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A friend of mine keeps going out at the weekends and taking E against my advice to him I cannot live his life for him but surely this is gonna mess him up one way or another.

Is there anyone here who can tell me the dangers of this so I can tell him.

Is this shit going to kill him?

Any replies are apreciated but no jokes please this is serious.
 
General-K said:
A friend of mine keeps going out at the weekends and taking E against my advice to him I cannot live his life for him but surely this is gonna mess him up one way or another.

Is there anyone here who can tell me the dangers of this so I can tell him.

Is this shit going to kill him?

Any replies are apreciated but no jokes please this is serious.
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Yes.
 
HMm it can mess up your recpetors forever

The stuff that is in E is different for each pill because no two pills are alike but it affects your sereton levels and you can ask anyone who has used it for an extended period of time.. it definatley throws them off and the effects don't go away over night, if ever
 
Also some people start off with E and move on to coke.. and then.. etc...
 
Lady Viking said:
Yes.
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Let's not be overzealous here. Can it kill him? Sure. But I don't think any of us has the data to provide here showing the percentages of people who take E and die vs. those that don't. I have done it several times in my day and I am a very healthy individual. That being said, like all drugs, of course it is dangerous and bad for you.
 
Like Killer says anything has the potential to kill.

but E has a fun side to.. hate to say it but yup.. sure does.. anything in moderation..

I have known people who have taken quite a few in one nite and still live to tell it.
 
CanadianCutie said:
Like Killer says anything has the potential to kill.

but E has a fun side to.. hate to say it but yup.. sure does.. anything in moderation..

I have known people who have taken quite a few in one nite and still live to tell it.
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yep. as I have said in other threads, I am a living, breathing example that someone can do pretty heavy amounts of various drugs and still live a healthy, successful life (afterwards).
 
U have no idea :verygood:
KillahBee said:
yep. as I have said in other threads, I am a living, breathing example that someone can do pretty heavy amounts of various drugs and still live a healthy, successful life (afterwards).
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As long as he does it in moderation he will most likely be fine. The problem with E is that is drains your seretonin levels. If you do too much in a short period of time, you are basically out of seretonin and that can take up to two weeks or more for your brain to create more. Without this chemical, you basically are out of "happy", so depression sets in. Also, like someone else stated, you can "burn out" your receptors over time. Every weekend is a little much IMO, but once a month or so and you should be okay. Hit up some 5-HTP and you are good to go. And CC, you shouldn't be taking pills if you don't know what's in them. Find a trusted source, and research places like www.dancesafe.org to find out what's in the rolls you are taking.
 
Yes they r still young and i dont wanna really show those pictures :worried:
KillahBee said:
If you really want to turn this into a pissing match, we can. But let's not and say we did - there are impressionable youth here at EF.
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Like any rec. drug, if you don't know what you're doing it can cause harm. Having said that, E is not addictive and taken in moderation is reasonably safe. He needs to make sure he gets it from a 'trusted' source. I use the inverted commas because no source is really trusted, but at least someone he knows.
 
Lady Viking said:
Yes.
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Physically, the chance is slim. I forget the exact numbers, but I think the US averages around 40 Ecstacy deaths/year just from ingestion of the drug, not because of what the person does after he/she takes it.

He could kill himself doing something really stupid while on E, I'm sure that's happened before.

Could he fuck up his head? Definetly. Serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine levels are not the greatest thing to fuck with. Flood the brain with them while on drugs and you'll feel great. Do it too much and when your brain is at normal levels, you could be extremely depressed and suicidal. Heroin is a great example of how fucked up the brain can get from drug use. After a while, your brain no longer produces adaquate dopamine levels, which in turn leaves you going back for more. That, however, you can recover from. Fuck up your receptor sensitivity for serotonin or norepinephrine, however, and you could end up on anti-depressants for a long time, possibly the rest of your life, as well as in some form of therapy.

Try to get him away from it if possible by doing other things on the weekend. Don't know your friend though, so hard to say if this is something that will continue or if it'll eventually pass.
 
KillahBee said:
yep. as I have said in other threads, I am a living, breathing example that someone can do pretty heavy amounts of various drugs and still live a healthy, successful life (afterwards).
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mommuh says drugs are the devil :devil:
 
CanadianCutie said:
Also some people start off with E and move on to coke.. and then.. etc...
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thats what generally happens unfortunitaly....and they also never stay on the same amount after a while they increase their dosage because they think that they are not being affected the same way as they did before....
 
MDMA isnt as toxic as most people think it is. really, in the short term youre talking about potential overheating, depression a few days after etc etc but really, most of the danger that comes with taking ecstacy comes from not knowing how much youre taking, and also, taking what you think is ecstacy but is some other more dangerous drug, like PMA or something like that. long term youre set up for some depression, though i havnt seen a convincing study that guarantees it happening, putting yourself at risk of a bunch of mental illnesses, but really it isnt a life or death drug. id be a lot more wrried about someone taking coke or morphine, and thats fairly common.

overall what can i say, taking those sorts of drugs unsupervised is a fairly bad idea in general, but i doubt that it will kill him if he takes proper precautions ie taking teh same pill from the same batch, keeping cool, keeping appropriately hydrated, making sure he doesnt approach dangerous levels of depression a few days after (ie suicide risk) and that sort of thing.

just bloody legalise it imo, take out the criminal element, and let people fry their brains if they want to. bunch of meddling bastards
 
this thread is makin my leg go up and down.

its been a hot minute.

anyone wanna go clubbin? lol
 
isnt there a drug forum?
 
From 2000 to 2003 I consumed over 200 tabs of e and had more fun than anyone could imagine :garza: Brain still feels pretty solid (no depression or mood disorders yet). One possible lasting side might be that my e use could have contributed to my current Hypo-thyroidism (although who knows it's tough to prove). The only other side effect that I still feel today are my fucked up feet....the e made me dance too hard/too fast/too often which basically collapsed my arches (not fun). Not sure if they will will ever recover 100%....
 
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Some of theese replies have been great

after what ive read here think i might join him Lol jkg

But it has put my mind at ease somewhat.
 
General-K said:
Some of theese replies have been great

after what ive read here think i might join him Lol jkg

But it has put my mind at ease somewhat.
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it really comes down to your friend's personality and ability to handle drugs. I am an advocate of using drugs recreationally - the problem is, most people don't have that ability. So just watch out for him, hopefully he'll have some fun with it then walk away.
 
I concur..

Also it cause me to gride my teeth a bit and i had to get a few caps

As long as you don't get to caught up and lose track of the real world it can be a real trip :p

Mr. Black said:
From 2000 to 2003 I consumed over 200 tabs of e and had more fun than anyone could imagine :garza: Brain still feels pretty solid (no depression or mood disorders yet). One possible lasting side might be that my e use could have contributed to my current Hypo-thyroidism (although who knows it's tough to prove). The only other side effect that I still feel today are my fucked up feet....the e made me dance too hard/too fast/too often which basically collapsed my arches (not fun). Not sure if they will will ever recover 100%....
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CanadianCutie said:
I concur..

Also it cause me to gride my teeth a bit and i had to get a few caps
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Oh right...forgot about that one. Yeah I grinded my teeth down quite a bit as well, cracked my eye tooth right down the middle. The dentist asked me about it and I told him I am an aggressive gum chewer :rolleyes:
 
I blamed peanut butter

Thank god for insurance:)

Mr. Black said:
Oh right...forgot about that one. Yeah I grinded my teeth down quite a bit as well, cracked my eye tooth right down the middle. The dentist asked me about it and I told him I am an aggressive gum chewer :rolleyes:
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General-K said:
Im gonna try one 2morow night Lol
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Try not to eat too much before as food will delay your "high" as well possibly decreasing its intensity. Start off at 1/2 tab first (to assess your tolerance) and wait a couple hours and see how you are feeling. Also chewing gum while you are high will prevent you from grinding as much and munching on you inner gums. I had one buddy that actually chewed his toungue/inner gum area so bad it got infected and he required antibiotics...Hydrate yourself frequently, but not in excess (too much at a time can lead to swelling of the brain). If you can swing it, when your high is peaking, find some hot bitch and get her to give you a backrub and of course should the oppurtunity arise, find some wet pussy to rail. Sex on X is out of this world :p Have fun bro :)
 
I used to take E. I wish I never did. You get all fucked up and spend a ton of money etc. I did it all the time for about a year.
Here is why I stopped:
One night I had these two hot strippers back at my house. I had taken 8 tabs that night. Things got hot and heavy with the three of us... and... I couldn't get it up. I freaked out. That had never happened before. I was done with it from that day on!
 
slat1 said:
two hot strippers back at my house. I had taken 8 tabs that night. Things got hot and heavy with the three of us... and... I couldn't get it up. !
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OH FUCK! So the 3-way never happened?
 
slat1 said:
I used to take E. I wish I never did. You get all fucked up and spend a ton of money etc. I did it all the time for about a year.
Here is why I stopped:
One night I had these two hot strippers back at my house. I had taken 8 tabs that night. Things got hot and heavy with the three of us... and... I couldn't get it up. I freaked out. That had never happened before. I was done with it from that day on!
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Use the power of the little blue diamond.
 
samoth said:
Ket? Really? You talking high doses, lol? Give me a few points of tweak and I'm good, lol.



:cow:
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Yep - I loved it. Had some insane experiences and some great sex with it. Coke is a girl's drug anyway.
 
Mr. Black said:
My favourite was a custom blend of X + Mescaline :p
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Never seen mescaline around the Milwaukee area. I don't think it's too popular around these parts.

Outside of coke, acid, and weed (and that small subgroup of steroid users, lol), the scene's pretty dry around here. Could be a correlation between that and a lack of decent clubs around here.



:cow:
 
spongebob said:
btw crystal beats coke by a long mile. especially if you smoke it.
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Good quality crystal meth is hard to find, especially if you don't live near the west coast.

I personally think any tweak beats coke by a longshot. I guess it depends on the purity one is used to getting around their area. Coke 'round these parts is pretty dirty.



:cow:
 
dunk said:
how does K make C look like sweetnlow?

every time ive done it im unable to move. (in a good way)

K's a downer
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Cause a lot of girls and 16 yo boys do coke. Not many of those people have the balls to do K. That is what I meant.
 
samoth said:
But it's so easy to make fun of people getting high off of cough syrup, lol.


:cow:
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hey were moving up in the world. we have powder now. plus you can just drink zicam now. lol
 
KillahBee said:
Cause a lot of girls and 16 yo boys do coke. Not many of those people have the balls to do K. That is what I meant.
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LOL, yep, there's a 16 yo slimmy I was flirting with that was telling me all about her and her friends that are into coke and such.

It's usually the more hardcore users that bring up subjects like ket.

Either way, it's sad to see young people get messed up with drugs.



:cow:
 
samoth said:
Good quality crystal meth is hard to find, especially if you don't live near the west coast.

I personally think any tweak beats coke by a longshot. I guess it depends on the purity one is used to getting around their area. Coke 'round these parts is pretty dirty.



:cow:
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i dont really fuck with crystal too much but i think the quality is good here in tx, but yea coke is just plain shitty. but the girls do seem to like it.

if i could, id take x any day over anything.
 
I dunno when i used to go out k was my choice.. i didnt find it to be a downer.. quite the opposite
 
spongebob said:
i dont really fuck with crystal too much but i think the quality is good here in tx, but yea coke is just plain shitty. but the girls do seem to like it.

if i could, id take x any day over anything.
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I think every drug around Milwaukee is shitty, lol.



:cow:
 
Anyone ever mix coke and k - don't try putting on make up after that
 
ceasar989 said:
dont even let eringobraugh see this thread...
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LOL, how did I miss this, the hong king connection is here. The only importer of *** in North America. The finest quality of 30mgtablets of USP pure ***. The best molecule ever, blows ketamine out of the water.. Foget X and go with the * man. Its better and legal for now.
 
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is this a rec drug thread? 73 responses? man, mods must be slacking, or maybe everyone didn't get the memo
 
spongebob said:
hey were moving up in the world. we have powder now. plus you can just drink zicam now. lol
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Im going to make and market my own elixir, much better than ...., that shits too expensive and still people buy it. I can have it made identically cheaper and bring it over and work on the taste and marketing. There will be a better way, just have to come up with a good name, perhaps fourth plateau or something.
 
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Eringobraugh said:
The best molecule ever, blows ketamine out of the water.. Foget X and go with the D man. Its better and legal for now.
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oh and do you think they will be clamping down on it?
 
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spongebob said:
oh and do you think they will be clamping down on it? might be hard to replace as a ...........
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Yup, the FDA is for real on this one I think. That research shit just aint gonna fly no more with not for human consumption business. Hey, it eliminates the competition. Im telling ya there is a goldmine to be had and no, they arent going to bring codeine back lol.
 
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Eringobraugh said:
Yup, the FDA is for real on this one I think. That research shit just aint gonna fly no more with not for human consumption business. Hey, it eliminates the competition. Im telling ya there is a goldmine to be had and no, they arent going to bring codeine back lol.
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so do you think they will even take it off the shelves?.

that would suck.
 
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spongebob said:
so do you think they will even take it off the shelves?.

that would suck.
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Maybe. Once it's banned the FDA gets control so they can sell it. They did it with GHB and have already make some bank and stand to make more when Orphan Medical or other drug companies request INDs. DXM isn't as versitle or as G so there isn't as large a potential market. Also like Eringobraugh said the FDA might not have an easy case after its been used in OTC shit for decades. I doubt it's worth their (FDA) time but media and politics may have some fun with it.
 
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ChewYxRage said:
Then you got bunk shit. You will know if it's working.
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I had the feeling, but it just wasnt anything special for me. I got a 100% pure capsule of MDMA....maybe claims, but it just didnt seem like my thing.
 
ceasar989 said:
I had the feeling, but it just wasnt anything special for me. I got a 100% pure capsule of MDMA....maybe claims, but it just didnt seem like my thing.
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You mean like a gelatin capsule with some powder in it? It was probably not pure mdma or a small dose cut with something else. If you rolled there's no way you'd be saying "it just didn't seem like my thing". I guess you could have some particularly odd brain chemistry but it's rare that people not having an awesomely blissful MDMA experience.
 
deltreefitness said:
You mean like a gelatin capsule with some powder in it? It was probably not pure mdma or a small dose cut with something else. If you rolled there's no way you'd be saying "it just didn't seem like my thing". I don't care who you are the point of drug is to make you feel like no matter what - it IS YOUR THING lol.
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maybe so. But i was never really one for feel good drugs, too dangerous for me.
 
ceasar989 said:
maybe so. But i was never really one for feel good drugs, too dangerous for me.
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Do you drink? If you can practice temperance with alcohol you can with E. Probably more so due to the inevitable "e-hang over"
 
ceasar989 said:
maybe so. But i was never really one for feel good drugs, too dangerous for me.
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Once you highdex man, there's no going back to X, it just doesnt compare on any level, most dont know how to dex though so they dont like it. The euphoria and empathetic feelings are a hundred times stronger on dxm, again, if done right. Having taken both side by side as I got my shit for free from a major supplier of quality X, its like night and day difference. Ones for kids at raves with pacifiers in their mouths and one's for hardcore psychonauts.
 
I dont drink delt.

Cant stand the smell of alcohol. Hell, I can barely apply some hair gels to my hair cause of the alcohol content.
 
Eringobraugh said:
Once you highdex man, there's no going back to X, it just doesnt compare on any level, most dont know how to dex though so they dont like it. The euphoria and empathetic feelings are a hundred times stronger on dxm, again, if done right. Having taken both side by side as I got my shit for free from a major supplier of quality X, its like night and day difference. Ones for kids at raves with pacifiers in their mouths and one's for hardcore psychonauts.
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yeah man, i didnt really care for the feelings of x.
 
Eringobraugh said:
Once you highdex man, there's no going back to X, it just doesnt compare on any level, most dont know how to dex though so they dont like it. The euphoria and empathetic feelings are a hundred times stronger on dxm, again, if done right. Having taken both side by side as I got my shit for free from a major supplier of quality X, its like night and day difference. Ones for kids at raves with pacifiers in their mouths and one's for hardcore psychonauts.
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I have little experience with D so I can't say for sure. I know what you mean though. That's the beauty of variety. You can enjoy what may suite the occasion. Just like tina is a much more intense high than coke they both have their place.
 
ceasar989 said:
I dont drink delt.

Cant stand the smell of alcohol. Hell, I can barely apply some hair gels to my hair cause of the alcohol content.
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lol that's a completely different type of alcohol! I don't drink either. I would rate it (ethanol alcohol) an over-all shitty drug if not the worst.

One thing I can't stand is the phrase "drugs and alcohol" as if there is a difference and alcohol is somewhat OK and anything else is bad.
 
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