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sweeden

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I hate to bring up such a controversial topic yet again. I've done a lot of research, read just about every message board topic about it here and other places and I can't seem to make up my mind....

I'm a gal and I just ordered some dnp. I've lost about 50 lbs on my own so far with diet and exercise, but I've hit a plateau for quite some time now and it just ain't workin for me. My weight has always been a big part of my life and I'm at the point where I need to just get it off and maintain it. When I heard about dnp, it was almost like a heaven sent miracle. I feel I've read enough about it to do it as safely as possible. I just want to do one cycle. See how it goes. If it goes well, I'd wait a while, give my body a rest and do just one more and keep the maintainence. I've even taken some time off from work to deal with the side effects properly. Maybe I'm naive about how this works.

I guess I'm looking to see if there were any women out there who have taken it and to maybe provide a little help or insight as to how to use it. I know I'm going to get the million responses about how I shouldn't take it, but right now I'm a bit dead set on it...rather than bash it, advice on how to make it a successful experience would be nice.

Thanks!
 
That last woman i read about taking it died,And im sure someone could link it up,Don't get me wrong i like dnp the sides are not even that bad for me.
 
Well to respond to both of you....

First of all, I've been heavy all my life. It's affected every aspect and until you've gone through that you don't realize how difficult it is. I'm still a virgin here...I mean, at this point, yeah sad to say...but I'd take something that risky to get a result.

And secondly I think I read that article as well. Did she die because she was a girl and took it or did she die because she was a girl who didn't do her homework and took too much?
 
There is quite a long checklist of things to look out for if you are going to run DNP

Here is afew off the top of my head

1. 3-5 mg per kg of BM. This can still be very dangerous, however I find it is much more comfortable than 6-8(which is deadly)
2. never run DNP for more than 18 consecutive days
3. Drink at LEAST a gallon of water a day to aid with cooling and flushing of catabolic waste
4. Dont avoid carbs
5. Avoid excessive cardio/ high intesity training while on
6. Utilization of powerful anti-oxidants while on is wise
7. Glutamine will help with cravings.
8. Dose no more than 100 mg every 4-6 hours or 200 mg every 8 hours
9 Monitor your body temp several times a day 99-100 is preferable



thats a start. I am sure some good bros will feel free to chime in
 
Well, you could do a low dose, longer duration cycle...... 200 mg/day for 30 days... I would wait until winter though. The heat is intolerable in the summer... trust me, I am looking at my bottle right now.... I would be a mess in this weather though...
 
Wulfgar said:
There is quite a long checklist of things to look out for if you are going to run DNP

Here is afew off the top of my head

1. 3-5 mg per kg of BM. This can still be very dangerous, however I find it is much more comfortable than 6-8(which is deadly)
2. never run DNP for more than 18 consecutive days
3. Drink at LEAST a gallon of water a day to aid with cooling and flushing of catabolic waste
4. Dont avoid carbs
5. Avoid excessive cardio/ high intesity training while on
6. Utilization of powerful anti-oxidants while on is wise
7. Glutamine will help with cravings.
8. Dose no more than 100 mg every 4-6 hours or 200 mg every 8 hours
9 Monitor your body temp several times a day 99-100 is preferable



thats a start. I am sure some good bros will feel free to chime in
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That's a good start as Wulfgar mentioned and drink V8 to keep hydrated. Also have Benedryl on hand for any rushes that may develop. If it does, lower the dosage take benedryl for few days then up dosage slowly again.
It is IMO best to do this in the winter or at least when it's cold out and try to avoid doing dnp in the summer. THe heat will really catch up to you
Good luck
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I have a pack of benadryl, a bunch of gallons of water, v8...all that good stuff at my place already. I told you I did my homework. The time I took off from work will help too I think. Anything else you think that is important...let me know.
 
have you considered getting your stomach stapled?
might be a better long term option then ingesting pesticide on a regular basis
 
I'm not getting my stomach stapled. I've lost most of the weight already, I just need to get rid of 30-40 more lbs. Ingesting a pesticide sounds better than invasive surgery at the moment too. And a heck of a lot cheaper.

Obviously you've never had a weight problem, centy. There are far more shameful things than taking a pill. I can deal with shame like a pro. :)
 
even if the dnp works what is going to keep the weight u lose off when your done with the dnp? u will gain it right back if your diet and excercise program are not in check. patience is key. u didnt gain all the weight at once and you wont lose it at once. there are less dangerous options than dnp
 
Well what is the best thing you could get that's easy to find other than dnp? I'm open to sugguestions.

There's no guarantee I would keep the weight off after using it, but there's no guarantee I'll keep the weight I've already lost off either. I guess I just had the mentality that seeing the results would motivate me more.
 
I am not going to tell you not to use it. It sounds like you have made up your mind. However you should have you diet/excercise in place so that you can maintain your results. What I mean is you need to make sure your lifestyle will support your new body. No need risking your life on something that you aren't prepared to maintain.

It's not a diet, it's a lifestyle!

Be blessed and be safe!
 
sweeden said:
Obviously you've never had a weight problem, centy. There are far more shameful things than taking a pill. I can deal with shame like a pro. :)
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Wrong.

8 years ago, I was a disgusting fatbody. I was ashamed of myself and decided to turn my life around.

And I did. By busting my ass. Fixed my diet. Joined a gym (never worked out once before in my life.) Did cardio. Tons of it. I got help from personal trainers and a nutritionist. The weight went away - slowly but surely.

I've lost 75 lbs of fat and gained tons of muscle. I'm now proud to walk around with my shirt off.

You can do it. And when you do, you will feel terrific.

And don't think of dnp as just a pill. It's a very dangerous chemical that I deal with in an industrial setting because of my occupation. It is very scary stuff.
 
Girl, please pm me. I have a lot of experience with people in your situation & have had a lot of success. It is very possible to accomplish your goals and more. DNP can help but supervision by a vet IMO is essential to saftey. Lets talk.
 
ive used dnp and it works for sure .. but i dont agree with woman use .. i think its to strong for a woman .. most of the bad stories about use seem to involve a female ..skip it and do it the right way
 
sweeden, it sounds like you have done your homework and are not looking for a quick fix which is great. If you use it intelligently it is a very safe and effective compound, there is just less room for error compared to other supps. please pm me if you even have the slightest question as i have used it several times.

Wulfgar had very good points, in addition i think it is best to start off with 200mg's upon waking for your first time. don't forget it is fat soluble so your next run will be stronger then your first.

One VERY important thing to remember is to take 3-5 grams of vitamin c everyday. DNP has been shown to increase the risk of developing cataracts in women without taking appropriate steps. But if everything is done right it is a great compound. Not like thermogenics where you need to worry about adrenal fatigue, beta receptor down regulation, etc, or recovering from t3. Those work great and are safe if used right as well, but everything has its place.
 
sweeden said:
I hate to bring up such a controversial topic yet again. I've done a lot of research, read just about every message board topic about it here and other places and I can't seem to make up my mind....

I'm a gal and I just ordered some dnp. I've lost about 50 lbs on my own so far with diet and exercise, but I've hit a plateau for quite some time now and it just ain't workin for me. My weight has always been a big part of my life and I'm at the point where I need to just get it off and maintain it. When I heard about dnp, it was almost like a heaven sent miracle. I feel I've read enough about it to do it as safely as possible. I just want to do one cycle. See how it goes. If it goes well, I'd wait a while, give my body a rest and do just one more and keep the maintainence. I've even taken some time off from work to deal with the side effects properly. Maybe I'm naive about how this works.

I guess I'm looking to see if there were any women out there who have taken it and to maybe provide a little help or insight as to how to use it. I know I'm going to get the million responses about how I shouldn't take it, but right now I'm a bit dead set on it...rather than bash it, advice on how to make it a successful experience would be nice.

Thanks!
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Hi hun, what a first post.

I was wondering how long you have plateaued for?

Would you mind having a few experts take a look at your diet and training routine to see if there is any way we can tweek it to have it work for you?

Some people love DNP, some people hate it, but just to give you some of the negatives I have heard about it

1. You will feel like warmed over shite while on it, you won't be able to do much at all.

2. As your body thinks it is starving, then rebound (fat regain +++ more) is highly possible, even with a tight diet and cardio. I have heard this from quite a few women.

We have a women's section, I would love it if you took the opportunity for us to help you with your goals.

Myself and Thandie have both dropped to 10-14% bodyfat naturally, and I know in my case, I have done it without even using any herbal fatburners or caffeine.

And yes, I have been a fattie before too.

I have posted pics to prove it as well.

:D
 
sweeden said:
I hate to bring up such a controversial topic yet again. I've done a lot of research, read just about every message board topic about it here and other places and I can't seem to make up my mind....

I'm a gal and I just ordered some dnp. I've lost about 50 lbs on my own so far with diet and exercise, but I've hit a plateau for quite some time now and it just ain't workin for me. My weight has always been a big part of my life and I'm at the point where I need to just get it off and maintain it. When I heard about dnp, it was almost like a heaven sent miracle. I feel I've read enough about it to do it as safely as possible. I just want to do one cycle. See how it goes. If it goes well, I'd wait a while, give my body a rest and do just one more and keep the maintainence. I've even taken some time off from work to deal with the side effects properly. Maybe I'm naive about how this works.

I guess I'm looking to see if there were any women out there who have taken it and to maybe provide a little help or insight as to how to use it. I know I'm going to get the million responses about how I shouldn't take it, but right now I'm a bit dead set on it...rather than bash it, advice on how to make it a successful experience would be nice.

Thanks!
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I can defenitely help you lose weight with a DIET. You can do it. You don't need to take anabolics that may harm your life. It doesn't make sense. This in not the only path for you..
 
thandie said:
I can defenitely help you lose weight with a DIET. You can do it. You don't need to take anabolics that may harm your life. It doesn't make sense. This in not the only path for you..
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL Bless your cotton natural socks

I may have to get you up to speed on a few drugs hun, it is the Lao Tzu philosophy I follow.

:)
 
Tatyana said:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL Bless your cotton natural socks

I may have to get you up to speed on a few drugs hun, it is the Lao Tzu philosophy I follow.

:)
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Lao Tzu's the man. Fight club ripped him off. The first rule of the Tao is you can't speak about the Tao lol!
 
i cant understand how you could want to pollute your uteris and ovaries like that. women need to stay healthy to make healthy babies. taking poison is not a route i would even consider if you want to have children.
 
Tatyana said:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL Bless your cotton natural socks

I may have to get you up to speed on a few drugs hun, it is the Lao Tzu philosophy I follow.

:)
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For sure!!!
 
you really shouldn't think of any compound like a "heaven sent miracle"... you're always giving up something for whatever results you gain
 
Would you like to see my before and after pics?

That is before 4 kids and after 4 kids?

I had a boob job and 12" of loose skin removed (that no amount of dieting and exercise could ever change) - NO DRUGS...

And now as I am about to turn 41 I have maintained the same clothing size for 10 years.

Please reconsider. Come and join the women's forum. We would LOVE to have you join us!!!! :)

DNP is VERY VERY dangerous. It saddens me to think that you would risk your life to lose a few pouns. :(
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Would you like to see my before and after pics?

That is before 4 kids and after 4 kids?

I had a boob job and 12" of loose skin removed (that no amount of dieting and exercise could ever change) - NO DRUGS...

And now as I am about to turn 41 I have maintained the same clothing size for 10 years.

Please reconsider. Come and join the women's forum. We would LOVE to have you join us!!!! :)
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watch this one. shes all nice and then when youre not looking, boom. she sticks her finger in your butt. just saying.
 
timtim said:
watch this one. shes all nice and then when youre not looking, boom. she sticks her finger in your butt. just saying.
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Not hardly. You have me confused with someone who lacks a backbone.

When I come after someone, they have been duely warned. If they heed the warnings not, then I shoot them RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES. :biggrin: As I smile widely sayin', "That's right... and it's MRS QUEEN BITCH TO YOU."

:lmao:
 
i cut-n-pasted this from an earlier post by me (I used a 235 man--for you the numbers are much much worse)to demonstrate that the line between what dose will work and what dose will likely cause permanent damage or kill you is too close to even consider taking. period.

while asprin can be fatal in doses over 55,000 mg (88x-166x therapeutic dose) (assume 235lb man)

 dnp can be fatal at 1g-3g* ( <1x-7x doses taken by bbs)

with a possibilty that the line between fat loss and death is less than 1x the dose taken and the product produced by an UG, how can that be even considered safe to take or being able to used in a safe manner by any stretch? esp when ........

 the signs and symptoms of acute poisoning are the same as expected for fat loss**

and btw, don't take asprin while on dnp***


*The fatal dose in adults is about 1 to 3 g by mouth, and 3 g has proved fatal even in divided doses over a period of 5 days. [Gosselin, R.E., R.P. Smith, H.C. Hodge. Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products. 5th ed. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1984., p. III-157; The acute fatal dose of dinitrophenol /SRP: Unspecified mixture of isomers/ is approximately 1 g.[Dreisbach, R.H. Handbook of Poisoning. 11th ed. Los Altos, CA: Lange Medical Publications. 1983., p. 127}

**Signs and symptoms of acute poisoning in human beings include nausea, restlessness, flushed skin, sweating, rapid respiration, tachycardia, fever, cyanosis, and finally, collapse and coma. The illness runs a rapid course; death or recovery occurs within 24 to 48 hours. If production of heat exceeds the capacity for its dissipation, fatal hyperthermia may result. Hardman, J.G., L.E. Limbird, P.B. Molinoff, R.W. Ruddon, A.G. Goodman (eds.). Goodman and Gilman's The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics. 9th ed. New York, NY: McGraw-Hill, 1996., p. 1691


***"Salicylates, which contain a phenolic group, must be avoided during treatment for exposure to dinitrophenols." [Hardman, J.G., L.E. Limbird, P.B. Molinoff, R.W. Ruddon, A.G. Goodman (eds.). Goodman and Gilman's The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics. 9th ed. New York, NY: McGraw-Hill, 1996., p. 1691]
 
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boychimalochi said:
It truly amazes me how 99% of the posts including 4 mods say NO, yet when someone is set on doing something.......
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I am one to believe that we're free to do what we want to. However in this case, not only most people were saying how dangerous this drug is, but sweeden herself appeared not to care what kind of damage it did to her as long as she lost the weight she wanted. In addition, we know that once the drug is off her system, she'll not only gain the weight back, but a lot more then when she started. Look at every case individually my friend..
 
thandie said:
I am one to believe that we're free to do what we want to. However in this case, not only most people were saying how dangerous this drug is, but sweeden herself appeared not to care what kind of damage it did to her as long as she lost the weight she wanted. In addition, we know that once the drug is off her system, she'll not only gain the weight back, but a lot more then when she started. Look at every case individually my friend..
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I am also of that opinion. I am all about sharing knowledge, not scaring some one *just because I think it is right or it is wrong*.

THE FACT REMAINS THAT THIS STUFF IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS ... even when it is "used properly" (whatever that means).

There have been several posters who understand the lady's frustration. I know, I do but there are ways to BETTER HEALTH. Back in the day when I would personal train I used to tell all of my clients pointblank, "If you think hiring me will help you get into a negative jeans size then I am not the one for you. I don't believe in helping anyone to tear their bodies down *just to get skinny*. Now if you are into becoming healthier, gaining strength and over-coming obstacles that have held you back from attaining these goals before and you are willing to do YOUR PART then I will be more than happy to guide you and kick your butt when you need it and cheer you on every step of the way. The fact that you will also better like what you see in the mirror is merely *a positive side effect* :) !"

Ya'll would be shocked as to how many people refused to sign on the dotted line when I was so straight up with them as they were "only looking for the miraculous easy path." They thought that because I looked a certain way that this meant I had some great big secret that I would share...

I DO have "the secret"... TO BETTER HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE but NOT TO GETTING SKINNY REGARDLESS OF THE PRICE. As far as I am concerned the temporary skinny is not valuable enough when the price is your health and quality/length of life.

Is that making sense to the thread originator?

We actually CARE what happens to you, today and every day thereafter. :rose:
 
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