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InquisitivePsyche said:
So you choose to fight for them and I will continue with my efforts. Don't put another persons will to fight for what THEY believe in.. go feed those children... I (as well as my family) try to help many causes. I choose animal rights for this specific event. And people will say that ok, 15 million children are starving but millions more are dying from aids.. so fight for them and not the kids.. I mean come on.. where would it end?


oops. .i posted at the same time as you.. read above..
 
SpyWizard said:
oops. .i posted at the same time as you.. read above..
I saw, thanks. :) See now this kind of reaction is what I would consider a mature/respectful reaction. All too often, people don't fight for anything ....

You may believe in something else but you aren't putting what I believe down.

Thank you.
 
In all seriousness...

I love animals. Love them.. more than humans most the time. I am completely against animal cruelty.

But I am not against using animals for food, to provide shelter, etc. I think that's natural. Sure the process seems mechanical and cruel at time. Hell, when i see the aligators grab a zebra and hear the poor zebra squeal like a rabbit, I have to close my eyes... it's horrifying - but it's reality.

I also don't want to see chicken or beef processing plants, or know all the details of how they were treated to get them to my plate. I know that's a bit of a head in the sand type tactic, but I can live with that. I have to eat, and I have to have shelter - any my metro ass isn't going out and shooting my food/shelter on my own (although I have shot 4 deer and numerous small animals back when I wasn't so gaye).

At the extreme there is the way certain types of food are brought to our plate - such as veal, foie gras, etc. I find some of that treatment deplorable - based on my understanding of it.

I eat veal when given the choice and really don't give the thought of the treatment a second thought, but it always crosses my mind. As far as foie gras - I don't have a taste for it -so it's not an issue.

I guess this is all a question of where you draw the line at the atrocities of our world and consumerism. I am not sure.

We can all ask the same quesitons about our clothing, TVs, etc. We all know that the comfort we live in, in this country, is only possible because of the systematic explotation of third world countries. We all know that somewhere there is a 8 y/o child chained to a steam pipe being whip'd and told to knit our damn sweater faster so that when winter comes around - InquisitivePsyche can be warm in her new 'Madonna' button up.

I guess it's just a matter of what tugs at your heart strings and what cause you decide to take on.

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resqguy said:
Just because you're sensitive doesn't mean I'm nasty...sorry, Princess. And I didn't say you were a tree-hugging activist, I said save your tree-hugging rhetoric for people who give a shit about ducks...or geese...whatever. I applaud your conviction, but I think it's misdirected. Good for you, though. Good luck with your goose saving. Meanwhile, I'll continue to risk my own life, almost daily, to save another humans. Oh, and Blueta2...shark-infested waters are part of my job, and I'm holding my own...thanks.


Yeah I'm sure you swim unprotected with White Sharks. I need proof!
Have you contributed to changing the world or making it a better place?

You know, when a thread like this is made, come in and respect the poster for the dedication she has. Is she coming in here saying she is KILLING or stealing? No!
So respect the girls effort and wish her well. You don't have to like her, but respect her efforts!
 
resqguy said:
Oh, I don't know...the fact that I risk my life to save others is pretty noble, I think...
That is awesome. But most people are not like you. Most wouldn't do that. And that's great that you save lives... I am not putting that down... so don't put down my efforts.
 
SpyWizard said:
Every year 15 million children die of hunger

this is one of the reasons animal rights is meaningless...

it's a part of society, the real issues of the world.. death to humans because we in the USA can grow more food than we can possible consume, our gov even pays farmers to not plant crops.. and every year..


15 million children die from hunger..

vs..

Birds being overfeed as a food source.. hmmm...

http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm
children die of hunger because women are poorly treated, because women are not given contraceptive methods, because womens right to abortion is non-existing in some countries. In those countries where there is the most hungry children, those are the ones with hardly any human rights for females and kids. Give those women the right to choose when to get pregnant and watch the control of population come back in track.

btw, I do donate money for babies and children, I am not heartless
 
SpyWizard said:
I'm glad you are passionate about something.. anything.. don't let me or anyone else try to sway you...

Pick something.. believe in something.. do something.. don't become callous to those that are not able to help themselves..

Thanks for caring enough to give of yourself..


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InquisitivePsyche said:
There are endless possibilities, I think. It's just a matter of finding them and I believe, we slowly are. Many things have gotten better in the whole "animal rights," department.. its just still a long way from adequate.

Hopefully we will find a way. I know they just banned horseslaughter here. :)
horse slaughter? For what? Do they eat them?
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
I saw, thanks. :) See now this kind of reaction is what I would consider a mature/respectful reaction. All too often, people don't fight for anything ....

You may believe in something else but you aren't putting what I believe down.

Thank you.


You are most welcome.. the younger generation has a chance to not be jaded, but with that opportunity comes great responsibility.. and we have no ability to influence the outcome..

good luck tomorrow..
 
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