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needtogetas said:
he did it to me,angel,brothabill,bbo79,ka-bar,and i know of alote more to.


If you or anyone else on this board has the PM's of being threatened or links to the posts, send them to me. Shit like this will not be tolerated at all.

And in the future, if any of you do find yourselves a victim of a ban or anything else like that, my email is :

[email protected]
 
Wow...I have been off of the board for almost a year and came back recently to see how it was going. I was a member before "Platinum" even existed. I decided to join up and go Plat. That was a mistake.

Who is running these boards now, Mods or Scammers? If people were coming forward with a known scammer, they would be outed, immediatly! What the hell is going on here? I don't know all the facts of this mess but if EF wants to remain resspected (at least by me and my $$), something needs to be done, NOW.

I really hope that the board hasn't really become this bad.
 
mods close this shit...its got C&C instigators written all over it...you scumbags...indy has done nothing but help you out and you do this shit to him...reveal his family...fuckin sickens me...the way i see it you people dont deserve a person like indy
 
needtogetas said:
I have bin makeing a list.I told that peace of shit i was to.
the part that pissis me off is the person that was backing him was a mod.
all the people that were thretend by him should speek up now.I know of a few but i know there is alote more.


Dude is there anything u DONT KNOW on here????
 
indy is a self serving narccisist why do you passionatly protect him?
 
newbiebynature said:
mods close this shit...its got C&C instigators written all over it...you scumbags...indy has done nothing but help you out and you do this shit to him...reveal his family...fuckin sickens me...the way i see it you people dont deserve a person like indy



Have u been reading all of this thread? u think they are ALL lieing????
 
racoon_city said:
indy is a self serving narccisist why do you passionatly protect him?


good question. If he is not guilty, you'd think he would try to make it up and not insult the angry mob. Who knows, maybe more people were in on it...this is a mess.

Where is Huck, Mustang?...I know these guys are legit and stand up guys...maybe they should get involved.
 
it feels like an out of control bar fight in here!! needtogetas is terrorizing everythread like a beligerant drunk and newbiebynature is running around here like a wounded soldier!!!

this shit is going down in the history books!!!
 
Jezz people you're letting the potential guilty actions of one man divide all of you.

No one here will know what the truth is, those that have lost - lost and there's no way to undo that, a risk was taken and people lost.

To speculate what happened, how, when, who and how it will turn out is really a waste of energy unless that energy is used to vent and get this off and out of your system.

To each his own.
 
newbiebynature said:
mods close this shit...its got C&C instigators written all over it...you scumbags...indy has done nothing but help you out and you do this shit to him...reveal his family...fuckin sickens me...the way i see it you people dont deserve a person like indy
this shit does not need to be shut down....i think it is good for indy to keep trying to protect his actions and explain himself..the board needs to hear it....if he sits back and says nothing then he looks guilty.
Now if you dont like it go to another thread and stop coming in here.
 
AAP said:
If you or anyone else on this board has the PM's of being threatened or links to the posts, send them to me. Shit like this will not be tolerated at all.

And in the future, if any of you do find yourselves a victim of a ban or anything else like that, my email is :

[email protected]
give me a few minets but i think I at least have the meseges he sent me when he gave me red.I know I deleted anny pms but the red it msg are still there.
 
HumanTarget said:
Needto is Diggers alter. masterfully done, i must say......
are you saying i am married to digger? wooohooo
btw i am eating another whole salad enjoying this thread!
 
newbiebynature said:
and your a fucking drama hungry instigator...let it go....


And I am a mod that actually cares about members enjoying this site and spending time here. Without threatening to be banned.

So I don't think I am going to let that go.

I don't give a shit about Satch.

I don't give a shit about Indy's relationship with Satch.

I honest to God don't even give a shit about any money that was lost to Satch.

But fucking around with members of this site is not something that I am going to overlook. Granted some members here may do something that warrants a warning of being banned and even - and in some cases result - in being banned. But those warnings and bannings are a moderator/admin matter. If you ain't in that group, you don't have a place running around acting like you do.
 
ladies get the fuck outta here until some resolve is made OKAY//except velvet
 
Angel said:
this shit does not need to be shut down....i think it is good for indy to keep trying to protect his actions and explain himself..the board needs to hear it....if he sits back and says nothing then he looks guilty.
Now if you dont like it go to another thread and stop coming in here.
maybe every1 is not on this site 23 hours and 57 minutes a day like you are...got it?
 
velvett said:
Jezz people you're letting the potential guilty actions of one man divide all of you.

No one here will know what the truth is, those that have lost - lost and there's no way to undo that, a risk was taken and people lost.

To speculate what happened, how, when, who and how it will turn out is really a waste of energy unless that energy is used to vent and get this off and out of your system.

To each his own.
*sigh* you are such a killjoy! i mean, c'mon, who doesn't love a mob??? i've got a torch in one hand and a pitch-fork in the other!
 
AAP said:
And I am a mod that actually cares about members enjoying this site and spending time here. Without threatening to be banned.

So I don't think I am going to let that go.

I don't give a shit about Satch.

I don't give a shit about Indy's relationship with Satch.

I honest to God don't even give a shit about any money that was lost to Satch.

But fucking around with members of this site is not something that I am going to overlook. Granted some members here may do something that warrants a warning of being banned and even - and in some cases result - in being banned. But those warnings and bannings are a moderator/admin matter. If you ain't in that group, you don't have a place running around acting like you do.


so why was indy so powder struck? he had help form the inside i suspect a mod. why would a mod passionatly protect his redneck musclecar loving ass? hhmmmm starting to come full circle
 
I don't have the message that Indy sent me anymore, but it went something like this.

"Your post is bullshit, take it down or else."

Wish I still had it, but didn't much care what he said so I deleted it.

Starting to think Newbiebynature is somehow part of this, or he is atleast Indies boytoy.
 
now newbie is picking on the girls!!!

hey buddy!! needtogatas is looking for a brawl why dont you leave the girls alone and go square up with him???
 
velvett said:
ya know, you used to be able to meet a nice girl by raiding her village. but now, pffff, with all of this progressive, non-lynching thinking.......
 
AAP said:
Indy, is this true? Have you been threatening to have people banned on here? This is the second individual that has said this about you.

If so, I would like to know HOW you planned on accomplishing this? Because when it comes to banning people on Elite Fitness, that comes down to the mods and admin. Of which, you are neither.

What gives you the right to determine who is or is not banned on here? What the fuck is that all about? Needto has said this and now Triple J says the same thing.

If this is not true, then I need you to post on here that it is not true and discredit these people making these accusations. But I have already stated that no one is going to get bullied around these boards by any individuals mods or members alike as long as I have a say so about it. Which being a mod, I do.


you got pm
 
I have my own theory as to what happened but I won't add to all the idle speculation. I just think that Indy was trying to defend satch because he thought he was a good guy and he thought he was his friend. In the end, I think that Indy was duped by satch and until I see proof that he was willingly, and actively involed in satch's evil deeds then I will give him the benefit of a doubt!


cheers.
 
d_o_c_ said:
I don't have the message that Indy sent me anymore, but it went something like this.

"Your post is bullshit, take it down or else."

Wish I still had it, but didn't much care what he said so I deleted it.

Starting to think Newbiebynature is somehow part of this, or he is atleast Indies boytoy.
this place is in need of a serious colon-cleansing.
 
RADAR said:
Most everyone here knows my integrity on this forum,Indy Has been my friend for over 2 yrs now, I've been talking to mrs Indy and she is pissed, as far as Indy himself his worst crime was hanging with the wrong person, (I'm sure some of you have done that a time or two)
Indy had no dealings with Satch, Satch never even told Indy anything about the business except used him as a pawn.
That being said i hope this sets the record straight-Indy is still the same indy before all this went down, a trustworthy brother who i wouldn't hestitate to offer the shirt off my back to!


RADAR

Radar and Indy are still both good guys, just some unfortunate events lately
 
soxfan said:
I have my own theory as to what happened but I won't add to all the idle speculation. I just think that Indy was trying to defend satch because he thought he was a good guy and he thought he was his friend. In the end, I think that Indy was duped by satch and until I see proof that he was willingly, and actively involed in satch's evil deeds then I will give him the benefit of a doubt!


cheers.

ok for the last god damn time is indy 15 fucking years old?
 
racoon_city said:
now newbie is picking on the girls!!!

hey buddy!! needtogatas is looking for a brawl why dont you leave the girls alone and go square up with him???
even u said it "buddy"...get back on C&C where u belong...and stop trying to be her knigth and shining armor...1. shes taken by needto...2. you wont get any...oh and to the guy that thinks im in on it....your a fuckin retard...im in on it why? cuz im defending my friend that has nothing to do with this? i think more of the AAS board people should speak up...not these drama hungry people...
 
soxfan said:
I have my own theory as to what happened but I won't add to all the idle speculation. I just think that Indy was trying to defend satch because he thought he was a good guy and he thought he was his friend. In the end, I think that Indy was duped by satch and until I see proof that he was willingly, and actively involed in satch's evil deeds then I will give him the benefit of a doubt!


cheers.

WOW, that actually sounds fair !!!! Chain gang does not work like that around here though, unfortunately for me. I got fucked like everyone else, I was just the LAST one to get fucked. Thanks for the benefit of the doubt, and in the mean time, all evidence asked for has been handed over to EF, not that it's helped me any here tonight


Good Bye
 
newbiebynature said:
maybe every1 is not on this site 23 hours and 57 minutes a day like you are...got it?


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newbiebynature said:
maybe every1 is not on this site 23 hours and 57 minutes a day like you are...got it?
nope all i got was you taking satch/radar/indy side and you are getting angry at the thought of any thing being wrong with them....beginning to wonder why!
GOT IT?
 
indy you have to come up with something fast ,,,,, just answer questions what are you afraid of? it cant get any worst for you.....if you truly got betrayed by stach and are afraid of reprocussion the send an annonymous email to aap or mustang18, or even ulter.
 
Well, I was hoping Indy would not leave until I heard his side of these banning threats stories.

Judging from what I have seen in my PM box, it doesn't look all that good.

I can assure each and everyone of you on this thread now or in the future that unless a person is a mod or admin, YOU WILL NOT BE THREATENED for anything. If that person doesn't like anything you posted, they best ignore it and let the staff handle it.
 
AAP said:
Well, I was hoping Indy would not leave until I heard his side of these banning threats stories.

Judging from what I have seen in my PM box, it doesn't look all that good.

I can assure each and everyone of you on this thread now or in the future that unless a person is a mod or admin, YOU WILL NOT BE THREATENED for anything. If that person doesn't like anything you posted, they best ignore it and let the staff handle it.


good bro^^^
 
racoon_city said:
ok for the last god damn time is indy 15 fucking years old?
So, you have never made a mistake and trusted and defended someone who you shouldn't have? If you are perfect then more power to you but some of actually make mistakes! I think that Indy was naive and gave his loyalty and friendship to a scumbag who did not deserve it and he admitted as much!
 
HumanTarget said:
that's some funny shit. and btw, we're all paying members here. and if i'm payin', i'm stayin'.


:) yeap, no shit. Look at this. Something is stinky:

Last Purchased Items
indy69camaro donated 100000 karma to newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006 - 09:51 PM
indy69camaro diffused a g-bomb of newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006 - 08:22 PM
indy69camaro platinumbombed newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006
 
foreigngirl said:
:) yeap, no shit. Look at this. Something is stinky:

Last Purchased Items
indy69camaro donated 100000 karma to newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006 - 09:51 PM
indy69camaro diffused a g-bomb of newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006 - 08:22 PM
indy69camaro platinumbombed newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006


HOLY SHIT!!


that says alot

newbiebynature is a fuking scumbag!
 
foreigngirl said:
:) yeap, no shit. Look at this. Something is stinky:

Last Purchased Items
indy69camaro donated 100000 karma to newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006 - 09:51 PM
indy69camaro diffused a g-bomb of newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006 - 08:22 PM
indy69camaro platinumbombed newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006
yea and u know what pisses me off? its gonna suck if he donated that to me because he no longer wants to be a part of this community anymore...all so u could get some drama out of this shit...fuck you...i dont give a shit if your a girl, guy...whatever...fuckin sickens me..
 
so far we have three people maybe 4 to lynch

#1 satch
#2 indy
#3 newbiebynature
#4 ??? what mod????
 
newbiebynature said:
yea and u know what pisses me off? its gonna suck if he donated that to me because he no longer wants to be a part of this community anymore...all so u could get some drama out of this shit...fuck you...i dont give a shit if your a girl, guy...whatever...fuckin sickens me..


qofz9c.jpg
 
newbiebynature said:
yea and u know what pisses me off? its gonna suck if he donated that to me because he no longer wants to be a part of this community anymore...all so u could get some drama out of this shit...fuck you...i dont give a shit if your a girl, guy...whatever...fuckin sickens me..
maybe he is leaving because he done fucked up...AAP called his ass out and the little bitch ran!!!!! quick go chase him maybe you can catch him and let him know how much you will miss him being here with you!
 
newbiebynature said:
yea and u know what pisses me off? its gonna suck if he donated that to me because he no longer wants to be a part of this community anymore...all so u could get some drama out of this shit...fuck you...i dont give a shit if your a girl, guy...whatever...fuckin sickens me..



I have never had a problem with INDY but the bottom line he is in alot of shit right now, between the satch shit and now the threating shit do u think anybody is going to respect him? His name is tarnished all over the internet so if he is here or not doesnt matter nothing good can come out of it

Now you on the other hand are just a tool, so arguing on the internet is pointless i will bomb you everyday will u have neg K and no one will listen to you anymore, not that they do now
 
newbiebynature i wouldn't get mixed up with this bullshit people are gonna think you are involved with indy now.. and that wouldn't be good with you..
 
Angel said:
maybe he is leaving because he done fucked up...AAP called his ass out and the little bitch ran!!!!! quick go chase him maybe you can catch him and let him know how much you will miss him being here with you!
obviously u wont miss him cuz well...i dont think youve ever even seen a gym so lets just drop that...but he helped me tons u fuckin retard...
 
DieselGunz said:
I have never had a problem with INDY but the bottom line he is in alot of shit right now, between the satch shit and now the threating shit do u think anybody is going to respect him? His name is tarnished all over the internet so if he is here or not doesnt matter nothing good can come out of it

Now you on the other hand are just a tool, so arguing on the internet is pointless i will bomb you everyday will u have neg K and no one will listen to you anymore, not that they do now



what bothers me is that Indy, clearly, is on-line and following this. Why is he letting Newbie get all the fire? Why doesnt he come in here and confront everyone? Or he had to tuck his tail and back up?
 
newbiebynature said:
obviously u wont miss him cuz well...i dont think youve ever even seen a gym so lets just drop that...but he helped me tons u fuckin retard...
no gladly i wont..and dare i ask how he helped you out? get a cut off of what satch was selling? or maybe a profit for ass kissing?
I am not a retard! I would just like to know why you are getting so damned pissy over satch/radar/and indy! i can see he helped you but damn chill the fuck out......
 
WTF!!!!

newbiebynature is still menacing the women...

bro needtogetas is still waiting for you in the wings!!!!
 
DieselGunz said:
I have never had a problem with INDY but the bottom line he is in alot of shit right now, between the satch shit and now the threating shit do u think anybody is going to respect him? His name is tarnished all over the internet so if he is here or not doesnt matter nothing good can come out of it

Now you on the other hand are just a tool, so arguing on the internet is pointless i will bomb you everyday will u have neg K and no one will listen to you anymore, not that they do now
bomb me i dont give a shit...im gonna stand up for my friend...go collect your karma in C&C u prick...and i dont give a fuck what my reputation is like on this site...i barely ever fuckin post anyways...im just sick of this bullshit talk cuz people from C&C want to see this shit ride out for their pleasure..
 
foreigngirl said:
what bothers me is that Indy, clearly, is on-line and following this. Why is he letting Newbie get all the fire? Why doesnt he come in here and confront everyone? Or he had to tuck his tail and back up?

wtf?
 
newbiebynature said:
bomb me i dont give a shit...im gonna stand up for my friend...go collect your karma in C&C u prick...and i dont give a fuck what my reputation is like on this site...i barely ever fuckin post anyways...im just sick of this bullshit talk cuz people from C&C want to see this shit ride out for their pleasure..


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newbiebynature said:
bomb me i dont give a shit...im gonna stand up for my friend...go collect your karma in C&C u prick...and i dont give a fuck what my reputation is like on this site...i barely ever fuckin post anyways...im just sick of this bullshit talk cuz people from C&C want to see this shit ride out for their pleasure..

barely post c'mon.. juiceball.. i think you should take a timeout from the computer..
 
newbiebynature said:
obviously u wont miss him cuz well...i dont think youve ever even seen a gym so lets just drop that...but he helped me tons u fuckin retard...
lol my wife dont need to go to the gym bitch.she looks absalotly amaizing.she is a nice small 97lb size 0 bomb shell.so ya lets just drop that.

btw we can see that indy helped you.just how much is what we are trying to find out here.it seems to me you may be pritty involed in the family biss.
 
Angel said:
no gladly i wont..and dare i ask how he helped you out? get a cut off of what satch was selling? or maybe a profit for ass kissing?
I am not a retard! I would just like to know why you are getting so damned pissy over satch/radar/and indy! i can see he helped you but damn chill the fuck out......
more assumptions? nice...whats next? im a scammer cuz i stick up for a friend? go back to C&C
 
foreigngirl said:
:) yeap, no shit. Look at this. Something is stinky:

Last Purchased Items
indy69camaro donated 100000 karma to newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006 - 09:51 PM
indy69camaro diffused a g-bomb of newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006 - 08:22 PM
indy69camaro platinumbombed newbiebynature on 03-Mar-2006

well my guess many other shady dealings such as this

wise man say where there is smoke there is fire

and newbie ... what a joke
 
Triple J said:
well my guess many other shady dealings such as this

wise man say where there is smoke there is fire

and newbie ... what a joke


I agree, but you never know. It sure seems like something is cooking
 
you guys are gonna get this locked before all of the funny stuff i've got to say is posted.
 
newbiebynature said:
bomb me i dont give a shit...im gonna stand up for my friend...go collect your karma in C&C u prick...and i dont give a fuck what my reputation is like on this site...i barely ever fuckin post anyways...im just sick of this bullshit talk cuz people from C&C want to see this shit ride out for their pleasure..



Ok I will bomb you......I get K from AAS board 2 ass hole......your rep is shit, aslong as you know that :)

I am not from C&C I am from AAS board first, the bottom line is you are fighting for people who are not fighting for themselves it doesnt make sense.

If satch and INdy where here along with you i could see it but arent both of you are fighing for satch and he isnt even on here WHY WHY WHY??

I dont care about the scammer but if INdy is bossing people around that is just not right..bottom line
 
this thread is so fucking useless...im gonna piss you faggots off by cutting this off right now...no more pleasure for you AHAHAHA...might as well go back to C&C now...
peace
 
newbiebynature said:
more assumptions? nice...whats next? im a scammer cuz i stick up for a friend? go back to C&C
no you are not a scammer but damn.....here is an idea...i have a friend who is in c&c and just went through a lot of shit that should not have..I did not say much about it except that i did not believe the rumors...i left it at that...unlike you who are getting your bikini bitch panties in a bunch because people have a right to call some one out.....the bitch took off couldnt even stand up for himself...leaves you in a storm to take it all too....and i do not need to go to c&c i pay to be on this site whether you like it or not and i will damn well go into which ever forum i choose.
 
DieselGunz said:
Ok I will bomb you......I get K from AAS board 2 ass hole......your rep is shit, aslong as you know that :)

I am not from C&C I am from AAS board first, the bottom line is you are fighting for people who are not fighting for themselves it doesnt make sense.

If satch and INdy where here along with you i could see it but arent both of you are fighing for satch and he isnt even on here WHY WHY WHY??

I dont care about the scammer but if INdy is bossing people around that is just not right..bottom line
im not fighting for satch u fuckin retard....im fighting for indy...do u not realize youve made his life fucking hell? and as for the AAS board karma...well...i can post someone elses opinion who has aready posted on that thread too
 
newbiebynature said:
bomb me i dont give a shit...im gonna stand up for my friend...go collect your karma in C&C u prick...and i dont give a fuck what my reputation is like on this site...i barely ever fuckin post anyways...im just sick of this bullshit talk cuz people from C&C want to see this shit ride out for their pleasure..
god a cant wate to red you again.the sespance is killing me.lol
 
DieselGunz said:
Ok I will bomb you......I get K from AAS board 2 ass hole......your rep is shit, aslong as you know that :)

I am not from C&C I am from AAS board first, the bottom line is you are fighting for people who are not fighting for themselves it doesnt make sense.

If satch and INdy where here along with you i could see it but arent both of you are fighing for satch and he isnt even on here WHY WHY WHY??

I dont care about the scammer but if INdy is bossing people around that is just not right..bottom line
no shit dude..i get k from this board also....i bombed his ass and already almost made up for the difference....
he needs to step away from the computer before he makes his rep go down more
 
Lestat said:
I do not think you are a scammer.

Many people here supported satch, including myself. He had been here MANY years and everyone thought he was a stand up, A+, top notch bro. And he did help a lot of people out. I can't say whether his gear was bunk or not, i never ordered or used it.

Also, I have seen no evidence that satch IS a scammer. Where are the people that were scammed? typically when someone scams, you see thread after thread about people who LOST money in the deal. Where are the people that actually got fucked?

Some people have known that satch was looking to retire. Is there a chance he fulfilled all outstanding orders before just calling it quits?

Ill tell you one right now. Owner of GTP is out over 10k!!

I want to know where is all the satch supporters at now? You guys were washing his balls for him for years, and not one is stepping forward to defend him. I dont buy anything that comes from Indys mouth. He admitted satch was like a brother to him and him and his wife talked to satch frequently. Either satch is a great liar, or you(indy) are just too damn stupid to realize anything. You wont get me to think otherwise, Indy was in on it!
 
newbiebynature said:
this thread is so fucking useless...im gonna piss you faggots off by cutting this off right now...no more pleasure for you AHAHAHA...might as well go back to C&C now...
peace
i don't know why you totally immersed yourself with the type of shit talk i hear in the pub erry night. you wanted to Champion Indy, well, what did you expect? he ain't trying to defend himself, why would you? maybe you had a positive experience dealing with them, but it seems a lot have not. i sure the hell threw my gears in reverse after hearing how such a Good, Reputable Bro had turned scam. i won't be spending anymore money here.
 
Its just shady as hell that Satch's personal info isn't posted. So for some reason he is better than previous scammers. :rolleyes: Indy just probably came back in a last ditch effort to clear his name, after he saw his website posted.
 
newbiebynature said:
your a fucking retard...U GAVE ME GREEN ABOUT AN HOUR AGO...YOU DIDNT RED ME...
it happens.lol thats why i had to plat-bomb you.b.s ts says if you give grean on acsadent then you must plat or g-bomb.
evry one has made that mistake more then once to.but dont worry you will get youre red to.
 
boyer said:
Its just shady as hell that Satch's personal info isn't posted. So for some reason he is better than previous scammers. :rolleyes: Indy just probably came back in a last ditch effort to clear his name, after he saw his website posted.


BINGO!!!!
 
newbiebynature said:
im not fighting for satch u fuckin retard....im fighting for indy...do u not realize youve made his life fucking hell? and as for the AAS board karma...well...i can post someone elses opinion who has aready posted on that thread too



dude you made my point AAP has a PMs about people being bullied by indy if that is true AAP is on his ass. I just said I dont care about scamming that is specualtion but the bullying is TRUE.

You know when u have a dude you know but really dont know and he is getting drunk at the bar and grabs a dudes girls ass and gets punched in the face?? You run up there but the bottom line is he deserved it, that is what is going on in here, you talked to indy on the PM your not his BF or something yet the facts are on the table he has bullied people with RADAR just let it be

you are beating a dead horse, BTW I am not resorting to name calling we are adults here lets act it.
 
DieselGunz said:
dude you made my point AAP has a PMs about people being bullied by indy if that is true AAP is on his ass. I just said I dont care about scamming that is specualtion but the bullying is TRUE.

You know when u have a dude you know but really dont know and he is getting drunk at the bar and grabs a dudes girls ass and gets punched in the face?? You run up there but the bottom line is he deserved it, that is what is going on in here, you talked to indy on the PM your not his BF or something yet the facts are on the table he has bullied people with RADAR just let it be

you are beating a dead horse, BTW I am not resorting to name calling we are adults here lets act it.
dont feel bad dude..seems like every one he responds to is a "fucking retard"....when in reality he is making himself look crazy for sticking up for these guys the way he is...it is pathetic
 
indy69camaro said:
Be that as it may, the point is I am NOT the scammer here !! I am a victim of people I have helped alot in the past few weeks, let alone the last 2 years, jumping the gun cause I was friends with this this guy, WAS is the operative word.

I would like this childish lynching to come to an end, my own brothers turned against me, I find it pretty hard to swallow, and some of those I know best should know better. I am truely disappointed in what happened and hope it can go into the past so we may move on.


Truth hurts doesnt it. Keep sticking to your story all you want, I can probably speak for many, you two were involved someway or another.

Your the victim? LMAO.. Boo Hoo, are we hurting your feelings?? Call the f*cking Waaahbulance!
 
Triple J said:
you are right, but the question now was who was involved - and that is a good question to ask. where you stand on this issue depends on where you sit. if you take the perspective of another scammer you would say congrats for a job well done but if you were conned you have a different perspective. myself i saw all this coming and do not have any interest in this matter other than to wonder how did this whole thing spin so far out of control here - which basically gets to the heart of the matter, what everyone wants to know, who was involved and who was conned?

It really doesn't matter who was involved. It wasn't something that was going on for years. It just happened when Satch decided to get out of the game. I know because I have person experience with "the last days." I know that some people sent him money and he didn't have what they ordered. So he sent them a list, many days later, of what he had. They were able to order off of the new list and they recieved what they ordered.

So it wasn't some planned ripoff. Satch just wanted out and he had made a bunch of money so he kept what he had and is on some black sand beach drinking Mai Tais. I admire him. The idiots on this board that can't get over it just amaze me how stupid they are. People threatening indy's family!!! Talk about low lifes. Satch just kept some money and these scum bags threaten someones kids!!!! The people that are now talking about getting a hit man and trying to get someone to kill or maim Indy or his family are way more low life scum bags then Satch. These scum bags disgust me. And they think they are high and mighty righteous individuals. I think they are the lowest form of humans on this earth. Scumbags that threaten kids just piss me off. This is one of those times that I really dislike the internet. If one of these scumbags threaten someone's family when I'm there?? I would drown them in a fucking toilet.
 
The issue with Satch is Satch's business. We can sit here all year and guess what happened or what the truth is and never really know. There is nothing I can do about that for you guys regarding this. Sorry.

The issue with Indy and his relationship with Satch or his repuation or guilty/innocent is Indy's business. We can sit here and guess about the truth or whatever and probably never get it right. I honestly hope Indy isn't caught up in something that will come to bear ill and/or misfortune on him in the future. There is nothing I can do about for you guys regarding this. Sorry.

The issue about members being threatened with a banning is EliteFitness business. That is something I can do something about. I will be notifying George about this along with the rest of the mods too. I will do whatever I can for people here to get a fair shake.

I am closing this thread simply to get things calmed down again. If any of you have problems or concerns, please email me or PM me. That goes for you too Indy. I am not attacking you or passing judgement on you or any others on here. But I am going to gurantee that when I say fair is fair, I mean it is going to be fair for everyone across the board.
 
digdug said:
while its true that ive only been here a few months, RADAR has done nothing but help me. he has answered EVERY e-mail that i have ever sent him. so what if he put up false pics. ill bet he isn't the only one on elite who has done this :)
its funny, not long ago i was reading all the threads about how radar was the @#!# around here. i like to think that those posts were for his help not his pictures!
the fact remains that RADAR is a strong asset to this board and i for one dont want to loose his advice and knowledge!




I used that pic bcause it was my favorite and strongly resembled me to the ones i lost in a fire.
Hell i'll even post one just 3 weeks after getting out of the ICU ward just to suit anyone, and no gear even at 53

RADAR
 
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