Everybody Here SUCKS!

[Ross]

We do not speak to each other like this on this site ross. I don't give a fucking rats ass who the fuck you think you are. Have some respect when you talk to people on this site. I am not going to say it again.

O welcome back.

Hey sexy! You know it turns me on when you talk naughty like that to me..

Hahahha good to be back bro, sorry for coming off so rude, I can get extremely PASSIONATE at times..

Glad you're still running shit my good man.

 

[*The_West*]

so come on ross, when are you going to post up some pics of you doing all the standard competition poses? im sure i remember someone asking you when you posted your last lot of pics and you agreed!

 

[needtogetaas]

Hey sexy! You know it turns me on when you talk naughty like that to me..

Hahahha good to be back bro, sorry for coming off so rude, I can get extremely PASSIONATE at times..

Glad you're still running shit my good man.

Its cool bro. I am doing good. How was your 4th?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yes I agree with Nelson's original statement. After all we are meant to be BodyBUILDERS after all. I also agree with others that suggest there is no one fix for all. My belief is that if your continually strive to increase overall body mass, the increased muscle mass eventually becomes your "fat burner". What I think happens on forums is that there is a general belief that AAS is necessary to both increase overall body mass & increase lean muscle mass.Those that have been using gear for a while soon find out that its only part of the equation & a relatively small part at that.

Exactly.

 

[Nelson Montana]

ONE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER...

What guys don;t realize is that steroids provide a look -- a fullness, density and vascularity, that has nothing to do with weight gain. If you stop using these drugs and try to lose weight, sure, you're going to look like you're shrinking. BUT THAT IS NOT CATABOLISM!!! It's simply the act of losing weight without being on steroids.

It isn't that the steroids are preventing muscle loss. You just have less of "the look" without them.

So again, it's more a vanity issue than anything else. Gear while cutting looks better than no gear while cutting. But the gear isn't really putting on much muscle.

Bottom line. If you use steroids to cut, then go off. In a month you'll look the same as if you cut without them. However, if you GAIN muscle while on, two months after you're off, you'll still have more muscle than when you started.

 

[gjohnson5]

Try entering a calorie defecit and performing increased cardio while NOT ANY ANABOLIC STEROIDS; you will LOSE MUSCLE, plain and simple.

it depends on how clean the calories were to begin with. With properly timed and partitions nutrients you can keep muscle while dieting

 

[aquatic_glories]

ONE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER...



Bottom line. If you use steroids to cut, then go off. In a month you'll look the same as if you cut without them. However, if you GAIN muscle while on, two months after you're off, you'll still have more muscle than when you started.

what exactly did you mean in here??? Of course we are gonna have more muscle then when we started. We can train naturally at that time and have more muscle than we started.
Do you mean much more muscle??? Or if you mean otherwise, why should we lose muscle??

thanks

 

[Ross]

ONE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER...

What guys don;t realize is that steroids provide a look -- a fullness, density and vascularity, that has nothing to do with weight gain. If you stop using these drugs and try to lose weight, sure, you're going to look like you're shrinking. BUT THAT IS NOT CATABOLISM!!! It's simply the act of losing weight without being on steroids.

It isn't that the steroids are preventing muscle loss. You just have less of "the look" without them.

So again, it's more a vanity issue than anything else. Gear while cutting looks better than no gear while cutting. But the gear isn't really putting on much muscle.

Bottom line. If you use steroids to cut, then go off. In a month you'll look the same as if you cut without them. However, if you GAIN muscle while on, two months after you're off, you'll still have more muscle than when you started.

Not only do Anabolic Steroids produce a "look" which is extremely dense, hard, striated and vascular, they also PRESERVE muscle mass while DIETING!

If I even attempted to reduce my calories and incorporate cardiovascular activity in to my regimen without the use of anabolic steroids, I would lose a SIGNIFICANT amount of lean muscle tissue; I have done it before, and I am NOT willing to do it again.

Your body can barely maintain it's own muscle mass even when BULKING in a NATURAL state, and you think you can actually maintain your muscle mass while CUTTING in a natural state? You have no experience my man, plain and simple, just callling a spade a spade, not being combative.

 

[gjohnson5]

Because you do not know how to diet
Fix the diet and the problem would be fixed

 

[KnockedOutFAST]

People didnt always rely on drugs, bro. You CAN keep a lot of muscle (you will always lose some) while cutting it just takes longer and more work than if you were on steroids. Steroids get you there faster, obviously, but i dont think they are needed UNLESS you are going to do a show or if you are as big as you want to get, and dont want to gain more weight, just want to get rid of any excess BF and water.