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does gyno develop years after steroid use?

MaGilicuti

MaGilicuti

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i haven't used anything in years. when i was on years ago i did do some crazy tren cycles. i did a light cycle 2 years ago for the first time in awhile and it really really hit me.

at 26 i was losing my hair suddenly. now at 28 i'm seeing gyno forming. i'm on proscar for my hair loss (which doesn't even seem to be from my family at all) so that might be helping the gyno.

so basically from juicing my chest and scalp is f'd up.
 
i also wanted to note that my nipples look fine when they are hard. but if not they are extremely puffy and can stick out from my shirt. its really terrible to me.
 
I can see on cycle you will get some MPB. but years after means you are probably prone even tho some family will have all their hair. Not sure about proscar

As for gyno, what's your diet off cycle. I felt it off cycle because my diet was shit for a year. Diet has changed and they feel better.
Maybe some nolva for a few weeks to try to get rid of it. if not then consult a Doc.
 
i was having the same issue. you could be storing fat in your chest. I can keep a six pack w/o working out but if i stop working out my chest, fat gets stored there easily for my body. it sucks but hey try to loose some body fat. it helps tremendously
 
MaGilicuti said:
i also wanted to note that my nipples look fine when they are hard. but if not they are extremely puffy and can stick out from my shirt. its really terrible to me.
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mine are like that on cycle..left side is worse than right they are kinda puffy and point but as you said if they get hard they look fine...you could always try piercing them i hear that keeps em hard
 
it could also just keep getting worse as you get older if left untreated. maybe it wasn't noticable till now but you may have always had it.
 
I went through something similar and its IMO is has to do with high E and low test. Unless your test is 500 or higher (and this is relative!) it is hard to find that balance between estro and test. I think if I were you I would check the test level then watch your diet closely and cut the calories way back.
 
the most likely culprit is the proscar, which reduces DHT levels.

- DHT acts as a anti-e and anti-a.

- eliminate or lower DHT and its logical to assume that not only will your estrogen levels rise (more aromatization), but also that there will be more unoccupied breast tissue e-receptors for circulating Estrogen to bind to.

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Mavafanculo said:
the most likely culprit is the proscar, which reduces DHT levels.

- DHT acts as a anti-e and anti-a.

- eliminate or lower DHT and its logical to assume that not only will your estrogen levels rise (more aromatization), but also that there will be more unoccupied breast tissue e-receptors for circulating Estrogen to bind to.

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Cool explanation about the causes Mav,
 
i'm not sure what to do at this point. i don't want to get off the proscar but i do want to start treating this. surgery would be great but i can't afford it right now and i dont wanna have to not lift for a couple weeks
 
Mavafanculo said:
the most likely culprit is the proscar, which reduces DHT levels.

- DHT acts as a anti-e and anti-a.

- eliminate or lower DHT and its logical to assume that not only will your estrogen levels rise (more aromatization), but also that there will be more unoccupied breast tissue e-receptors for circulating Estrogen to bind to.

-
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Yep.
 
MaGilicuti said:
i'm just scared to try to treat the gyno (other than surgery) and start to lose hair again.
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not trying to make light of the situation but would you rather be bald (shaving your head is an acceptable end?) or have moobs?
 
MaGilicuti said:
i rather have hair and get surgery down the road
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Proscar won't save your hair. It just slows done the loss a little but at a price I wouldn't be willing to pay. (Soft dick and soft muscles).
 
You could have an HPTA thats got shitkicked (thus, T/E ratios out of whack) because you botched/didnt do a few pcts ... heres a suggestion (from another site- not my protocol):
*run an AA throughout this procedure*, 25 mg aromasin will suffice
-use HCG twice a week for 3 weeks, ex 1500mcg x2, then 1000mcg x2, then 500mcg x2
-then run clomid for 4 weeks, 50,50,25,25
-then cruise on the aromasin for another 2 weeks to avoid any rebound.

Assuming youve been off gear for a while this should suppress estrogen and get your HPTA pumping as good as it can.

IMO its worth a try.
 
should i visit a doctor for this and ask their opinion? i do not want to get off the proscar and i think its one of the reasons gyno is starting up
 
Sorry to step in here but how bad are the marks that are left on the chest after gyno has been removed and do they ever fully heal?
 
SlinSlin said:
Sorry to step in here but how bad are the marks that are left on the chest after gyno has been removed and do they ever fully heal?
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Depends on the type of surgery.. Mine wasn't plastic surgery, so have like 3/4" scars about 6" down from my nipples.. It was close to 2" when I had the surgery done almost 14 years ago. I assume plastic surgery would be done just like they do a ladies boob job and you get left with a scar around your aureole.
 
Burpees said:
Depends on the type of surgery.. Mine wasn't plastic surgery, so have like 3/4" scars about 6" down from my nipples.. It was close to 2" when I had the surgery done almost 14 years ago. I assume plastic surgery would be done just like they do a ladies boob job and you get left with a scar around your aureole.
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i've had both sides done.a good surgeon will go in through the areola and you won't even be able to tell.stitch line follows the circular shape of the areola and only one side of the areola was cut.i'm looking at mine as i type and if you look really close you can barely see where it was cut along outside edge of the areola.
 
how much proscar are you taking,you only need 1/4 of a tablet a day to get the effect for saving hair,,

Would it be ok to take stromba (1st time) with the 1/4 of the proscar and a 1/2 of the tamoxifen liked i was advised
 
Burpees said:
Depends on the type of surgery.. Mine wasn't plastic surgery, so have like 3/4" scars about 6" down from my nipples.. It was close to 2" when I had the surgery done almost 14 years ago. I assume plastic surgery would be done just like they do a ladies boob job and you get left with a scar around your aureole.
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how much did it run you? a friend of mine had it done for 10k
 
MaGilicuti said:
how much did it run you? a friend of mine had it done for 10k
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Mine was free, covered by insurance, I was 13 or 14. We told the doctor it was affecting my quality of life and causing self image issues.
 
MaGilicuti said:
you serious? that works???
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Yea bro, that was a long time ago. I'm 26 going on 27, surgery was when I was 13 or 14.. My mom's a rabid dog when it comes to hers. She had to get paper work signed by head doctors and all. I grew up in at the shrink's, so that easy. Next hard part was getting the insurance to pay for it when it has to be done by a plastic surgeon. I think the solution was to not make it a cosmetic thing..

Also breast cancer runs in my family, so there was also a concern there..Men with breast are also susceptible to this form of cancer.
 
MaGilicuti said:
i'm not sure what to do at this point. i don't want to get off the proscar but i do want to start treating this. surgery would be great but i can't afford it right now and i dont wanna have to not lift for a couple weeks
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It's the proscar man!

It prevents test from turning to DHT, sooo the extra test is converted to estrogen by aromatase.

You are getting female partern fat storage on your chest and probably ductile growth from the high estrogen.

You need to hop on a suicidal aromatase inhibitor like aromasin at 10mg ED or EOD...that should fix you up
 
No it's not androgenic enough to cause hairloss...and yea AIs like armdex, aromasin and especially letro were originally created to treat estrogen dependent breast cancer...but we use it to keep estro from getting out of control.
 
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