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Dermacrine for PCT is a scam.
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niv
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im not for or against derma.. but isnt it wierd that THE SAME 3 PEOPLE ALWAYS PUSH AND DEFEND IT?? have some tact fellas..
im not for or against derma.. but isnt it wierd that THE SAME 3 PEOPLE ALWAYS PUSH AND DEFEND IT?? have some tact fellas..
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duuh.... what? Did I miss something?
-Pp
duuh.... what? Did I miss something?
-Pp
al420
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Nice current cycle - you should have thrown a few more compounds in for fun....
CURRENT CYCLE
WEEK
1-2 Dbol 50mg ED
1-16 Test E 750mg wk
1-16 EQ 600mg wk
6-16 Tren 600mg wk
16-20 Winny 100mg ED
16-20 Anavar 80mg ED
21-25 PCT
This place is already as downhill as it can get - the bottom is near.... I wish I weren't so much better than most of you.
Hey Samoth - WTF are we to do?
Nice current cycle - you should have thrown a few more compounds in for fun....
CURRENT CYCLE
WEEK
1-2 Dbol 50mg ED
1-16 Test E 750mg wk
1-16 EQ 600mg wk
6-16 Tren 600mg wk
16-20 Winny 100mg ED
16-20 Anavar 80mg ED
21-25 PCT
This place is already as downhill as it can get - the bottom is near.... I wish I weren't so much better than most of you.
Hey Samoth - WTF are we to do?
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odoyal rulez
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i dont endorse dema..but show some proof..
i dont endorse dema..but show some proof..
Bruce
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ive heard some things from some very reliable sources who tested it but i'm just gonna shut up. however, i will continue to see if people i know use it and like it. but threads like this are crap. post up your reasoning don't just spout off
ive heard some things from some very reliable sources who tested it but i'm just gonna shut up. however, i will continue to see if people i know use it and like it. but threads like this are crap. post up your reasoning don't just spout off
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not sure who the "same three people are", but I'm on my 20th day and have seen some desirable effects.
For me at least the product seems to be have more of an androgenic rather than an anabolic effect. Contrary to my measurements of a week ago, I appear to have actually only gained at most 1lb of lbm (despite having eaten large quantities of groceries), but my strength has gone up signficantly faster than normal, even very stubborn body parts. Focus and drive in the gym has been exemplary as well.
not sure who the "same three people are", but I'm on my 20th day and have seen some desirable effects.
For me at least the product seems to be have more of an androgenic rather than an anabolic effect. Contrary to my measurements of a week ago, I appear to have actually only gained at most 1lb of lbm (despite having eaten large quantities of groceries), but my strength has gone up signficantly faster than normal, even very stubborn body parts. Focus and drive in the gym has been exemplary as well.
needtogetaas
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lol@this thread.
lol@this thread.
needtogetaas
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dont worry about it samoth..I have found the aas board has 10x the drama then c&c bro...there is more fights,more stalkers,more emo's,and by far more people that live to just follow some one around and argue just for the sake of arguing.lol its great I love it.samoth said:
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I must have been mistaken in my belief that people argued about, you know, steroids in the anabolic forum, lol.
I wonder if the derma scam poster is going to come back and actually post something substantive on this thread...
needtogetaas said:
I must have been mistaken in my belief that people argued about, you know, steroids in the anabolic forum, lol.
I wonder if the derma scam poster is going to come back and actually post something substantive on this thread...
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odoyal rulez
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actually he was upset that Needto pretty much owned him in the plats thread and wanted to be a douchebag...
actually he was upset that Needto pretty much owned him in the plats thread and wanted to be a douchebag...
needtogetaas
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you kidding me bro.he only made this thread because he is mad at me for bombing him.so he thinks I give a shir if he makes a thread like this about derma...big fucking deal...I bombed his ass because he is a dip shit.he came into a thread were I was giving away free plats and said I was doing it to sell derma.lol the dame thread was 10 pages long with no word of derma till he showed up acting like a dumb ass.I have given out free plats in threads like that for years now.I have given out well over 3,000,000 in free plats and not one time did I say a thing about derma in any of them threads but he just kept going with it so I bombed his fucking ass.ill keep fucking bombing his ass to for as long as he is here now to.not for derma but for "me" because I just dont like the guy.samoth said:I must have been mistaken in my belief that people argued about, you know, steroids in the anabolic forum, lol.
I wonder if the derma scam poster is going to come back and actually post something substantive on this thread...
needtogetaas
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ding dingodoyal rulez said:
needtogetaas
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you to.a creed said:
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odoyal rulez
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Clomid/Aifm/HCG....nuff said...
but, as more tests get posted here, i bet derma wouldnt be too bad to use coming off PCT as a bridge between cycles...
Clomid/Aifm/HCG....nuff said...
but, as more tests get posted here, i bet derma wouldnt be too bad to use coming off PCT as a bridge between cycles...
needtogetaas
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to each his own bro.if you have not tried it you really cant say much.to this day there is only one person that has used it and not got much from it.I don't care really.I used it loved it and I am happy i will have it ready for my next pct.nor really much to fight about any more.krishna said:
krishna
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Not fighting, just stating an opinion. I've heard some arguments that the DHEA is converted to test so it's hard to say whether or not you're really recovering at all. It could just be that the DHEA is becoming test and elevating your levels instead of your own body producting it on its own. I'd rather know I'm recovered, and pay a lot less too.
needtogetaas said:
Not fighting, just stating an opinion. I've heard some arguments that the DHEA is converted to test so it's hard to say whether or not you're really recovering at all. It could just be that the DHEA is becoming test and elevating your levels instead of your own body producting it on its own. I'd rather know I'm recovered, and pay a lot less too.
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This is an issue we addressed in the new formula. There was a vast difference in the amount of DHEA > test conversion among our later testers… so we developed Dermacrine sustain without the DHEA or preg... which will be ready this monday.
The new formula will be riding entirely off of the Phyto-AI complex and the SERM activity of the resveratrol. This will be much easier to base results off of as it wont have the potential DHEA conversion to test. The DHEA can have positive effects during PCT, but we realized we just cant control the different peripheral enzyme activity among the users so we had to release a formula without it.
The new Sustain is going to go head-to-head with clomid and nolva. We are upping our production and trying to reduce costs … this should bring down the cost of the product and make it more affordable.
On a side note, resveratrol has shown some real cool effects in the most recent research on it… morphological changes in muscle mitochondria showing increases in muscular performance by increased mitochondrial density…drug like increases. Its pretty cool stuff...
-Pp
krishna said:
This is an issue we addressed in the new formula. There was a vast difference in the amount of DHEA > test conversion among our later testers… so we developed Dermacrine sustain without the DHEA or preg... which will be ready this monday.
The new formula will be riding entirely off of the Phyto-AI complex and the SERM activity of the resveratrol. This will be much easier to base results off of as it wont have the potential DHEA conversion to test. The DHEA can have positive effects during PCT, but we realized we just cant control the different peripheral enzyme activity among the users so we had to release a formula without it.
The new Sustain is going to go head-to-head with clomid and nolva. We are upping our production and trying to reduce costs … this should bring down the cost of the product and make it more affordable.
On a side note, resveratrol has shown some real cool effects in the most recent research on it… morphological changes in muscle mitochondria showing increases in muscular performance by increased mitochondrial density…drug like increases. Its pretty cool stuff...
-Pp
needtogetaas
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I love all the derma threads good or bad there all great.Primordial Performance said:
chazk
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controversy sells
True I rember passion for the christ .I could have cared less about it.Untill people started saying on t.v bad things about it then good things.then the roman catholic church made comments they they didnt kill jesus ,then christians blamesd the jews then jews said it was the romans and christians turned him over to the romans...everyone kept pointing the finger so I had to see what all the talk was about
guess what We dished out 18$ and went to go see it..
so all the controversy actually sold the movie
i suspect the same with derma people will want to try it for themselves..
needtogetaas said:I love all the derma threads good or bad there all great.
controversy sells
True I rember passion for the christ .I could have cared less about it.Untill people started saying on t.v bad things about it then good things.then the roman catholic church made comments they they didnt kill jesus ,then christians blamesd the jews then jews said it was the romans and christians turned him over to the romans...everyone kept pointing the finger so I had to see what all the talk was about
guess what We dished out 18$ and went to go see it..
so all the controversy actually sold the movie
i suspect the same with derma people will want to try it for themselves..
off_safety
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this is why this isnt locked yet. its good for business for someone to say it sucks, and then errone shooting him down. very lame that he has nothing to back up his statement.
oh, yeah-$18 to see a movie!! night shows are $9 where i live. a 32 oz soda costs about $5, tho.
chazk said:
this is why this isnt locked yet. its good for business for someone to say it sucks, and then errone shooting him down. very lame that he has nothing to back up his statement.
oh, yeah-$18 to see a movie!! night shows are $9 where i live. a 32 oz soda costs about $5, tho.
njmuscleguy
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So I want to make sure that I'm not going to screw this up.... you had told me to run the original Derma for the first 2 weeks of my PCT and then switch over to Sustain for 4 more weeks. Does this still fly? I'm applying the original to my thighs and stomach, as instructed to lessen the conversion of DHEA to test. I don't want to further suppress myself.
Thanks!
So I want to make sure that I'm not going to screw this up.... you had told me to run the original Derma for the first 2 weeks of my PCT and then switch over to Sustain for 4 more weeks. Does this still fly? I'm applying the original to my thighs and stomach, as instructed to lessen the conversion of DHEA to test. I don't want to further suppress myself.
Thanks!
Primordial Performance said:
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Another classic Derma hating thread started from someone that hasn't experienced it yet.
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Another classic Derma hating thread started from someone that hasn't experienced it yet.
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needtogetaas
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derma by making threads like this but they are only feeding the fore...keep it up.the products its self is awesome and it only takes just one try to see this so it dont mater how or why some one tries it just that they do use it once they do bam they love it.
ding ding....no matter how much you fight it people are going to try it.after that its all up to the poeple who try it.I have and I loved it.I cant wait to try the derma sustain and the new dermathermal to.people think they are hurtingchazk said:
derma by making threads like this but they are only feeding the fore...keep it up.the products its self is awesome and it only takes just one try to see this so it dont mater how or why some one tries it just that they do use it once they do bam they love it.
needtogetaas
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dame rights move it over there then move it to c&c then I will post a cock pick and we can move it to p/o/m and hip up almost the hole board.lolCO B-man said:
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Yeah same plan.
Its the build up of test after several weeks (from the DHEA) that may cause an issue. The origanal derma will kinda act like a bridge and give you a kick start... so when you switch to derma sustain it will kick up the LH & FSH and you will be well on your way to recovery.
-Pp
njmuscleguy said:
Yeah same plan.
Its the build up of test after several weeks (from the DHEA) that may cause an issue. The origanal derma will kinda act like a bridge and give you a kick start... so when you switch to derma sustain it will kick up the LH & FSH and you will be well on your way to recovery.
-Pp
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Youd be getting the original derma... the sustain will be ready on monday, along with a newly designed website and a 48hr only $20 off discount...
-Pp
tin2 said:
Youd be getting the original derma... the sustain will be ready on monday, along with a newly designed website and a 48hr only $20 off discount...
-Pp
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Ya, so I can get 3 32oz sodas for $15, which means I save $3 and I don't have to sit through a shitty movie, I can just sit outside with my 3 sodas and hit on the 13 year olds goin to the movies. Take that movie theatre!!!
off_safety said:
Ya, so I can get 3 32oz sodas for $15, which means I save $3 and I don't have to sit through a shitty movie, I can just sit outside with my 3 sodas and hit on the 13 year olds goin to the movies. Take that movie theatre!!!
KrackerJam
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yep, gotta buy both or it will not work.
a creed said:
yep, gotta buy both or it will not work.
needtogetaas
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nooooo he is just doing a test with him thats all.KrackerJam said:
needtogetaas
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no only if taken a long time.thats why you only need one bottle 4 weeks worth is all you need...tin2 said:
a creed
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OK - so will "Sustain" take over for the old formula?
So you can get "just" as effective results using the Sustain as you would using both?
I just want to see whether the Sustain is taking over for the new formula, or whether it is an "added" part of the Derma protocol.
OK - so will "Sustain" take over for the old formula?
So you can get "just" as effective results using the Sustain as you would using both?
I just want to see whether the Sustain is taking over for the new formula, or whether it is an "added" part of the Derma protocol.
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Ok, let me clarify,
Both Dermacrine and Dermacrine Sustain are going to stay. There were several reasons for removing the DHEA/preg and creating the new derma sustain – It wont contain any banned substances in any athletic organizations, it can now be shipped to Canada, and it will be a better option for people who do not do well with high DHEA levels. (semi-anxiety)
It also seems that in small percentage of users, Dermacrine becomes such a powerful testosterone booster, that it can eventually suppress LH & FSH to some degree. This is due to a unpredicted variance in 17b hSD levels in different subjects and the peripheral conversion rate of DHEA > T. This issue can be partly side-stepped by applying to different application spots, but some guys simple convert more DHEA > test no mater how they use Dermacrine – so we removed the DHEA. Derma Sustain will be fool proof, and wont force testosterone levels into the super-physiological range, and since we will be using a higher concentration of the Phyto-AI complex it will be better for increasing LH & FSH, and hence PCT.
With that said, we think Dermacrine Sustain alone for PCT would be fine, whereas those that have the money could start with original derma for a couple weeks, and then switch to sustain for a smoother recovery, since the sustain may take longer to kick test levels back in, whereas the original derma has the immediate DHEA support. Either way, we always promote guys to use hCG on cycle as this will make for a faster recover to mater what you use for PCT.
So, the original Derma will be marketed as a pure androgen (testosterone) booster that will quickly get your levels past the high/normal range, whereas the new Derma Sustain will be marketed for PCT which would just get your levels to the high/normal range….sustain should also end up having a stronger effect on libido, erectile function, and who knows… it could just end up being a better product all around. Time will tell.
-Pp
Ok, let me clarify,
Both Dermacrine and Dermacrine Sustain are going to stay. There were several reasons for removing the DHEA/preg and creating the new derma sustain – It wont contain any banned substances in any athletic organizations, it can now be shipped to Canada, and it will be a better option for people who do not do well with high DHEA levels. (semi-anxiety)
It also seems that in small percentage of users, Dermacrine becomes such a powerful testosterone booster, that it can eventually suppress LH & FSH to some degree. This is due to a unpredicted variance in 17b hSD levels in different subjects and the peripheral conversion rate of DHEA > T. This issue can be partly side-stepped by applying to different application spots, but some guys simple convert more DHEA > test no mater how they use Dermacrine – so we removed the DHEA. Derma Sustain will be fool proof, and wont force testosterone levels into the super-physiological range, and since we will be using a higher concentration of the Phyto-AI complex it will be better for increasing LH & FSH, and hence PCT.
With that said, we think Dermacrine Sustain alone for PCT would be fine, whereas those that have the money could start with original derma for a couple weeks, and then switch to sustain for a smoother recovery, since the sustain may take longer to kick test levels back in, whereas the original derma has the immediate DHEA support. Either way, we always promote guys to use hCG on cycle as this will make for a faster recover to mater what you use for PCT.
So, the original Derma will be marketed as a pure androgen (testosterone) booster that will quickly get your levels past the high/normal range, whereas the new Derma Sustain will be marketed for PCT which would just get your levels to the high/normal range….sustain should also end up having a stronger effect on libido, erectile function, and who knows… it could just end up being a better product all around. Time will tell.
-Pp
gjohnson5
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Sorry , I've been away for a few weeks.
I didn't want to say anything on this subject because the formulas we working for me.
Anyway this is a very valid point krishna. I liked these topical DHEA products for the very reason that dhea is converted to test. This is exactly what I wanted in the weight room. I have noticed not so much with this , but more with AIFM that I can actually get shrinkage from using the product. But since AIFM was never marketed as a PCT product, I guess that makes sense.
I was hoping they'd keep the formula high in DHEA. My philosophy on PCT is that you should definitely take products with some anabolic potential to lessen if not completely stop muscle loss while you recover. People always advocated using clen during PCT. If one does the normal PCT (clomid / nolva / HCG) along with dermacrine or something similar , why would that be a bad idea?
Man I would ask Jenetic these questions if he still posted here....
Sorry , I've been away for a few weeks.
I didn't want to say anything on this subject because the formulas we working for me.
Anyway this is a very valid point krishna. I liked these topical DHEA products for the very reason that dhea is converted to test. This is exactly what I wanted in the weight room. I have noticed not so much with this , but more with AIFM that I can actually get shrinkage from using the product. But since AIFM was never marketed as a PCT product, I guess that makes sense.
I was hoping they'd keep the formula high in DHEA. My philosophy on PCT is that you should definitely take products with some anabolic potential to lessen if not completely stop muscle loss while you recover. People always advocated using clen during PCT. If one does the normal PCT (clomid / nolva / HCG) along with dermacrine or something similar , why would that be a bad idea?
Man I would ask Jenetic these questions if he still posted here....
krishna said:
gjohnson5
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The part in bold is me all the way. Any dhea product gives me pimples and the topicals are alot worse for me. I get a little shrinkage from dermacrine , but as I said it's very noticeable on AIFM
The part in bold is me all the way. Any dhea product gives me pimples and the topicals are alot worse for me. I get a little shrinkage from dermacrine , but as I said it's very noticeable on AIFM
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needtogetaas
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good point.lets not forget they help the board a lot.georgie24 said:
Phenix500us
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What is the discount code for the sustain?
Primordial Performance said:
What is the discount code for the sustain?
needtogetaas
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it will be posted latter tonight when pp is back on.Phenix500us said:
KrackerJam
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I fully support the Roid Store. Best products out there!
georgie24 said:
I fully support the Roid Store. Best products out there!
needtogetaas
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I think the roid store serves a purpose.At least for me any way....if I get halled into court for aas and my post,threads,or pm's on ef come into ??? I will just say
I thought we were all talking about the roid store.Thats what I thought I was getting.See look there it is......also ef can say the same.lol we had no Idea are members were taking real aas we thought they were all talking about our sponsor the roid store.
are you saying ag guys or derma or any of the others are like them....lets not kill them all for the one.KrackerJam said:
I think the roid store serves a purpose.At least for me any way....if I get halled into court for aas and my post,threads,or pm's on ef come into ??? I will just say
I thought we were all talking about the roid store.Thats what I thought I was getting.See look there it is......also ef can say the same.lol we had no Idea are members were taking real aas we thought they were all talking about our sponsor the roid store.
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We don't mind people speaking their minds, but attacking and/or bashing will not be tolerated.
You have till this time tomorrow to post a reasonable argument that can be brought into discussion.
Thanx.
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You have till this time tomorrow to post a reasonable argument that can be brought into discussion.
Thanx.
needtogetaas
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best post ever.Big Rick Rock said:
needtogetaas
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dame right.for both us and the site.shit I think I may put in my sig that every thing I am talking about is from the roid store just to be on the safe side.D_Mac said:You know what needto... your right. Never looked at it like that but I guess they do serve as one of the best legal buffers we could have on here.
blut wump
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To be fair, when he posts up and says that it hasn't worked, there's not really much that he can add. Either it worked and he recovered or it failed and he hasn't.
To be even fairer, however, that isn't what he posted; he merely posted up saying that it doesn't work along with a personal recommendation as to a course of action to follow, albeit a negative one.
To be even fairer, however, that isn't what he posted; he merely posted up saying that it doesn't work along with a personal recommendation as to a course of action to follow, albeit a negative one.
KrackerJam
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blut wump said:
one of the problems with people here is if a sponsers product does not work for you and you post that, you are seen as "bashing" it. We all know that every product does not work for everyone
floridalife
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yup... EXACTLY
needtogetaas
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he never even used it....he has even said this himself on many threads,,,KrackerJam said:
KrackerJam said:
I don't think that is true, but there may be some truth in it.. Most/some of you don't really know me, but i post on alot of other steroid boards, mod at many of them, but when i asked to test this product, it was under the condition that i place on all products i review. (not that i am some big so and so) If a product does not yield the results that the manufacturer claims i have stated that in the past.
I also state in my logs person perceptions of the products and how they effect my day to day life..
This product in discussion here i am currently reviewing, as per my log on it, you can see that i like the effects, there is some discussion as how it can be run in addition to some idea's i have. But we will see how that goes..
Using inflammatory comments is not the way to review a product, if it did not yield the results the person was expecting, we must 1st review what their expectations were.
Hope that helps
boston789 said:
If that was test prop, you could start now, but if it was test enanthate you may want to wait a week.
-Pp
blut wump said:
Blut,
The original starter of this thread has never used the product, he was upset with needto for bombing him so he thought that starting this thread would be a good way to retaliate.
-Pp
blut wump
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I should stay out of threads that don't concern me.
I'd like to make it clear here that I was not making any comment as to the efficacy of Dermacrine. I've not used it myself and have no personal experience of its potency.
All the reports I've read of the product have been positive and I'm aware of no reports of anyone's having used the product without satisfaction. Furthermore, some of the people on here whom I hold in respect have posted that they view the product with favour.
I'd like to make it clear here that I was not making any comment as to the efficacy of Dermacrine. I've not used it myself and have no personal experience of its potency.
All the reports I've read of the product have been positive and I'm aware of no reports of anyone's having used the product without satisfaction. Furthermore, some of the people on here whom I hold in respect have posted that they view the product with favour.
blut wump
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Test E - 4.5 days halflife. As a rough and ready guide for typical dosages, look to around 3.5 half-lives. Less for a low-dose, more for higher.mm107 said:
I always run my cycle through a half-life calculator and start actual PCT when I calculate that my exogenous daily uptake drops into the 5-7mg range. With nandrolones and trenbolone, I think it's worth timing PCT to be when they are close to eliminated.
boston789 said:
No, you used the HCG just at the right time. It will be clearing from your system within the next few days and will allow your testis to re-sensitize to an LH signal.
The only thing you will want to do next time is run 250iu EOD thoughout the cycle rather than waiting till the very last couple weeks.
-Pp
KrackerJam
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needtogetaas said:he never even used it....he has even said this himself on many threads,,,
I was making more of a general comment. It's pretty obvious this chump never used it, he just wanted to try to piss people off.
boston789 said:
Sure, that would be fine.
-Pp
needtogetaas
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well to this date there has only bin one member to try derma and have nothing to say about it,and no one flamed the guy in the lest bit.thats jackangle and I think he was using it in a severely low calorie diet.KrackerJam said:
needtogetaas said:well to this date there has only bin one member to try derma and have nothing to say about it,and no one flamed the guy in the lest bit.thats jackangle and I think he was using it in a severely low calorie diet.
I have been off Dermacrine for two days. Just waiting for my test results.
