Dose pct matter to you? How much does keeping your gains matter to you?

[lookinfit75]

If you're happy with the gains at 6 weeks, you have a BETTER chance of keeping them if you stop now as opposed to staying suppressed longer.

You won't keep ALL the weight because obviously abombs increase blood and water and that goes away after cessation of use. Add some BIG BLAST to replace some of the lost volume.

Thanks Neslon. It just seems more logical to me to try and work on gaining smaller increments which are more keepable than trying to make large gains (which this cycle is yeilding) only to loose the majority of them once the cycle is ceased due to suppression. Not to mention the sides are less pronounced.

 

[aquatic_glories]

If you're happy with the gains at 6 weeks, you have a BETTER chance of keeping them if you stop now as opposed to staying suppressed longer.

You won't keep ALL the weight because obviously abombs increase blood and water and that goes away after cessation of use. Add some BIG BLAST to replace some of the lost volume.

Nelson, my problem is almost same.

Even with long esters such as hex,cyp,enanthate ; I reach 98% of my peak measurement sizes by week 6.
I also believe long esters work asap just like you said and I also believe 2 week of dbol kickstart is more than enough just like you said.

What kind of cycling plan would be the best choice for me?

thanks

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, my problem is almost same.

Even with long esters such as hex,cyp,enanthate ; I reach 98% of my peak measurement sizes by week 6.
I also believe long esters work asap just like you said and I also believe 2 week of dbol kickstart is more than enough just like you said.

What kind of cycling plan would be the best choice for me?

thanks

If we go back to the "old days" (the 90's), 6 weeks were the typical cycle length for guys who went on and off. The reason being, after a month or so, you peak, then you can make some more gains, and after that, they come slower and you have to resign yourself to being shut down. To some guys it's worth it. And then they go back on it a month or two! But I feel, if you're going to do that, you might as well stay on. You can't keep shutting down the HPTA and restarting it if you expect to recover fully. But there are a whole host of excuses -- guys say the ester doesn;t kick in for 6 weeks, or staying on "solidifies" the gains, or they do PCT so they're fine. It's all rationalizing and denial.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I have actually been thinking of trying the 6 week cycle routine. Plus never trying d-bol or a-bombs before I was thinking of doing cycles like, 6 weeks a-bombs only, or 6 weeks d-bol only, or d-bol and prop for 6 weeks, or tren and prop. Hit it hard, get in, get out.
The only shitty thing about that is, PCT. Having to buy PP's TRS and Post cycle and Unleashed each time for multiple short cycles would get very expensive.

 

[aquatic_glories]

I am also thinking of 2-3 week cycles with some prime dieting before that. I might focus on lagging bodyparts on that AAS period. Then repeat when necessary

I am thinking lot of things right now but in none of them , cycles are over 6 weeks LOL

 

[badq8]

just placed my order of TRS, thanks for the advice needtogetaas!

 

[needtogetaas]

Next time get the discount code from me bro. So its cheaper..

 

[lookinfit75]

I am happy with the gains I've made in these first 4 weeks and am seriously considering calling it quits after the 6th week. The more I think about it from a logical stand point, it makes more sense to maintain a healthy H.P.T.A. and use that to maintain the gains as opposed to using pharmacology.

 

[needtogetaas]

bump for discounts in a pm

 

[needtogetaas]

Fore almost 4 years now I have been working with members of elite fitness and doing everything I can to help them with all there needs.

many of the members I have watched over for years now. They have come to me for advice time and time again. And I always come threw for them. Not just new members(though I always help the newbs too). But long time members.

One peace of advice I have maintained firm on over the years is about pct. For almost as long as I been helping members and longer then I have been a mod I have been advising everyone to use
Primordial Performance products. And for pct I have adviced people to at least add in Sustain Alpha to there pct or use
Testosterone Recovery Stack for pct out right.

I started out with Primordial Performance a few years ago when they came to this site with there revolutionary brake threw product Dermacrine. I used the product,got test after only two weeks of use

For me I was convinced it was a great product and that Primordial Performance
was on the edge of something big.

I was happy to jump on board with Primordial Performance
and have never been let down since. from there first product Dermacrine up till now.


When they came out with with all the products in the Testosterone Recovery Stack Like always I was the first to try them and one of the first to advocate the use of them for pct.

If you been reading my post on ef (how could you miss them) you are prob well aware of my love for the members and for the site. And how I show this love in every way I can. from just keeping the site clean and running the mod team, to spending 4-5 hours a day in pm's with the members.

My heart is with all of ef. And for this reason I never ever put any of these members below myself or personal gain. I did all that i do now for 3 years for nothing. Not even a dime. And though I would not be to happy (ha ha) I would still be the same way if I had to be.


Guys.. pct is not a joke. Its not something any of us can take lightly. A bad pct can not only make us lose valuable gains but in some cases it can leave people shut down or messed up for a long time.

For this reason. I am offering up this peace of advice. Please go the extra mile with your pct. Get that bottle of Sustain Alpha and add it to the pct you think you are fine with. If you have not tried it you are going to be pretty damn happy you did.

Go the extra mile. Take the jump over to
Testosterone Recovery Stack for pct.

If you are thinking about throwing in a bottle of unleadshed or post cycle for your pct. Just do it. This is your gains and your recovery we are talking about here.

Most of the time when some one tells you AAAAH don't use it use nolva or clomid. Thats all. Well most of the time and I am sorry to say this. That person really does not care at all about you or your recovery/pct. He just likes hearin himself talk. Or likes to think he is right and refuses to open his mind about things.


Primordial Performance guys. You will not be sorry. Do it for yourself. And pm me for a discount because i also like to make sure people get the products as cheap as they can get them. We all need to save money.

Thanks bro's