dnp is absolutely insane..

[GoldenDelicious]

I am telling you guys. Use dnp - dinitrophenol - with Insulin. Let me break it down for you like this.
1. Insulin is the most anabolic drug we have access too. Problem is its anablism is not tissue specific. Tis means alot of good bros ue insulin and get the marshmellow man syndrome.
a. Slin stimulate the SPP which increases nutrient transport into cells
- Obviously we need increase amino acid delivery to suprephysiological levels in order to facilitate the greatest possible gains in muscle size.
b. Slin increases anabolism and RNA activity
c. Slin is also beleived to increase DNA activity in a way that causes up-regulation in DNA initiated AA syntesis.
d. THE AA's primarily affected are the BCAA's
e. Slin inhibits protein breakdown by interfereing with lysosomes. unfortunately Slin also inhibits fat loss.

So imagine we have a way to get al the muscle building benefits of Slin without the fatty syndrome happening. Good news! Enter a deadly chemical called Dinitrophenal!

DNP
1: Oxidative phosphorylation uncoupler
a. lowers the effiecnc of this to about 40%( lots of ATP-ATP conversion)
- to keep up levels of ATP the body goes into hyperdrive; metabolism increased, incredible amounts of KCals are burned. Due to this dire need for ATP producion most of the calories come from fat. So the good news is very very little or no musce is lost as long as protein intake is adequate.
b. By preventing oxidative metabolism increased energy demands are contested in cells by increaseing glucose uptake rapidly( about 200% normal in SKELETAL MUSCL CELLS). remind you anything of Insulin?!?!/ ok now we are catching on.
c. Scientictif studies have suggested interfereing with Mitochondrial TP production acts o signal transduction pathway form independant from that of insulin. This basically means that our muscles will have a trememndous capacity to metabolise glucose(nearly twice what insulin gives us without the concurrent fat gains)
d. DNP helps to induce an environment of insulin resistance in Fatty tissue sites making it harder for the fat cells to get food.


So basically DNP increases caloric heat expendature, increases glucose transport into msucle cells and decreases fat cell activity.

DNP/Insulin combo
1. Interestingly enough utilizing these compounds together will result in dramatic increase of LBM and a disticnt LACK of hypoglycemia. Great news! Dying from insulin induced hypoglycemia sucks! How does this work?
a. Basically DNP truncates the N-terminal aspect of Insulin when it comes into contact. This results in a growth factor called DES (1-3) IGF-1. FYI that molecule is far more anabolic than IGF-1.
b. The insulin and IGF-1 receptors themselves are changed(truncated) by the prescnece of DNP. In this case this truncation is effecting the COOH-terminal response thus altering the hypoglycemic and anabolic effects of insulin positively toward IGF-1 activity.


ok, thats it
all that being said. I wouldnt recommend trying it.

on the flipside, if youre using insulin to shuttle all of the nutrients out of your blood, and simultaneously using dnp to burn everything up, then youre running the risk of not having enough available fuel, which would mean...collapse. organ shutdown. unfun stuff like that

 

[Phaded]

played in a basketball game tonight.. was so out of breath at one point had to shut it down mid way through second quarter..

hopefully its the dnp i really hope to god i'm not that out of shape..

 

[borris]

LOL @ Java throwing a temper tantrum about me

Golden, my 3rd cycle on D.N.P. I finally figured out how to diet and nutrition myself correctly when I seen those results. I went from 215 11%bf to 200 9-9.5%%bf in 20 short days and then I lost another 5lbs the first week after I came off (mostly just water retention)

I completely cut carbs from my diet 4 days before I started to deplete my glycogen so the D.N.P. would start working immediatly. I ate low low low fats, mediocre-high carbs from days 5-20

overloaded on these:
Magnesium
Vitamin C
Vitamin E
NAC
Calcium

I took an appetite supressor called phentermine to kick food cravings - which probably was the biggest advantage, gave me amazing energy and made all foods taste like shit

I also took 80mgs T-3 daily since D.N.P. shuts down your natural T-3 production

I was doing lots of light cardio (inclined walking on a tredmill/eliptical) for an hour each day with only a 30-45 min. lift



Extremely impressed by the overall results, but every D.N.P. cycle i've ran, I have never realized the results until a week or so after i've come off..

 

[javaguru]

ya borris is much more jacked than homoguru and doesn't revolve his life around being negative and trying to convince others that God is fake..

I'm more jacked than you and I don't juice.... You're doing something wrong...maybe you should pray harder.....

Seeing the world as it really is as opposed to living in delusion isn't negative.....

 

[javaguru]

LOL @ Java throwing a temper tantrum about me

You're easy to provoke which is important for e-entertainment....phaded is more fun to provoke....

 

[GoldenDelicious]

People are saying that now? LOL, pathetic how easily misinformation spreads like a wildfire across the forums.

i know, drives you mad sometimes. ive wanted to change my name on the forums a few times but the only reason i didnt was to leave a bunch of posts around from a consistent username (mine) belonging to a pharmacist and so hopefully leave a few islands of factual data amidst a sea of bullshit

LOL @ Java throwing a temper tantrum about me

Golden, my 3rd cycle on D.N.P. I finally figured out how to diet and nutrition myself correctly when I seen those results. I went from 215 11%bf to 200 9-9.5%%bf in 20 short days and then I lost another 5lbs the first week after I came off (mostly just water retention)

I completely cut carbs from my diet 4 days before I started to deplete my glycogen so the D.N.P. would start working immediatly. I ate low low low fats, mediocre-high carbs from days 5-20

overloaded on these:
Magnesium
Vitamin C
Vitamin E
NAC
Calcium

I took an appetite supressor called phentermine to kick food cravings - which probably was the biggest advantage, gave me amazing energy and made all foods taste like shit

I also took 80mgs T-3 daily since D.N.P. shuts down your natural T-3 production

I was doing lots of light cardio (inclined walking on a tredmill/eliptical) for an hour each day with only a 30-45 min. lift



Extremely impressed by the overall results, but every D.N.P. cycle i've ran, I have never realized the results until a week or so after i've come off..

if you started out at 11% and got down to a minimum of 9% obviously means that you lost 2%bf, which at an initial bodyweight of 215 translates to about a 4-4.5lb fat loss, wich would take you down to 210.5 minimum, so theres still 10lbs of mass unnaccounted for. i suppose dnp will flush your intestines out pretty hard (its a gastric irritant, and so acts like a laxative, really) which will lose you another handful of pounds, and i suppose another bunch of pounds would be intramuscular water/glycogen/dermal water etc....yeah i suppose taht works. how much muscle do youthink you lost? got pics?

(i have pics. i really should match up my pics with my poundages and post them somplace)

ive never combined t3 with dnp (although thats what youd do ideally...im just concerned about my heart tissue) but id say thats what made your cycles so efficacious...what doses were you running, how did you vary them, did you do taht crazy "double your dose on day 3" (insane imo) that people tend to do...do you have anything more to add?

 

[all the whey]

I'm more jacked than you and I don't juice.... You're doing something wrong...maybe you should pray harder.....

Seeing the world as it really is as opposed to living in delusion isn't negative.....

It is not helping.

 

[javaguru]

ya borris is much more jacked than homoguru and doesn't revolve his life around being negative and trying to convince others that God is fake..

I saw his pics at 203......


This is me at 245 and non-juiced or drugged in any way......

Pulling 613.....

 

[GoldenDelicious]

borris is disgustingly ripped and must be shot on sight, i have decided lol

(well done bro. if you do dnp again, do me a fave and take pics. i will shortly )

 

[borris]

i know, drives you mad sometimes. ive wanted to change my name on the forums a few times but the only reason i didnt was to leave a bunch of posts around from a consistent username (mine) belonging to a pharmacist and so hopefully leave a few islands of factual data amidst a sea of bullshit


if you started out at 11% and got down to a minimum of 9% obviously means that you lost 2%bf, which at an initial bodyweight of 215 translates to about a 4-4.5lb fat loss, wich would take you down to 210.5 minimum, so theres still 10lbs of mass unnaccounted for. i suppose dnp - dinitrophenol - will flush your intestines out pretty hard (its a gastric irritant, and so acts like a laxative, really) which will lose you another handful of pounds, and i suppose another bunch of pounds would be intramuscular water/glycogen/dermal water etc....yeah i suppose taht works. how much muscle do youthink you lost? got pics?

(i have pics. i really should match up my pics with my poundages and post them somplace)

ive never combined t3 with dnp - dinitrophenol - (although thats what youd do ideally...im just concerned about my heart tissue) but id say thats what made your cycles so efficacious...what doses were you running, how did you vary them, did you do taht crazy "double your dose on day 3" (insane imo) that people tend to do...do you have anything more to add?

yes, most of my weight loss was mostly water.

The only time I run it is to get rid of stubborn parts of bodyfat that I have and water pockets. Phentermine helped a great bit in sense because I was only consuming 1500 cals at about 7 small meals a day when I was on and had no appetite for sweets/salts whatsoever

I can say i've never felt any loss in muscle/strength during because I was always on some type of andro at the time specifically because I didn't want my muscle going into a catabolic state.