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Do you guys feel guilty/ashamed on cycle??

On my cycle of sustanon250 and anavar, i felt really guilty and ashamed of myself for cheating to get bigger and stronger and i always told myself why not work hard naturally so i can be proud of my results, im not gonna lie i had good results during my cycle but then i was thinking to myself the results im getting is fake muscle and strength its not my hard work, so i stopped the cycle and threw all my gear in the garbage.. btw this was last year and i have not looked back..

Does anyone else feel the same?
 
cheating :: hell no . when I'm off cycle cant wait for my time off to jump on it again...
 
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sorry cheating on what exactly ?

well life is simple you make choices and you don't look back !
 
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I think AAS users have it tougher than Natural guys. You have SO much to consider when taking AAS. PCT, sodium intake, on cycle support, ramming extra food down the hatch, pinning, hiding the stuff, the post cycle struggle to keep your gains, and the money that you spend.

Most guys should look at AAS as a way to exceed your genetic limitations. If that's really not why you started cycling, then you shouldn't be on AAS in the first place.

Sometimes AAS can give you depressing thoughts too bro. I always felt like I was king of the world on it but everyone is different. So it could be messing with your head a bit. Just keep your head up and rise above everyone else.
 
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Nope... I know how hard I work... Always remember "we are all just talking monkeys, flying through space on an organic spaceship...." do what makes you happy... Being a beast makes me happy....
 
What are you cheating at??? Recreational lifting? It's not like you are competing in a sport. Steroids mainly became illegal due to their massive use in sports. The. Congress decided to treat it like drugs such as cocaine, marijuana etc. The muscle is 100% real and if you are juicing for theropetic like reasons then there is nothing at all wrong with it.
 
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I always feel terrible about it. That's why I keep doing it. I enjoy punishing myself and troll on elite because I can't bare the burden of my habit.

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Lame. I guess its cheating also to drink protein or take creatine, considering we are chemically altering our bodies and not getting all the body needs through food. Its not cheating its a way to maximize results in as little time as possible, but is in no way "the easy way". Its tough to cycle and really tough to maintain. We go through the same exact thing natty people do and then some, we just get more results in a shorter amount of time. No one takes steriods blows up in a month and walks away from the gym life keeping the gains. We work day in day out, just like the next rat. Cheating would be impants that look like muscle.

I dont feel bad at all never will... all the pussy I get makes me sleep very well at night...... and sometimes mid day naps are great
 
This is the lamest sh*t I have ever seen. Do you even know how to train? Do you even break a sweat in the gym? Cheating? Are you kidding me? Do it natty so I can be proud of my gains? I want to vomit. Spoken like a person who truly has no clue as to the amount of training, diet, and discipline it takes when you are on cycle. Worst part about this whole natty vs aas user debate is that most ass users respect someones decision to train natty, but most people who train natty do not respect my decision to use aas. The only thing that bothers me is when people who have no clue about what they are talking about accuse us of cheating. I bust my ass twice as hard. I eat perfect, I get the proper rest. I sacrifice all kinds off things in life to achieve what I want to. Yeah for those who call that cheating, they can kiss my ass.

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This is the lamest sh*t I have ever seen. Do you even know how to train? Do you even break a sweat in the gym? Cheating? Are you kidding me? Do it natty so I can be proud of my gains? I want to vomit. Spoken like a person who truly has no clue as to the amount of training, diet, and discipline it takes when you are on cycle. Worst part about this whole natty vs aas user debate is that most ass users respect someones decision to train natty, but most people who train natty do not respect my decision to use aas. The only thing that bothers me is when people who have no clue about what they are talking about accuse us of cheating. I bust my ass twice as hard. I eat perfect, I get the proper rest. I sacrifice all kinds off things in life to achieve what I want to. Yeah for those who call that cheating, they can kiss my ass.

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one of the best posts i've ever seen on EF. and I will add that the real AAS users killed it natty for a long time before we started juicing. for me it was about 14 years of natty training.. powerlifting, bodybuilding, and endurance running... I would say AAS has given me the ability to bench a bit more and recover a bit faster now in my 30's which becomes harder as you age. it definately isn't a magic pill, it just gives me a slight edge

really there is no way you can deal with people who accuse you of being on steroids, people who think that its that easy and that all the time spent in the gym, expensive organic food, etc.
 
Hell no its not cheating ,I'm 2 months shy of turning 60 and in the best shape of my life!
 
Hell no I love it and I bust my ass to get the results.. If you could take it not do shit turn into the hulk that would be a different story.. You have to put in hard work though!!!!
 
Guys this is me who made this thread, for some weird reason a mod banned me thinking i was trolling cause my user name was trolling ef lolz.. This is a legitimate question and its not a troll, some people cant take a joke..
btw when i was juicing my eating habit was very bad and i was not as dedicated as i am right now, but i could latpulldown 280lb for 6 reps and bent over row 295 for 7 reps, and my bw was 175lb at that time, now im 229lb, much bigger but i can only do 270lb for 7 reps on pulldown and bent ver row 275 for 6 reps, not to mention that was almost 2 years ago.. Now im extremely dediacted and eating 7 meals a day training very hard but im not the superman i was 2 years ago.. Just remember this is only me, everyone is different.. The dedication it takes to get big and strong naturally is much harder in my opinion like i said everyone is different, if you train hard right now and recover fast just remember its the steroid helping, btw i aint anti steroid i might take another cycle in the future not a strong steroid, i might go with 30-50 mg anavar, thats all just for the heck of it, hehe..
 
for some reason? How about you have been banned several times and keep making alters to *gasp* troll EF and the mods? So you are using alters to avoid a ban.

One of your alters was an account pretending to be our head mod, needto (with a similar name), and you made a thread called: "SPECIAL OFFER FROM ME needtogetaas" in which you made defamatory statements about needto, and linked a defamatory website.

Care to try again you fucking troll?
 
for some reason? How about you have been banned several times and keep making alters to *gasp* troll EF and the mods? So you are using alters to avoid a ban.

One of your alters was an account pretending to be our head mod, needto (with a similar name), and you made a thread called: "SPECIAL OFFER FROM ME needtogetaas" in which you made defamatory statements about needto, and linked a defamatory website.

Care to try again you fucking troll?

Bwahahahahaha! Nice

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Now why would you go and throw away all that good juice? THAT is steroid abuse and its just wrong. I KEEP THE MAJORITY of my gains on aas, theres nuthing fake about the hard work and dedication that I put in the gym. Both on cycle and off my gains are a result of me busting my ass day in day out.
On my cycle of sustanon250 and anavar, i felt really guilty and ashamed of myself for cheating to get bigger and stronger and i always told myself why not work hard naturally so i can be proud of my results, im not gonna lie i had good results during my cycle but then i was thinking to myself the results im getting is fake muscle and strength its not my hard work, so i stopped the cycle and threw all my gear in the garbage.. btw this was last year and i have not looked back..

Does anyone else feel the same?



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In the words of Kai Greene, "I'm living my life, I'm doing it. What are you?" right and wrong is based on your own morals and societal norms. I decide what's cheating and what isn't in my life. This is what makes me happy. Sounds to me like you don't know who you are yet. So sit on the sidelines till you figure it out.
 
I never feel guilty. I have to work just as hard as my training partner that is going natural and i also stick to a very strickt diet just like the natural guys. Besides, i know proffesional rugby players that use AAS.
 
On my cycle of sustanon250 and anavar, i felt really guilty and ashamed of myself for cheating to get bigger and stronger and i always told myself why not work hard naturally so i can be proud of my results, im not gonna lie i had good results during my cycle but then i was thinking to myself the results im getting is fake muscle and strength its not my hard work, so i stopped the cycle and threw all my gear in the garbage.. btw this was last year and i have not looked back..

Does anyone else feel the same?

There was a time when I thought like this. Exactly how u put it. I always told my self I'd never take steroids that id work for my gains naturally.. but it came to a point where I thought, fuck it. I want more... And let me tell u its not cheating when ur competing against other juicers, steroids is all part of the competition, it just what makes the sport extreme!

I enjoy it, I take it seriously. I put a lot of time, money and effort into it, am I gonna feel guilty and ashamed because of that? Hell no. Never. I'm a juicer and I'm proud of it!

I always remind myself what Arnold once said, u gotta do what makes u happy, even if it seems crazy to other people u gotta do what makes u happy..
 
i watched a little WWE last night and those guys look like they are juiced to the gills. able to pick up guys over their head and throw them across the ring.. its incredible. but they also work their butts off training for that. the conditioning and strength they have to possess isn't as easy as taking a magic pill. this is why steroids is so maligned, too many people think that is the case.
 
Ive been busting my ass for 20 years naturally. It took me a long ass time to get to where Im at. I am no monster, but can hold my own in the mirror, and in the gym. But I have come to a sticking point where I need to go a new route. I have hit my genetic potential. I eat my ass off, train my ass off, and still no major gains in the last year. Now's the time. DOn't feel guilty, just make sure your busting your ass and have a great base, and got your nutrition on point. Do what you gotta do.
 
Guilty? Ashamed? Dude you didn't drown a litter of kittens. All the food and hard training makes you grow, do you feel ashamed eating chicken haha. If gear was legal you would feel fine..... So fuck it, get over it and have another pin
 
I think it's just a matter of choices. If you dont think AAS is for u, then dont take it. If u feel taking gear is cheating, how about taking whey protein...
gear---> testosterone levels
whey---> protein intake
u guys get what i mean...it's the same logic.
 
ye i agree with torch! If you think AAS is cheating, where does it stop? is extra protein cheating? supplements? Its everyone personal opinion. I mean ive done one cycle and i cant wait to get my next? It give me a good ego, confidence. Just overall felt happier. It was an odd feeling i suppose, just like im improving myself for me. Its all good.
 
Opposite. I have done the ground work to get to where I'm at, no one did a damn thing for me and I take the risks. I am willing to do more than anyone else to get what I want, and that makes me feel like a fuggin boss.
 
All I got to say is: WORK HARD, WORK SMART! Why solve a bunch of formulas by hand when you have excel, is that cheating?? I use EVERYTHING at my disposition that gives me an edge over the next guy, it ain't easy baby, but it sure is rewarding!!
 
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