all.

Finaplix-H does not contain estrogen. There is too much regulatory oversite, let alone an entirely different manufacturing process for that to happen.

It's not mispackaged Synovex, they are made by separate companies. Finaplix is easily available and is packaged differently.

So what about the score? Some suggestions:

1. It's wrong. It's a mail-in saliva test. Perhaps you ended up with some woman's test or they screwed up on the reading or something happened in shipping or ??? It happens.

2. You've had gyno in the past. Perhaps there's something else going on in your system. You've mentioned that you've had test level problems (in the past).

3. Perhaps it was something else you took.

I'm betting on 1.
 
With that level of estrogen you'd resemble a blow fish.

I'm betting on #1 as well.

Fonz
 
Is it possible that fina metabolites or fina itself shows up like estradiol in a test? I would say that if your estrogen level really was 200 times above baseline, you should have hooters like Lola Ferrari.
 
I am convinced that estrogen was in my FINA because:
1) My saliva test AND blood test were VERY similar (418 and 398 pg/ml)
2) I get bloodwork all the time, and this is VERY abnormal for me.
3) After taking using FINA orally I would get flushed....resembling a hotflash.

I will retest soon since I have been off FINA for about 2 weeks, then I will test myself again several hours after taking a single oral dose. I think this would solve the question. I hope i am wrong about this.
There must be someone out there who has done bloodwork while on FINA........what did your estrogen measure?!?!?
Despite the high estrogen I remained super lean and vascular.
 
biggerthanu450 said:
I am convinced that estrogen was in my FINA because:
1) My saliva test AND blood test were VERY similar (418 and 398 pg/ml)
2) I get bloodwork all the time, and this is VERY abnormal for me.
3) After taking using FINA orally I would get flushed....resembling a hotflash.

I will retest soon since I have been off FINA for about 2 weeks, then I will test myself again several hours after taking a single oral dose. I think this would solve the question. I hope i am wrong about this.
There must be someone out there who has done bloodwork while on FINA........what did your estrogen measure?!?!?
Despite the high estrogen I remained super lean and vascular.
check ur pm.:fro:
 
BIGGERTHANU450

HOW MUCH WEIGHT DID YOU GAIN?AND DID YOUR STRENGHT INCREASE?DID YOU FEEL ANY TENDERNESS ON NIPS OR ITCHINESS OR SECRETION OF LIQUID?
 
At the start of the cycle I could bench 405 for 4 and at the end of 2 weeks i was getting it for a solid 6 reps with one additional forced rep. My weight only went up a few pounds (3-4), but my vascularity increased. I had NO bloat, which is inconsistent with high estrogen, but I am not going to argue with 2 separate test results. I think the strength of trenbolone overwhelms the effect of estrogen due to the fact that it has incredible binding affinity to multiple types of steroid receptors. That is my best guess!
 
I have chemically analyzed finaplix-H on at least two occasions. Only trenbolone acetate (and methyl cellulose binder) was present. I checked by TLC and 1HNMR. THERE IS NO ESTROGEN IN COMMERCIAL FINAPLIX-H.

Fina doesn't aromatize and form estrogen by metabolism so that isn't a possibility either.

As Sigmund stated above, it is plausible that trenbolone itself could be mistaken for estrogen in some types of tests. Remember, trenbolone is not a naturally occuring hormone in humans and developers of an estrogen test would have no incentive or reason to develop a test capable of telling the two hormones apart.

Try this: Assuming that your fina pellets are yellow (not white) and came in a belt (rather than a cylindrical container), have another saliva test bu this time put a little crushed up fina pellet and a little water on the test trip. If that comes back as positive for estrogen, than the hypothesis above is proven.

-Spidey
 
Try this: Assuming that your fina pellets are yellow (not white) and came in a belt (rather than a cylindrical container), have another saliva test bu this time put a little crushed up fina pellet and a little water on the test trip. If that comes back as positive for estrogen, than the hypothesis above is proven.
-Spidey


Good idea.
 
Him1 said:
Try this: Assuming that your fina pellets are yellow (not white) and came in a belt (rather than a cylindrical container), have another saliva test bu this time put a little crushed up fina pellet and a little water on the test trip. If that comes back as positive for estrogen, than the hypothesis above is proven.
-Spidey


Good idea.
I THOUGHT IT WAS PROVEN YOU CANT TAKE THE PROGESTRONE OR THE PROPIONATE OUT OF THE FINA?:confused: NO MATTER HOW CLEAN OR STERILE YOU MAKE IT?THATS WHY I BUY MY TREN ALREADY MADE BY BOOTLEGGERS,THEY MAKE IT BY POWDER USP GRADE TRENBOLONE,MAYBE I COULD START SAVING MONEY BY MAKING MY OWN !HELP ME OUT BROTHERS:fro:
 
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