Everybody Here SUCKS!

[aquatic_glories]

Arnold was full of lies. If he was only using for cutting and gaining mass naturally, that means he wasnt over his genetic limits at the contests ROFL
so maybe he should have competed at 320 pounds if he juiced while gaining mass

 

[Tatyana]

Try entering a calorie defecit and performing increased cardio while NOT ANY ANABOLIC STEROIDS; you will LOSE MUSCLE, plain and simple.

When I am dropping bodyfat, my cutting cycles consist of a minimum dosage of testosterone(200-300mgs) in conjunction with a secondary anabolic such as Primobolan or Masteron, and perhaps an oral to facilitate hardness and vascularity, such as Anavar or Winstrol.

Furthermore, certain steroids DRASTICALLY INCREASE MUSCLE HARDNESS(Masteron, Tren, Winstrol, Anavar, Halotestin), so these steroids are best utilized while the bodyfat percentage is low, so these effects can be seen.

However, I do agree with you Nelson that the primary purpose of Anabolic Steroids is to BUILD MUSCLE MASS, and guys trying to "CUT" for their first cycle or "lean bulk" without having sufficient mass is just ridiculous.

LOLOLOLOLO, insulin is the most anabolic hormone in the body, and any good competive nattie knows how to manipulate insulin and GH naturally so that this doesn't happen.

 

[needtogetaas]

I would like to point out to some of you that we have a standard on ef now. I will not allow this standard to fall. We do not fight and act like kids. We do not call people names or give them the finger here on the aas board.

Like it or not you will abide by this standard or we will show you the door.

 

[gjohnson5]

Because if he has only run 1 cycle and weighs under 180lbs, then NO, he does not need AAS to CUT, because he is not a STEROID USER.

A STEROID USER is someone who has ran MULTIPLE cycles and has reached a superior level of physical development, typically weighing over 200lbs at 10% bodyfat, and being able to Bench Press at least 275-315lbs 6-8 times.

So, if you are NOT over 200lbs at 10%BF and you can NOT Bench Press at least 275lbs, then you do NOT NEED AAS to CUT.

The part bold is impossible natty as well?

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

LOLOLOLOLO, insulin is the most anabolic hormone in the body, and any good competive nattie knows how to manipulate insulin and GH naturally so that this doesn't happen.

el lolio @ that. You're still going to lose some muscle, plain and simple.

 

[gjohnson5]

el lolio @ that. You're still going to lose some muscle, plain and simple.

The problem I have is that we're replacing diet and cardio with drug use
And we're basically saying achieving goals is impossible natty. Well that what Ross says...

I disagree with both his scenarios that "significant muscle will be lost" dieting and "someone cannot bench be 200lb @10% and bench 275" I would say that lkeeping muscle mass while dieting is very hard. Bench 275 @ 200lb 10% is somewhat difficuly. But muscle mass losses can be minimized with the protocols I've mentioned before.

1. Slower digesting proteins and complex carbohydrates to keep some insulin elevation in the blood for extended periods
2, High protein and high fiber to feed muscle and help the proteins digest
3. Clean nutrient dense calories and say 200 calories below Basal Metabolic Rate otherwise
4. Cardio @ the 65% VO2MAX level to at most 90 minutes has shown in studies to maximize fat loss while not negatively affecting muscle mass.

I guess what I was trying to say is that cardio does not have to be destructive. We should not be sending the message that we can simply ignore diet and cardio and let drugs do all the work. The drugs should be used after you have mastered the 2 and have reached your natural potential

 

[Donnie Darko]

Some people can stay somewhat lean while bulking. It may not be near contest lean, but by no means Lee Priest going nuts on a pizza buffet either.

 

[OMEGA]

Im a big boy and not very pretty but can destroy 99.9999% of humans

 

[gjohnson5]

Im a big boy and not very pretty but can destroy 99.9999% of humans

pretty ugly?

 

[gjohnson5]

Gues that why it's called StanozoLOL