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Yohimbine HCL does NOT agree with me. I don't know why. I tried it twice, over a year apart, and experienced the same effects. Like, umm... not sure how to explain it. Not sick per se, yet still nausious. More of a I-just-injested-a-poison-and-feel-like-shit kinda anxiety... it really screwed with my mentality or sense of well-being more than the physical I-feel-like-shit kinda thing.

My mind associates yohimbine HCL with rat poison. I won't go near it. I could never figure out why I had those effects from it, though.
 
samoth said:
Yohimbine HCL does NOT agree with me. I don't know why. I tried it twice, over a year apart, and experienced the same effects. Like, umm... not sure how to explain it. Not sick per se, yet still nausious. More of a I-just-injested-a-poison-and-feel-like-shit kinda anxiety... it really screwed with my mentality or sense of well-being more than the physical I-feel-like-shit kinda thing.

My mind associates yohimbine HCL with rat poison. I won't go near it. I could never figure out why I had those effects from it, though.

I have a buddy who gets that way when taking yohimbine. It would be interesting to know why.

And shadow, why do you say no oral yohimbine products? There use to be a load of ECAY stacked products on the market...so i'm just curious why you say not to stack oral yohimbine (and for that matter, why would it matter oral vs transdermal)
 
Mikus said:
I have a buddy who gets that way when taking yohimbine. It would be interesting to know why.

And shadow, why do you say no oral yohimbine products? There use to be a load of ECAY stacked products on the market...so i'm just curious why you say not to stack oral yohimbine (and for that matter, why would it matter oral vs transdermal)

Key phrase is "used to be"......

Transdermal is preferable as you get a response form a much lower dose...the effective oral dose makes a lot of folks sick to their stomach and makes your skin feel like its literally crawling.


NYC stacks were "good" as well......again - they are off the market for a reason
 
The Shadow said:
Key phrase is "used to be"......

Transdermal is preferable as you get a response form a much lower dose...the effective oral dose makes a lot of folks sick to their stomach and makes your skin feel like its literally crawling.


NYC stacks were "good" as well......again - they are off the market for a reason


hmm..i usually take about 5mg orally and it does me well...i'm lucky though in that it doesn't make me sick. thanks for the transdermal info, whats the dose for transdermal?
 
I take Yohimbe extract at 500mg a capsule...

Yohimbe seemed to be the magic ingrediant in my eca stack. Really helped with the loss.
But it makes my girl get jittery, hot/cold, shakey, and somewhat nausea, i guess everyone is different.

But the best stack i have ever ever ever had had to be
Caffeine, Aspirin, Bioprene, Yohimbine HCL, Coleus Forskohili, and Citrus Aurantium
Melted Fat off me.
 
samoth said:
Is there a reason you wanted ephedra over ephedrine HCL? I've never known anyone to like ephedra, really. All of my friends and I from back home felt that ephedra had (comparatively) significantly diminished effects compared to ephedrine.

And Shadow's "homemade" ECA stack is the best, and CHEAPEST!! And to argue whomever said aspirin isn't neccessary, do some more research. Aspirin's effects on the 'blood', so to speak, has an impact on more drugs than it doesn't have an impact on. Nothing to do with the whole 'synergism in ECA' aspect, mind you. The extent to which the sought-after effects of ephedrine are effected is debatable, but nonetheless...

HTH

You can also use a baby asprin with your first dose of the day to get the synergistic effect. That way you don't rip your stomach up by taking 3 asprins a day.
 
The Bigdawg said:
yea you can buy pure ephedrine HCL here, its not illegal as long as it is sold in 8mg tabs, so you now have to take 3 tabs instead of one.

The fat burners themselves dont' have ephedrine or ephedra in them anymore unless you know the owners of supp stores who usually have them under the counter for well known customers.

I saw an ad in a BB mag for ONE product with ephedra in it, and the ad read blah, blah, blah, ephedra legal again.
 
The Bigdawg said:
FYI you don't need the aspirin, studies showed that it had no added effect.

I just use Ephedrine HCL and Caffeine and get the same effects as I did when I used aspirin.

From what I understood, the aspirin extended the half-life of the ephedrine.
 
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