ESTROGEN 101 Before you use anything, read this.

[Nelson Montana]

I refuse to believe a word of it based solely on the fact you plugged two products, one of which has been out only a month, and you've never used. Therefore to me your credibility means nothing.

You're wrong. But before I address that, let me say this.

I hate it when somebody feels the need to attack someone for their opinion. You can take it, leave it, discuss it, debate it. But when you try and make an argument over little bullshit it just reeks of teenage message board jerk off.

Okay, enough of that.

The product that isn't out is by Anthony who one, I trust, and two, I've used the ingredients, and three, I've worked for the company and know they put out the best quality so I'd recommend it. That was the basis for my opinion. Want to use a different brand? Be my guest.

As for Dermacrine, all I said was that it contained chyrsin and the transdermal deliverery is a way to improve the absorbtion. Personally I'm not a big fan of transdermals but I've heard good things about it and gave them a nod. You're going to break my balls about mentioning a good product on which I don't make any money? That's just idiotic.

I don't worry about how my credibility translates to some stranger on a message board. I'm just saying what I've learned from experiences in the real world, just like a lot of the vets on this board.

Meanwhile, others speak from what they've read from posts by guys who live with their mothers.

I'm not saying I have all the answers. No one does. But this is some basic infomation that, if taken, will do a lot of good and avoid a lot of bad. But that's not good enough for some people so they have to throw a tantrum and piss all over it. Ugh.

 

[medical]

You're wrong. But before I address that, let me say this.

I hate it when somebody feels the need to attack someone for their opinion. You can take it, leave it, discuss it, debate it. But when you try and make an argument over little bullshit it just reeks of teenage message board jerk off.

Okay, enough of that.

The product that isn't out is by Anthony who one, I trust, and two, I've used the ingredients, and three, I've worked for the company and know they put out the best quality so I'd recommend it. That was the basis for my opinion. Want to use a different brand? Be my guest.

As for Dermacrine, all I said was that it contained chyrsin and the transdermal deliverery is a way to improve the absorbtion. Personally I'm not a big fan of transdermals but I've heard good things about it and gave them a nod. You're going to break my balls about mentioning a good product on which I don't make any money? That's just idiotic.

I don't worry about how my credibility translates to some stranger on a message board. I'm just saying what I've learned from experiences in the real world, just like a lot of the vets on this board.

Meanwhile, others speak from what they've read from posts by guys who live with their mothers.

I'm not saying I have all the answers. No one does. But this is some basic infomation that, if taken, will do a lot of good and avoid a lot of bad. But that's not good enough for some people so they have to throw a tantrum and piss all over it. Ugh.

I'll agree with one thing here......you don't have all the answers. You appere to have very few of the E answers and don't really even address the proper questions. But that's just my uninformed opinion.

 

[jh1]

NM is a good bro in my book.

 

[jamesG]

Pro-hormones. The people who make this stuff should be in jail. Oh, wait a minute...they are.

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who exactly are you referring to? because the only person in jail is patrick arnold and that was not for prohormones but for selling THG and DMT which are steroids.

get your facts straight.

 

[jamesG]

you also reccomended dermacrine a product that uses prohormones. DHEA, pregnenolone, 7-keto dhea are all prohormones.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

NM is a good bro in my book.

lol @ your signature...




Dude...

 

[Nelson Montana]

you also reccomended dermacrine a product that uses prohormones. DHEA, pregnenolone, 7-keto dhea are all prohormones.

Dhea and 7keto, true, technically. And I think 7 keto has merit but not cocerning estrogen. Not a big fan of DHEA though. I was refering more to the chemical concoctions that are essentially lousy drugs ala' Patricks original pro-hormone which was rejected by the pharmaceutical companies. Pat changed a molecule, put it in an even less effective oral form and got it under the wire of being a "supplement" and thought he was a genius for doing so. It went about giving a generation of bodybuilders bitch tits. Great invention.


jh1: Your sig MADE MY DAY. Now THAT is something of value.






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[JeremyD]

So, since you're clearly against clomid and nolva (Can't say i'm a fan of clmoid either), what would YOU recommend for the ideal post cycle protocol?

 

[needtogetaas]

You're wrong. But before I address that, let me say this.

I hate it when somebody feels the need to attack someone for their opinion. You can take it, leave it, discuss it, debate it. But when you try and make an argument over little bullshit it just reeks of teenage message board jerk off.

Okay, enough of that.

The product that isn't out is by Anthony who one, I trust, and two, I've used the ingredients, and three, I've worked for the company and know they put out the best quality so I'd recommend it. That was the basis for my opinion. Want to use a different brand? Be my guest.

As for Dermacrine, all I said was that it contained chyrsin and the transdermal deliverery is a way to improve the absorbtion. Personally I'm not a big fan of transdermals but I've heard good things about it and gave them a nod. You're going to break my balls about mentioning a good product on which I don't make any money? That's just idiotic.

I don't worry about how my credibility translates to some stranger on a message board. I'm just saying what I've learned from experiences in the real world, just like a lot of the vets on this board.

Meanwhile, others speak from what they've read from posts by guys who live with their mothers.

I'm not saying I have all the answers. No one does. But this is some basic infomation that, if taken, will do a lot of good and avoid a lot of bad. But that's not good enough for some people so they have to throw a tantrum and piss all over it. Ugh.

good post.

 

[odoyal rulez]

therss no tough guy teenage message board warrior here, Im just stating facts man. Dont get your panties in a bunch. When you came back, a lot of people that people look up to, endorsed and welcomed you. ergo, please dont start plugging shit you havent used, that makes you look bad, them look bad, and the product look bad.

We all know Demacrine is the next big thing, and a lot of us will prolly buy it and make our own findings...but its been out for a month, give it a rest already.