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jh1 said:
In all seriousness...

I love animals. Love them.. more than humans most the time. I am completely against animal cruelty.

But I am not against using animals for food, to provide shelter, etc. I think that's natural. Sure the process seems mechanical and cruel at time. Hell, when i see the aligators grab a zebra and hear the poor zebra squeal like a rabbit, I have to close my eyes... it's horrifying - but it's reality.

I also don't want to see chicken or beef processing plants, or know all the details of how they were treated to get them to my plate. I know that's a bit of a head in the sand type tactic, but I can live with that. I have to eat, and I have to have shelter - any my metro ass isn't going out and shooting my food/shelter on my own (although I have shot 4 deer and numerous small animals back when I wasn't so gaye).

At the extreme there is the way certain types of food are brought to our plate - such as veal, foie gras, etc. I find some of that treatment deplorable - based on my understanding of it.

I eat veal when given the choice and really don't give the thought of the treatment a second thought, but it always crosses my mind. As far as foie gras - I don't have a taste for it -so it's not an issue.

I guess this is all a question of where you draw the line at the atrocities of our world and consumerism. I am not sure.

We can all ask the same quesitons about our clothing, TVs, etc. We all know that the comfort we live in, in this country, is only possible because of the systematic explotation of third world countries. We all know that somewhere there is a 8 y/o child chained to a steam pipe being whip'd and told to knit our damn sweater faster so that when winter comes around - InquisitivePsyche can be warm in her new 'Madonna' button up.

I guess it's just a matter of what tugs at your heart strings and what cause you decide to take on.

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I like your points. You are talking about Madonna LOL. She just adopted a kid from Malawai or something... believe me, she makes sure her clothes are not made by children in some sweat shop factory.

Either way- this is what I choose to fight for. I cannot fight for everything. That's why everyone needs to do their share and things will get better as they have been...

I am tired. Bed time. :)
 
jh1 said:
In all seriousness...

I love animals. Love them.. more than humans most the time. I am completely against animal cruelty.

But I am not against using animals for food, to provide shelter, etc. I think that's natural. Sure the process seems mechanical and cruel at time. Hell, when i see the aligators grab a zebra and hear the poor zebra squeal like a rabbit, I have to close my eyes... it's horrifying - but it's reality.

I also don't want to see chicken or beef processing plants, or know all the details of how they were treated to get them to my plate. I know that's a bit of a head in the sand type tactic, but I can live with that. I have to eat, and I have to have shelter - any my metro ass isn't going out and shooting my food/shelter on my own (although I have shot 4 deer and numerous small animals back when I wasn't so gaye).

At the extreme there is the way certain types of food are brought to our plate - such as veal, foie gras, etc. I find some of that treatment deplorable - based on my understanding of it.

I eat veal when given the choice and really don't give the thought of the treatment a second thought, but it always crosses my mind. As far as foie gras - I don't have a taste for it -so it's not an issue.

I guess this is all a question of where you draw the line at the atrocities of our world and consumerism. I am not sure.

We can all ask the same quesitons about our clothing, TVs, etc. We all know that the comfort we live in, in this country, is only possible because of the systematic explotation of third world countries. We all know that somewhere there is a 8 y/o child chained to a steam pipe being whip'd and told to knit our damn sweater faster so that when winter comes around - InquisitivePsyche can be warm in her new 'Madonna' button up.

I guess it's just a matter of what tugs at your heart strings and what cause you decide to take on.

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great post
 
SpyWizard said:
You are most welcome.. the younger generation has a chance to not be jaded, but with that opportunity comes great responsibility.. and we have no ability to influence the outcome..

good luck tomorrow..
Wed. :) On Wed. hehe.
 
blueta2 said:
Yeah I'm sure you swim unprotected with White Sharks. I need proof!
Have you contributed to changing the world or making it a better place?

You know, when a thread like this is made, come in a respect the poster for the dedication she has. Is she coming in here saying she is KILLING or stealing? No!
So respect the girls effort and wish her well. You don't have to like her, but respect her efforts!

Tell ya what...come on down to the Air Station...I'll give you a tour. We're at the western end of LAX, right before the El Segundo butterfly reserve. Feel free to shoot an email to my hushmail account and I'll give you my name and number. Then, we can set up time and date for you to come down and meet the guys. I'm not on here saying I'm a freakin' rockstar...I'm a broke-ass rescue swimmer. And yeah...there are PLENTY of White's out here. Have you ever been to Catalina or the Channel Islands? I thought not. Want proof? Come swimming with us. I don't dislike IP...I don't even know her. Furthermore, I think what she's doing is fine. But as far as doing my part to contribute...I think spending 6 weeks in New Orleans, pulling people out of flooded homes counts. So fuck you.
 
resqguy said:
Tell ya what...come on down to the Air Station...I'll give you a tour. We're at the western end of LAX, right before the El Segundo butterfly reserve. Feel free to shoot an email to my hushmail account and I'll give you my name and number. Then, we can set up time and date for you to come down and meet the guys. I'm not on here saying I'm a freakin' rockstar...I'm a broke-ass rescue swimmer. And yeah...there are PLENTY of White's out here. Have you ever been to Catalina or the Channel Islands? I thought not. Want proof? Come swimming with us. I don't dislike IP...I don't even know her. Furthermore, I think what she's doing is fine. But as far as doing my part to contribute...I think spending 6 weeks in New Orleans, pulling people out of flooded homes counts. So fuck you.


so there ya go. You're doing good. Now if u started a thread about how you helped the folks in NO and everyone came in and bashed ya, you would not take too kindly either.
I live up in Canada and have never been to CA, but if I ever get there, I will expect you to let me swim with the sharks.
By the way, since u work with the sharks, I am sure you have respect for them..........just saying
 
blueta2 said:
so there ya go. You're doing good. Now if u started a thread about how you helped the folks in NO and everyone came in and bashed ya, you would not take too kindly either.
I live up in Canada and have never been to CA, but if I ever get there, I will expect you to let me swim with the sharks.
By the way, since u work with the sharks, I am sure you have respect for them..........just saying

At no time did I bash anyone. Granted, I sarcastically poked a little, but with no intended malice. However, you can't compare helping victim's of Katrina with saving a fattened fuckin' goose...sorry. I'm not going to go out and start stomping on puppies heads', or butt-fuck a kitten, but I don't give a rat's ass about PETA or force-fed geese. Sorry, but I like to eat animals and I don't question the means by which they're presented to me. And yes...I have TREMENDOUS respect for sharks, and you can swim with them all you want. In fact, we have a special "meat-suit" you can wear...
 
resqguy said:
At no time did I bash anyone. Granted, I sarcastically poked a little, but with no intended malice. However, you can't compare helping victim's of Katrina with saving a fattened fuckin' goose...sorry. I'm not going to go out and start stomping on puppies heads', or butt-fuck a kitten, but I don't give a rat's ass about PETA or force-fed geese. Sorry, but I like to eat animals and I don't question the means by which they're presented to me. And yes...I have TREMENDOUS respect for sharks, and you can swim with them all you want. In fact, we have a special "meat-suit" you can wear...

I look fat in meat suits, is there something more slimming I can wear?

You don't have to give a rats ass about PETA or animals, but you should respect those that do.
And yes, I am a die hard animal lover so I do compare saving humans to saving animals. I respect ALL life!
 
blueta2 said:
I look fat in meat suits, is there something more slimming I can wear?

You don't have to give a rats ass about PETA or animals, but you should respect those that do.
And yes, I am a die hard animal lover so I do compare saving humans to saving animals. I respect ALL life!

You can wear the meat-thong, but it's still a prototype.

I think it's great that you can compare saving a human life to saving an animals' life. But again, I think that viewpoint is skewed...agree to disagree. I love animals too, though...they're delicious.
 
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