is that original derm? I'm taking DHEA right now....not derm.........and I have to say I kind of like it. I'm using it sparingly because it does shut you down...........but I could see myself trying a heavy dose cycle in the coming months to see what this is all about. I mean, apparently the body converts it to test at higher doses...........so you take it along with an anti e.........you should see blood levels of testosterone approaching that of mild to medium inject cycles. I"m thinkin that transdermal application might be a good idea with the dhea.