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[*The_West*]

i half agree with ross and nelson, if thats possible. i personally dont see the need to cut using aas. it is perfectly do able with correct diet, cardio and for some, thermogenics. as a non competitive bodybuilder i see this as the best route as you shoudlnt be using drugs that you can do without. however, i agree with what ross said, as it is true, that cutting cals to the point of deficit and doing cardio you will lose some muscle, and if you are a competitive bodybuilder this is not acceptable, so yes in that case i understand the need to utilise some kind of cycle to retain mass.

 

[Ross]

i half agree with ross and nelson, if thats possible. i personally dont see the need to cut using aas. it is perfectly do able with correct diet, cardio and for some, thermogenics. as a non competitive bodybuilder i see this as the best route as you shoudlnt be using drugs that you can do without. however, i agree with what ross said, as it is true, that cutting cals to the point of deficit and doing cardio you will lose some muscle, and if you are a competitive bodybuilder this is not acceptable, so yes in that case i understand the need to utilise some kind of cycle to retain mass.

Steroids are either used in a CALORIE SURPLUS to gain muscle mass, or they are used in a CALORIE DEFECIT to PRESERVE muscle mass while REDUCING BODYFAT. Plain and simple.

If you ATTEMPT to reduce bodyfat in an all-natural state, you will NOT be happy 8 weeks later.

 

[dabuffguy]

You don't. Steroids are either used in a CALORIE SURPLUS to gain muscle mass, or they are used in a CALORIE DEFECIT to PRESERVE muscle mass while REDUCING BODYFAT.

preserving the mass works, because AAS will make food more efficent, making less calories necessary to maintain a certain weight.

That's one of the plusses to juicing cattle. The feed is more efficent and so they can give them less feed, making a leaner animal while keeping the weight up.


You will not keep al your muscle in calorie defecit, but you will keep 99% of it. you will definitley lose a lot more mass while cutting without juice. A cutter cycle works. It's a good idea.

 

[Big_BK]

You don't. Steroids are either used in a CALORIE SURPLUS to gain muscle mass, or they are used in a CALORIE DEFECIT to PRESERVE muscle mass while REDUCING BODYFAT.

Exactly, so why did you say other wise?

 

[blackthunder]

Ross reminds me of this http://youtube.com/watch?v=4JMOh-cul6M

 

[Ross]

Exactly, so why did you say other wise?

What are you talking about bro? I can tell you are bad news...

 

[Greatercow]

IMO people are aguing over the definition of the word cutting cycle ..

for some CUTTING CYCLE means : some moderate to low dosage of test to help keep the muscle mass while on a calorie deficit state

for others it means that some specifically designed steroid could help them lose body and therefore stack 1 or 2 with those benefit in a stack and call it a CUTTING CYCLE .now you all cant argue that some steroid do help with the fatloss (tren , var ) altough its not their primary objective they do help just my .02

 

[Ross]

preserving the mass works, because AAS will make food more efficent, making less calories necessary to maintain a certain weight.

That's one of the plusses to juicing cattle. The feed is more efficent and so they can give them less feed, making a leaner animal while keeping the weight up.


You will not keep al your muscle in calorie defecit, but you will keep 99% of it. you will definitley lose a lot more mass while cutting without juice. A cutter cycle works. It's a good idea.

Great post!

 

[Nelson Montana]

You know what else is funny? When people use the argument that cutters work because they don't want to get TOO big. Well, use LOWER DOSAGES!

And as far a s"feeling" supplements, well, naturally you're going to "feel" a central nervous stimulant! I don't make a CNS product. But the results of supps like UNLEASHED, VIGOR, BIG BLAST, ZIP etc and certainly be SEEN after a few weeks.

AND BTW: Cattle isn't bred to be muscular. They're bred to be fat.

 

[Greatercow]

You know what else is funny? When people use the argument that cutters work because they don't want to get TOO big. Well, use LOWER DOSAGES!

And as far a s"feeling" supplements, well, naturally you're going to "feel" a central nervous stimulant! I don't make a CNS product. But the results of supps like UNLEASHED, VIGOR, BIG BLAST, ZIP etc and certainly be SEEN after a few weeks.

now with that i have to agree people saying they dont want to get too big ... like this shit works overnight ...