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big_bad_buff
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pin said:
sounds like your set bro, keep storing that food up, a good year supplies is what i'm tring for
Economic, Social Collapse and US vs Iran War coming.
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sounds like your set bro, keep storing that food up, a good year supplies is what i'm tring for
Razorguns
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big_bad_buff said:
Wont happen. Not as long as we continue to buy China's shit.
All this is useless grovelling about the end of time. Funny people have been saying this since the beginning of time "If our Roman Empire falls, it will be the end of Civilization!!"-- Big Bad Buff, RomeForever.com.
Unless you specific detailed information aside from pointing and shouting - you're just speculating. Yeah standard of living is going down, we're getting more poor people from 3rd world countries, and yeah education is in the pitts - but that doesn't mean the coutnry is destroyed. Smart people do find ways around this. Welcome to life 101.
But another expensive useless war making gas go to $8/gallon will though. But the elitists aren't stupid. So that won't happen.
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nzrodney
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Some of you may be aware of NESARA -
" NESARA - provides major benefits to Americans including:
Forgives credit card, mortgage, and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government activities
Abolishes income tax
Abolishes IRS; creates flat rate non-essential "new items only" sales tax revenue for government
Increases benefits to senior citizens
Returns Constitutional Law
Establishes new Presidential and Congressional elections within 120 days after NESARA's announcement
Monitors elections and prevents illegal election activities of special interest groups
Creates new US Treasury currency, "rainbow currency," backed by gold, silver, and platinum precious metals
Returns Constitutional Law to all our courts and legal matters.
Initiates new U.S. Treasury Bank System in alignment with Constitutional Law
Eliminates the Federal Reserve System
Restores financial privacy
Retrains all judges and attorneys in Constitutional Law
Ceases all aggressive, US government military actions worldwide
Establishes peace throughout the world
Initiates first phase of worldwide prosperity distribution of vast wealth which has been accumulating for many decades
Releases enormous sums of money for humanitarian purposes
Enables the release of new technologies such as alternative energy devices "
I have it from a very good authority that NESARA will be implimented in a partial form in the near future. What you are seeing now is the demise of the old Federal Reserve System & the raising of awareness of a corrupt political & financial world.
" NESARA - provides major benefits to Americans including:
Forgives credit card, mortgage, and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government activities
Abolishes income tax
Abolishes IRS; creates flat rate non-essential "new items only" sales tax revenue for government
Increases benefits to senior citizens
Returns Constitutional Law
Establishes new Presidential and Congressional elections within 120 days after NESARA's announcement
Monitors elections and prevents illegal election activities of special interest groups
Creates new US Treasury currency, "rainbow currency," backed by gold, silver, and platinum precious metals
Returns Constitutional Law to all our courts and legal matters.
Initiates new U.S. Treasury Bank System in alignment with Constitutional Law
Eliminates the Federal Reserve System
Restores financial privacy
Retrains all judges and attorneys in Constitutional Law
Ceases all aggressive, US government military actions worldwide
Establishes peace throughout the world
Initiates first phase of worldwide prosperity distribution of vast wealth which has been accumulating for many decades
Releases enormous sums of money for humanitarian purposes
Enables the release of new technologies such as alternative energy devices "
I have it from a very good authority that NESARA will be implimented in a partial form in the near future. What you are seeing now is the demise of the old Federal Reserve System & the raising of awareness of a corrupt political & financial world.
JumpBallWinner
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nzrodney said:
Wow, never heard of NESARA before, but pray that you are right about it being a reality. The "restoring constitutional law, eliminating the federal reserve, restoring financial privacy" notes really sound good.
More about this please. Who will be implementing it? Seems like the only people with the power to do so would be the people who would have the most to lose by doing so, so I got to ask.... why would they do so?
Although I really hope that you are right, I'm curious to hear more about where this info comes from.
big_bad_buff
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^^^^
No offense but all you guys who are like, holy fuck I need to seclude myself in solitude and load up with guns and ammo and years supply and food and water because north america is going to end (or the world) in brimstone and chaos and I'll need to kill to survive, are fucking retarded.
I just wanted to throw that out there, YOURE MORONS! the world isn't ending, chill the fuck out.
I just wanted to throw that out there, YOURE MORONS! the world isn't ending, chill the fuck out.
digimon7068
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nzrodney said:
you realize that there are already very well established systems in place for aquiring taxable goods and avoiding state sales tax, right?? you're gonna need a BIG ASS government to enforce a national sales tax. . .good luck funding it with the proceeds from a tax that is difficult to enforce.
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nzrodney
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I have been interested in this "project" for some years. There is a lot of disinformation & bullshit attached to the various sites & groups involved. It will not be implimented in its entirity as it would & still may cause a complete upheavel of the worlds monitory, financial & political systems. You will see that it is already an Act by Congress passed in 2000. Take out of it what you want. Some is Truth ,some is not. Here is a bit of background information:
History Behind the National Economic Security And Reformation Act (NESARA)
NESARA’s reformations are the main tools for implementing important US Supreme Court rulings made in January 1993 on several cases filed by farmers living in US Midwest and Mountain states areas against banks, specific government officials, certain judges, and others. Certain US Generals and Admirals were supportive of, and one General was co-plaintiff in, the Farmers’ Cases that went to the US Supreme Court. You may recall in the 1970’s and 1980’s there were news reports and documentaries about thousands of family farmers losing their farms to foreclosure. Willie Nelson has been doing Farm Aid concerts for years to help these farmers.
In the 1980’s some of the farmers investigated why there were so many bank foreclosures on their farms and discovered certain banks were fraudulently foreclosing on their farms. When these farmers turned to government officials for assistance and filed lawsuits against these banks, they learned certain government officials and judges were working in collusion with the banks. The farmers also learned that certain aspects of the current Federal Reserve banking system were unconstitutional and pursued their lawsuits through the Federal District Court in Denver and other locations. Some of the farmers involved in the lawsuits were harassed by the IRS and in turn investigated the IRS involvement with the bankers. After years of lawsuits, several of the farmers’ lawsuits reached the US Supreme Court including Baskerville and Foster v. Credit Bank of Wichita, Federal Land Bank, and First Interstate Bank of Fort Collins from the Denver Federal District Court. For simplicity, I call these cases at the US Supreme Court the "Farmers’ Cases".
In early 1993, the nine US Supreme Court judges ruled seven to two in favor of the farmers on all major issues including that the Federal Reserve Banking system was unconstitutional, that the US has been operating outside the Constitution since March 1933, that major reformations of government and our banking system are required, and that financial redress and remedies must be provided for financial losses due to bank fraud suffered by generations of Americans. The farmers involved certain very powerful US military Generals and Admirals in their cases. These Generals and Admirals made it clear to the US Supreme Court judges that they knew the farmers’ cases were righteous and watched in the courtroom as the US Supreme Court Judges heard the cases. The presence of the Generals and Admirals is why the majority of the judges felt they had to rule properly and in favor of the farmers. Because of the extraordinary nature of the necessary reformations, the Court sealed all court records and put all people directly involved under Non Disclosure agreements (gag orders) until the reformations are publicly and officially announced.
The Court had a duty to design and implement reformations to correct the injustices; therefore, the Court recruited experts in Constitutional Law, banking, economics, and monetary systems to work in task force groups to develop the needed reformations. During the two years these expert groups developed the reformations, irrefutable proof was provided to the US Supreme Court Judges that the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, the income tax amendment, had not been properly ratified. The Judges had no choice but to include abolishing income taxes in the reformations development process. It was also found that there had been a definite pattern of federal administrations and Congress ignoring the Constitution in laws passed since 1933. FDR took the US out of Constitutional Law when he declared a national banking emergency and amended the Trading with the Enemy Act in March 1933.
Constitutional Law experts working on government reformations determined that to end the pattern of blatant disregard for the Constitution, it would be necessary to require the sitting US administration and US Congress to resign when Constitutional Law is restored. Following completion of the development of the reformations, the Court appointed certain experts and others to a "committee" which has authority to manage the process of announcing and implementing the reformations.
Once the reformations were developed, the Court made half-hearted efforts to implement the reformations through an "Accords" agreement process with the Clinton administration. During that time, very little progress was made to implement the reformations. However quantities of the new US Treasury currency backed by gold were printed and shipped to certain banks in the US where the currency has sat in bank vaults for years awaiting the announcement of the reformations. When NESARA is announced, many more shipments of the new Treasury currency will be shipped to all banks in the US under guard by US military units.
During the years of the Accords process, the Court approved a "claims against the government process" (also known as Farm Claims or Bank Claims) which was meant to provide specific financial redress to Americans, however, various groups and individuals interfered with the claims process.
Finally in 1998, the powerful US military Generals and Admirals consulted with constitutional law experts regarding the lack of progress in getting the much-needed reformations implemented. The Generals, Admirals, and constitutional law experts all knew the US Supreme Court Judges were purposely stalling the reformations process. It was decided that the only other way to accomplish the crucial reformations was to compile all the needed reformations into a law and have the law passed by Congress. The National Economic Security And Reformation Act (NESARA) containing required reformations was submitted to Congress in 1999 where it sat with little action for almost a year. Late one evening in March 2000, a written quorum call was hand-delivered by Delta Force and Navy SEALs to only members of the US Senate and the US House who were sponsors and co-sponsors of NESARA. The members were immediately accompanied by the Delta Force and Navy SEALs to their respective voting chambers where they passed the National Economic Security And Reformation Act.
The National Economic Security And Reformation Act provides the following, some of which will take place immediately after the official announcement of NESARA which is to be televised live from Washington, DC:
1. Restores Constitutional Law in the USA.
2. Requires the current US administration to resign their positions to allow a fresh start at the national level and installs Constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates until new elections can take place within six months. Bush and Cheney will be resigning and the Cabinet and Appointees by the President, and all members of Congress must resign within 72 hours of NESARA’s announcement.
3. NESARA US President Designate declares "peace" because NESARA abolishes unconstitutional states of emergency.
4. As partial remedy for 100 years of government and banking fraud, credit card balances are zeroed out and bank debt relief is given to Americans for bank loans including mortgages, car loans, education loans, business loans, and other bank debt. Banks will be paid $9000 per each credit card account with a balance; these funds were raised in special revenue generating activities in Europe. NESARA requires other bank debts be made self-liquidating loans and US banks are instructed to use new high revenue generating processes to pay off Americans’ bank loans.
5. Initiates the US Treasury Bank System with new U.S. Treasury currency backed by precious metals. The Federal Reserve is abolished and Federal Reserve facilities and most personnel are absorbed into the Treasury Bank System. We will be exchanging our Federal Reserve notes, which are not backed by gold, for the US Treasury currency which is backed by gold. Many bank personnel have already been trained on NESARA and the new currency is already in some banks’ vaults.
6. Abolishes Income Taxes in US and creates a national sales tax on new, non-essential items as revenue for government. Essential items such as food and medicine, and used items are exempt from the sales tax.
The NESARA law requires that a minimum of one time each year, there must be an effort made to announce NESARA. Three current US Supreme Court judges control the committee in charge of NESARA’s announcement. The Judges have used their overall authority to secretly sabotage NESARA’s announcement; thus each year NESARA has been blocked from being announced.
This is why NESARA has not been announced: the people with the overall authority to order NESARA’s announcement are, in fact, blocking NESARA.
Due to the gag order on NESARA, it is difficult for true NESARA supporters to learn exactly what has happened to stop NESARA from being announced.
Investigating details with hundreds of people has yielded exactly what needs to be done to resolve key issues and bring NESARA to announcement. After learning what the "problems" related to NESARA are, I’ve researched deeply to find the "solutions" and those people who can carry out the solutions and bring NESARA to announcement.
In many ways, our country is facing the worst crisis of its history:
More Americans are unemployed, drowning in debt, and living in poverty than anytime since World War II
Our government irresponsibly races to assume more debt on top of highest historical debts
Our military lose their lives in battles for greedy corporations’ gains
Our elections revolve around lies, bribery, and betrayals.
We do not hear "truth" in our media; the media is controlled by opponents of Americans and America’s Constitutional Law.
Some of our greatest Americans speak the truth of today’s America:
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Thomas Paine, December 19, 1776
We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution. Abraham Lincoln
The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind. …We have it in our power to begin the world over again. Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
Our Founding Fathers and Abraham Lincoln had true courage. Our Founding Fathers faced the reality of the tyranny by the English Crown and chose to put their lives on the line to gain freedom!
History Behind the National Economic Security And Reformation Act (NESARA)
NESARA’s reformations are the main tools for implementing important US Supreme Court rulings made in January 1993 on several cases filed by farmers living in US Midwest and Mountain states areas against banks, specific government officials, certain judges, and others. Certain US Generals and Admirals were supportive of, and one General was co-plaintiff in, the Farmers’ Cases that went to the US Supreme Court. You may recall in the 1970’s and 1980’s there were news reports and documentaries about thousands of family farmers losing their farms to foreclosure. Willie Nelson has been doing Farm Aid concerts for years to help these farmers.
In the 1980’s some of the farmers investigated why there were so many bank foreclosures on their farms and discovered certain banks were fraudulently foreclosing on their farms. When these farmers turned to government officials for assistance and filed lawsuits against these banks, they learned certain government officials and judges were working in collusion with the banks. The farmers also learned that certain aspects of the current Federal Reserve banking system were unconstitutional and pursued their lawsuits through the Federal District Court in Denver and other locations. Some of the farmers involved in the lawsuits were harassed by the IRS and in turn investigated the IRS involvement with the bankers. After years of lawsuits, several of the farmers’ lawsuits reached the US Supreme Court including Baskerville and Foster v. Credit Bank of Wichita, Federal Land Bank, and First Interstate Bank of Fort Collins from the Denver Federal District Court. For simplicity, I call these cases at the US Supreme Court the "Farmers’ Cases".
In early 1993, the nine US Supreme Court judges ruled seven to two in favor of the farmers on all major issues including that the Federal Reserve Banking system was unconstitutional, that the US has been operating outside the Constitution since March 1933, that major reformations of government and our banking system are required, and that financial redress and remedies must be provided for financial losses due to bank fraud suffered by generations of Americans. The farmers involved certain very powerful US military Generals and Admirals in their cases. These Generals and Admirals made it clear to the US Supreme Court judges that they knew the farmers’ cases were righteous and watched in the courtroom as the US Supreme Court Judges heard the cases. The presence of the Generals and Admirals is why the majority of the judges felt they had to rule properly and in favor of the farmers. Because of the extraordinary nature of the necessary reformations, the Court sealed all court records and put all people directly involved under Non Disclosure agreements (gag orders) until the reformations are publicly and officially announced.
The Court had a duty to design and implement reformations to correct the injustices; therefore, the Court recruited experts in Constitutional Law, banking, economics, and monetary systems to work in task force groups to develop the needed reformations. During the two years these expert groups developed the reformations, irrefutable proof was provided to the US Supreme Court Judges that the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, the income tax amendment, had not been properly ratified. The Judges had no choice but to include abolishing income taxes in the reformations development process. It was also found that there had been a definite pattern of federal administrations and Congress ignoring the Constitution in laws passed since 1933. FDR took the US out of Constitutional Law when he declared a national banking emergency and amended the Trading with the Enemy Act in March 1933.
Constitutional Law experts working on government reformations determined that to end the pattern of blatant disregard for the Constitution, it would be necessary to require the sitting US administration and US Congress to resign when Constitutional Law is restored. Following completion of the development of the reformations, the Court appointed certain experts and others to a "committee" which has authority to manage the process of announcing and implementing the reformations.
Once the reformations were developed, the Court made half-hearted efforts to implement the reformations through an "Accords" agreement process with the Clinton administration. During that time, very little progress was made to implement the reformations. However quantities of the new US Treasury currency backed by gold were printed and shipped to certain banks in the US where the currency has sat in bank vaults for years awaiting the announcement of the reformations. When NESARA is announced, many more shipments of the new Treasury currency will be shipped to all banks in the US under guard by US military units.
During the years of the Accords process, the Court approved a "claims against the government process" (also known as Farm Claims or Bank Claims) which was meant to provide specific financial redress to Americans, however, various groups and individuals interfered with the claims process.
Finally in 1998, the powerful US military Generals and Admirals consulted with constitutional law experts regarding the lack of progress in getting the much-needed reformations implemented. The Generals, Admirals, and constitutional law experts all knew the US Supreme Court Judges were purposely stalling the reformations process. It was decided that the only other way to accomplish the crucial reformations was to compile all the needed reformations into a law and have the law passed by Congress. The National Economic Security And Reformation Act (NESARA) containing required reformations was submitted to Congress in 1999 where it sat with little action for almost a year. Late one evening in March 2000, a written quorum call was hand-delivered by Delta Force and Navy SEALs to only members of the US Senate and the US House who were sponsors and co-sponsors of NESARA. The members were immediately accompanied by the Delta Force and Navy SEALs to their respective voting chambers where they passed the National Economic Security And Reformation Act.
The National Economic Security And Reformation Act provides the following, some of which will take place immediately after the official announcement of NESARA which is to be televised live from Washington, DC:
1. Restores Constitutional Law in the USA.
2. Requires the current US administration to resign their positions to allow a fresh start at the national level and installs Constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates until new elections can take place within six months. Bush and Cheney will be resigning and the Cabinet and Appointees by the President, and all members of Congress must resign within 72 hours of NESARA’s announcement.
3. NESARA US President Designate declares "peace" because NESARA abolishes unconstitutional states of emergency.
4. As partial remedy for 100 years of government and banking fraud, credit card balances are zeroed out and bank debt relief is given to Americans for bank loans including mortgages, car loans, education loans, business loans, and other bank debt. Banks will be paid $9000 per each credit card account with a balance; these funds were raised in special revenue generating activities in Europe. NESARA requires other bank debts be made self-liquidating loans and US banks are instructed to use new high revenue generating processes to pay off Americans’ bank loans.
5. Initiates the US Treasury Bank System with new U.S. Treasury currency backed by precious metals. The Federal Reserve is abolished and Federal Reserve facilities and most personnel are absorbed into the Treasury Bank System. We will be exchanging our Federal Reserve notes, which are not backed by gold, for the US Treasury currency which is backed by gold. Many bank personnel have already been trained on NESARA and the new currency is already in some banks’ vaults.
6. Abolishes Income Taxes in US and creates a national sales tax on new, non-essential items as revenue for government. Essential items such as food and medicine, and used items are exempt from the sales tax.
The NESARA law requires that a minimum of one time each year, there must be an effort made to announce NESARA. Three current US Supreme Court judges control the committee in charge of NESARA’s announcement. The Judges have used their overall authority to secretly sabotage NESARA’s announcement; thus each year NESARA has been blocked from being announced.
This is why NESARA has not been announced: the people with the overall authority to order NESARA’s announcement are, in fact, blocking NESARA.
Due to the gag order on NESARA, it is difficult for true NESARA supporters to learn exactly what has happened to stop NESARA from being announced.
Investigating details with hundreds of people has yielded exactly what needs to be done to resolve key issues and bring NESARA to announcement. After learning what the "problems" related to NESARA are, I’ve researched deeply to find the "solutions" and those people who can carry out the solutions and bring NESARA to announcement.
In many ways, our country is facing the worst crisis of its history:
More Americans are unemployed, drowning in debt, and living in poverty than anytime since World War II
Our government irresponsibly races to assume more debt on top of highest historical debts
Our military lose their lives in battles for greedy corporations’ gains
Our elections revolve around lies, bribery, and betrayals.
We do not hear "truth" in our media; the media is controlled by opponents of Americans and America’s Constitutional Law.
Some of our greatest Americans speak the truth of today’s America:
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Thomas Paine, December 19, 1776
We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution. Abraham Lincoln
The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind. …We have it in our power to begin the world over again. Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
Our Founding Fathers and Abraham Lincoln had true courage. Our Founding Fathers faced the reality of the tyranny by the English Crown and chose to put their lives on the line to gain freedom!
nzrodney
Banned
In my country there has been a National Sales tax of 12% on all items including food & medicines, petrol, services etc. It is called Goods & Services Tax (GST). This has been in place & easily administered by the National Goverment for 20 years.digimon7068 said:you realize that there are already very well established systems in place for aquiring taxable goods and avoiding state sales tax, right?? you're gonna need a BIG ASS government to enforce a national sales tax. . .good luck funding it with the proceeds from a tax that is difficult to enforce.
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