Everybody Here SUCKS!

[Ross]

Some pretty funny posts!

First of all, the title of the thread is meant to be an ironic joke. The fact that Ross thinks I'm insulting the members is either a tactic to get attention (once again) or a complete lack of humor. I'd say everyone else "got it."

I won't address the attack on my credentials and experience. I've been in the game longer than you've been alive Ross so I'll just chalk that up to immaturity on your part and let it go at that. Even a gnat can be annoying. It doesn't make him important.

Secondly, is everyone as tired as I am of his three page
pseudo studies of ingredients proven to be non effective?

As for DBBT, what are you so angry at bro? Do you think that attacking my supplements (which have been proven effective) is the way to make a good argument about the use of steroids for cutting? Maybe you can't cut without steroids, but that doesn't mean it can't be done, if you know what you're doing.

Bottom line...it is not the BEST use of them IMO. Disagree? Fine. Let's hear why.

And as far as everybody else who don't want to get TOO big...what the fuck does that mean? What are you doing on a steroid forum? You think it's easy to grow? Are you afraid you're going to wake up one morning and be TOO big?

I'm no mass monster and have no desire to be 300 pounds, but when I used gear it was to get bigger once I tapped out my natural limit. If you have no interest in getting bigger, why use steroids? (Okay, if you're Roger Clemens, I understand it. Are you?)

So yeah, it's time for some humility. None of us is Jay Cutler. It's a joke when people construct cycles like they're entering the Olympia when they can make better gains with better training and diet if they actually learned how.

*Steroids are used to either build muscle mass and strength, or to reduce bodyfat while preserving muscle and increasing definition.

Nelson, your advice is horrible. You are actually telling bodybuilders to reduce their calories and increase cardio WITHOUT using any ANABOLIC STEROIDS, are you insane?

I don't care if you are a COMPLETE NOVICE with only 1 or 2 cycles under your belt, you should NEVER reduce your calories and increase cardio in an all-natural state, you are begging to lose everything you accomplished while ON CYCLE.

 

[steelmass]

I wouldn't step on the stage without AAS
I wouldn't step on the stage in bulking phase
Therefore, I must run cutters

Its pretty simple Nelson

 

[1999TL]

How many cycles have you ran?

Actually, none. But I plan on running Primo 400 mg/week 1-10, and 30 mg's dbol week 1-4. It was that or 250 test E/10 weeks, but I decided on the primo first. Next cycle Ill add the test + primo.

I meant that I like his views on not needing to use GH, insulin, DNP, and whatever else when there are safer drugs. I will be going the "safer" route

 

[khemix]

Glad to know I don't suck .

I've never ran a cutter before in my life. I use steroids to GROW!!!

to you nelly

 

[khemix]

And here comes Ross to start the drama...

 

[steelmass]

Much better first cycle 1999TL

500 Test 1-8
30mg Dbol 1-4
30mg Winstrol 9-10
PCT 11-14

Winstrol 9-10 is to let esters clear while staying as anabolic as possible

 

[dabuffguy]

Some pretty funny posts!

First of all, the title of the thread is meant to be an ironic joke. The fact that Ross thinks I'm insulting the members is either a tactic to get attention (once again) or a complete lack of humor. I'd say everyone else "got it."

I won't address the attack on my credentials and experience. I've been in the game longer than you've been alive Ross so I'll just chalk that up to immaturity on your part and let it go at that. Even a gnat can be annoying. It doesn't make him important.

Secondly, is everyone as tired as I am of his three page
pseudo studies of ingredients proven to be non effective?

As for DBBT, what are you so angry at bro? Do you think that attacking my supplements (which have been proven effective) is the way to make a good argument about the use of steroids for cutting? Maybe you can't cut without steroids, but that doesn't mean it can't be done, if you know what you're doing.

Bottom line...it is not the BEST use of them IMO. Disagree? Fine. Let's hear why.

And as far as everybody else who don't want to get TOO big...what the fuck does that mean? What are you doing on a steroid forum? You think it's easy to grow? Are you afraid you're going to wake up one morning and be TOO big?

I'm no mass monster and have no desire to be 300 pounds, but when I used gear it was to get bigger once I tapped out my natural limit. If you have no interest in getting bigger, why use steroids? (Okay, if you're Roger Clemens, I understand it. Are you?)

So yeah, it's time for some humility. None of us is Jay Cutler. It's a joke when people construct cycles like they're entering the Olympia when they can make better gains with better training and diet if they actually learned how.

The "BEST" use of gear is completely subjective on all levels. Stating that one way is better than another is ridiculous. It all depends on what you want to achieve.


I, for one, like the mass monster idea, but not freakishly big like the Mr'O competitors. I also like to stay lean.

The "cutter" mentality fits lots of people personal agendas for what they want to acheive. So, saying it's a watse of gear and not the best way is completely wrong for A LOT of people.

just cuz you like it one way, doesn't make it right for everyone.

and, yes, you hopped on the soap box here with nothing to really achieve other than expres your opinion of cuting on gear. Congratulations, you don't like it that way. Many people do, and it works for them, and they are satisfied. How can you argue with satisfaction?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, your advice is horrible. You are actually telling bodybuilders to reduce their calories and increase cardio WITHOUT using any ANABOLIC STEROIDS, are you insane?

I never said to increase cardio Ross, in fact I said the opposite. If you're going to attack a position, find out what it is first.

As for steelmass. That's fine bro. You're doing it for competitive purposes -- to peak for a day. That's not the approach of 99% of the people who use "cutters."

 

[1999TL]

I wouldn't step on the stage without AAS
I wouldn't step on the stage in bulking phase
Therefore, I must run cutters

Its pretty simple Nelson

I was going to agree with this for competition, but Nelson has already chimed in.

As for a first cycle, if I chose test, it would most likely be at 250 mg/week. I posted a picture in the pictures forum to see if I'm ready for steroids. That forum doesn't really get views like this one though.

 

[*The_West*]

i would be more inclined to take advice from ross, i have seen pictures of him and he has an amazing physique. literally, he looks awesome. huge, well proportioned muscles, low bf, crazy vascularity. you dont get like that without knowing what you are doing.