Deep down I knew Obama would win

[hanselthecaretaker]

Oh well. We'll see where it gets us over the next four years.

I bet these folks in particular are a tad frustrated-

Obama VS. Romney: Military Endorsements


Barack Obama's Military Endorsements:

General Wesley Clark, USA, (Ret)
General Colin Powell, USA (Ret)
Major General Paul Eaton, USA (Ret)
Admiral Donald Gutter, USN, former JAG of the Navy, (Ret)
Admiral John Nathman, USN, (Ret)


Mitt Romney's Military Endorsements:

Admiral James B. Busey, USN, (Ret.)
General James T. Conway, USMC, (Ret.)
General Terrence R. Dake, USMC, (Ret)
Admiral James O. Ellis, USN, (Ret.)
Admiral Mark Fitzgerald, USM, (Ret.)
General Ronald R. Fogleman, USAF, (Ret)
General Tommy Franks, USA, (Ret)
General Alfred Hansen, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Ronald Jackson Hays, USN, (Ret)
Admiral Thomas Bibb Hayward, USN, (Ret)
General Chuck Albert Horner, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Jerome LaMarr Johnson, USN, (Ret)
Admiral Timothy J. Keating, USN, (Ret)
General Paul X. Kelley, USMC, (Ret)
General William Kernan, USA, (Ret)
Admiral George E.R. Kinnear II, USN, (Ret)
General William L. Kirk, USAF, (Ret)
General James J. Lindsay, USA, (Ret)
General William R. Looney III, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Hank Mauz, USN, (Ret)
General Robert Magnus, USMC, (Ret)
Admiral Paul David Miller, USN, (Ret)
General Henry Hugh Shelton, USA, (Ret)
General Lance Smith, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Leighton Smith, Jr., USN, (Ret)
General Ronald W. Yates, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Ronald J. Zlatoper, USN, (Ret)
Lieutenant General James Abrahamson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Edgar Anderson, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Marcus A. Anderson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Buck Bedard, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral A. Bruce Beran, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Lyle Bien, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Harold Blot, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General H. Steven Blum, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Mike Bowman III, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Mike Bucchi, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Walter E. Buchanan III, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Richard A. Burpee, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William Campbell, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General James E. Chambers, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward W. Clexton, Jr., USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General John B. Conaway, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Marvin Covault, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Terry M. Cross, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William Adam Dougherty, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Brett Dula, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Gordon E. Fornell, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral David Frost, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Henry C. Giffin III, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Peter M. Hekman, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Richard D. Herr, USCG, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thomas J Hickey, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Walter S. Hogle, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Ronald W. Iverson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Donald W. Jones, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Douglas J. Katz, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Jay W. Kelley, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Tom Kilcline, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Timothy A. Kinnan, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Harold Koenig, M.D., USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Albert H. Konetzni, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Buford Derald Lary, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Frank Libutti, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Stephen Loftus, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Michael Malone, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward H. Martin, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John J. Mazach, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Justin D. McCarthy, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William McCauley, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Fred McCorkle, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thomas G. McInerney, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Joseph S. Mobley, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Carol Mutter, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Dave R. Palmer, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John Theodore "Ted" Parker, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Garry L. Parks, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Charles Henry "Chuck" Pitman, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Steven R. Polk, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William E. Ramsey, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Joseph J. Redden, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Clifford H. "Ted" Rees, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Edward Rowny, USA (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Dutch Schultz, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Charles J. Searock, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General E. G. "Buck" Shuler, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Alexander M. "Rusty" Sloan, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward M. Straw, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General David J. Teal, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Billy M. Thomas, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Donald C. "Deese" Thompson, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Alan S. Thompson, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Herman O. "Tommy" Thomson, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Howard B. Thorsen, USCG, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William Thurman, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Robert Allen "R.A." Tiebout, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John B. Totushek, USNR, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General George J. Trautman, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Garry R. Trexler, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Jerry O. Tuttle, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Claudius "Bud" Watts, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William "Bill" Welser, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thad A. Wolfe, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General C. Norman Wood, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Michael W. Wooley, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Richard "Rick" Zilmer, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Chris Adams, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Henry Amos, USN (Ret.)
Major General Nora Alice Astafan, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Almon Bowen Ballard, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General James F. Barnette, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Robert W. Barrow, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John R. Batlzer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jon W. Bayless, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John E. Bianchi, USA, (Ret.)
Major General David F. Bice, USMC, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Linda J. Bird, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James H. Black, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Peter A. Bondi, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John L. Borling, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Tom Braaten, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Robert J. Brandt, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jerry C. Breast, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Bruce B. Bremner, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas F. Brown III, USN, (Ret.)
Major General David P. Burford, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John F. Calvert, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jay A. Campbell, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Henry Canterbury, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James J. Carey, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Nevin Carr, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Stephen K. Chadwick, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral W. Lewis Chatham, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Jeffrey G. Cliver, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Casey Coane, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Isaiah C. Cole, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Stephen Condon, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Richard C. Cosgrave, USANG, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert Cowley, USN, (Ret.)
Major General J.T. Coyne, USMC, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert C. Crates, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Tommy F. Crawford, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James P. Davidson, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Kevin F. Delaney, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James D. Delk, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Robert E. Dempsey, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jay Ronald Denney, USNR, (Ret.)
Major General Robert S. Dickman, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James C. Doebler, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Douglas O. Dollar, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Hunt Downer, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Thomas A. Dyches, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Jay T. Edwards, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General John R. Farrington, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Francis L. Filipiak, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James H. Flatley III, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Charles Fletcher, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Bobby O. Floyd, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Veronica Froman, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Vance H. Fry, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral R. Byron Fuller, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral George M. Furlong, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Frank Gallo, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Ben F. Gaumer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harry E. Gerhard Jr., USN, (Ret.)
Major General Daniel J. Gibson, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Andrew A. Giordano, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Richard N. Goddard, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Fred Golove, USCGR, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harold Eric Grant, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Jeff Grime, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Robert Kent Guest, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Tim Haake, USAR, (Ret.)
Major General Otto K. Habedank, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas F. Hall, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Donald P. Harvey, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Leonard W. Hegland, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John Hekman, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John A. Hemphill, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Larry Hereth, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General Wilfred Hessert, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Don Hickman, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Geoffrey Higginbotham, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Jerry D. Holmes, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Weldon F. Honeycutt, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steve Israel, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James T. Jackson, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John S. Jenkins, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Tim Jenkins, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Ron Jesberg, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Pierce J. Johnson, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steven B. Kantrowitz, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John T. Kavanaugh, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Dennis M. Kenneally, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Michael Kerby, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral David Kunkel, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General Geoffrey C. Lambert, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Arthur Langston, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas G. Lilly, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James E. Livingston, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Al Logan, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General John D. Logeman Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Noah H. Long Jr, USNR, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Don Loren, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Andy Love, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas C. Lynch, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steven Wells Maas, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert M. Marquette, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Larry Marsh, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Clark W. Martin, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General William M. Matz, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Gerard Mauer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William J. McDaniel, MD, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral E.S. McGinley II, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Henry C. McKinney, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert Messerli, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Douglas S. Metcalf, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John W. Miller, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Patrick David Moneymaker, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Mario Montero, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Douglas M. Moore, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Walter Bruce Moore, USA, (Ret.)
Major General William Moore, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Burton R. Moore, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James A. Morgart, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Stanton R. Musser, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John T. Natter, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert George Nester, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General George W. Norwood, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert C. Olsen, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Raymund E. OMara, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert S. Owens, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John F. Paddock, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert W. Paret, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert O. Passmore, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Earl G. Peck, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Richard E. Perraut Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Gerald F. Perryman, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral W.W. Pickavance, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John J. Prendergast, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Fenton F. Priest, USN, (Ret.)
Major General David C. Ralston, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Bentley B. Rayburn, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harold Rich, USN , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Roland Rieve, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Tommy F. Rinard, USN , (Ret.)
Major General Richard H. Roellig, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Michael S. Roesner, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William J. Ryan, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Loran C. Schnaidt, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Carl Schneider, USAF , (Ret.)
Major General John P. Schoeppner, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Edison E. Scholes, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert H. Shumaker, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William S. Schwob, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General David J. Scott, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Hugh P. Scott, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Richard Secord, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William H. Shawcross, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Joseph K. Simeone, USAF and ANG , (Ret.)
Major General Darwin Simpson, ANG , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Greg Slavonic, USN , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral David Oliver "D.O." Smart, USNR, (Ret.)
Major General Richard D. Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Donald Bruce Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Paul O. Soderberg, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert H. "Bob" Spiro, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Henry B. Stelling, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Daniel H. Stone, USN, (Ret.)
Major General William A. Studer, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Hamlin Tallent, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Hugh Banks Tant III, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Larry S. Taylor, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General J.B. Taylor, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Thomas R. Tempel, USA , (Ret.)
Major General Richard L. Testa, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jere Thompson, USN (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Byron E. Tobin, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Larry Twitchell, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Russell L. Violett, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General David E.B. "DEB" Ward, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Charles J. Wax, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Donald Weatherson, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John Welde, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Gary Whipple, USA , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James B. Whittaker, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Charles Williams, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral H. Denny Wisely, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Theodore J. Wojnar, USCG, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral George R. Worthington, USN, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Arthur Abercrombie, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John R. Allen, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Loring R. Astorino, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard Averitt, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Garry S. Bahling, USANG, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Donald E. Barnhart, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Charles L. Bishop, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Clayton Bridges, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jeremiah J. Brophy, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General R. Thomas Browning, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David A. Brubaker, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Chalmers R. Carr, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Fred F. Caste, USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert V. Clements, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Christopher T Cline, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General George Peyton Cole, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard A. Coleman, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Mike Cushman, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Peter Dawkins, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Sam. G. DeGeneres, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General George Demers, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Howard G. DeWolf, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Arthur F. Diehl, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David Bob Edmonds, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Anthony Farrington, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Norm Gaddis, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert H. Harkins, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas W. Honeywill, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Stanley V. Hood, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General James J. Hourin, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jack C. Ihle, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas G. Jeter, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General William Herbert Johnson, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Kenneth F. Keller, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Wayne W. Lambert, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jerry L. Laws, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas J. Lennon, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John M. Lotz, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert S. Mangum, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Frank Martin, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Joe Mensching, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard L. Meyer, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Lawrence A. Mitchell, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Michael P. Mulqueen, USMC, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Ben Nelson, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jack W. Nicholson, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Maria C. Owens, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Dave Papak, USMC, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Gary A. Pappas, USANG, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert V. Paschon, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Allen K. Rachel, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jon Reynolds, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Edward F. Rodriguez, Jr., USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Roger Scearce, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Dennis Schulstad, USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John Serur, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Joseph L. Shaefer, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Graham Shirley, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Raymond Shulstad, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Stan Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Ralph S. Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Donald Smith, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David M. Snyder, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Michael Joseph Tashjian, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard Louis Ursone, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Earl Van Inwegen, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Terrence P. Woods, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Mitchell Zais, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Allan Ralph Zenowitz, USA, (Ret.)


http://www.ktrh.com/pages/michaelberry.html?article=10552062
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/11/04/Romney-Garners-Obama-s-Military-Endorsements-Times-100



At least we can still have a few laughs.

(probably the most - or only? - respectable part about Walmart)

 

[psizzle_8]

Love it lol

 

[Fitguy308]

Haha nice bro we will survive

 

[digimon7068]

i'm not even a little bit surprised...oh and...i voted for the other guy

 

[-SD-]

Haha nice bro we will survive

You gotta make it out of the tar first rob

 

[javaguru]

Incumbents win 80% of the time.

 

[smurf2]

You actually believe that list is accurate? You cant be that stupid, no matter how much you hate Obama

 

[75th]

You actually believe that list is accurate? You cant be that stupid, no matter how much you hate Obama

This. Hopefully for the next 4 years well just have hansel posting about video games. I like those posts!

 

[smurf2]

this. Hopefully for the next 4 years well just have hansel posting about video games. I like those posts!

+1

 

[-SD-]

Can I halo 4?

 

[digimon7068]

You actually believe that list is accurate? You cant be that stupid, no matter how much you hate Obama

the only politician in recent memory that i had an actual, borderline hatred for was that fuck-bag arlen specter (the asshole from my state...errrr...commonwealth, who wanted congress to investigate whether the new england patriots cheated by listening in on other teams and the vocal leader of the congressional steroid-gate witch hunt, who finally showed his true colors by switching parties)...cancer collected his stupid ass last month, the day before my birthday...good riddance, you fucking hack.

 

[billfred]

the only politician in recent memory that i had an actual, borderline hatred for was that fuck-bag arlen specter (the asshole from my state...errrr...commonwealth, who wanted congress to investigate whether the new england patriots cheated by listening in on other teams and the vocal leader of the congressional steroid-gate witch hunt, who finally showed his true colors by switching parties)...cancer collected his stupid ass last month, the day before my birthday...good riddance, you fucking hack.

Wait... I am still unclear what you think about Arlen Specter.

 

[billfred]

This. Hopefully for the next 4 years well just have hansel posting about video games. I like those posts!

*we'll

 

[75th]

burn in hell

 

[digimon7068]

Wait... I am still unclear what you think about Arlen Specter.

you're gonna wake up some morning and find me sitting out back in my boxer shorts with a margarita in my hand cooking something in your damn brick oven, fucker.

 

[billfred]

you're gonna wake up some morning and find me sitting out back in my boxer shorts with a margarita in my hand cooking something in your damn brick oven, fucker.

That will be an awesome day and I look forward to it.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

You actually believe that list is accurate? You cant be that stupid, no matter how much you hate Obama

This. Hopefully for the next 4 years well just have hansel posting about video games. I like those posts!

I did have links in the OP-

Obama VS. Romney: Military endorsements | Michael Berry - NewsRadio 740 KTRH Houston News, Weather, Traffic
Romney Garners Obama's Military Endorsements Times 100

Oh well, here's another couple just in case-

The List of Military Endorsements for Mitt Romney-Truth!

Romney unveils list of retired brass supporters - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times

I also like W. H. Gill's comment lol.



Ok now that that's settled, back to videogames.

Coming tonight...Get ready...

 

[smurf2]

somehow none of those links scream "unbiased" to me. funny though, I guess none of that really matters huh? Mitt didn't win. Well, either did my candidate.

 

[-SD-]

somehow none of those links scream "unbiased" to me. funny though, I guess none of that really matters huh? Mitt didn't win. Well, either did my candidate.

*neither

 

[UA_Iron]

I was conflicted... voting Libertarian or for Romney. In the end I voted for Romney, I wanted the lazy to have their dreams crushed (I know not all who voted for Obama are lazy, my parents who make significantly more than me voted for Obama...). I cannot live in a world that breeds a hand-out mentality. That culture is stronger now than ever, and that culture will ruin us.

Deep down we all knew Obama would win.

 

[psizzle_8]

I was conflicted... voting Libertarian or for Romney. In the end I voted for Romney, I wanted the lazy to have their dreams crushed (I know not all who voted for Obama are lazy, my parents who make significantly more than me voted for Obama...). I cannot live in a world that breeds a hand-out mentality. That culture is stronger now than ever, and that culture will ruin us.

Deep down we all knew Obama would win.

We would make very cute, attractive, intelligent, republican babies.

 

[digimon7068]

That will be an awesome day and I look forward to it.

i look good in boxer shorts...your wife will appreciate it...balee dat!

 

[EnderJE]

somehow none of those links scream "unbiased" to me. funny though, I guess none of that really matters huh? Mitt didn't win. Well, either did my candidate.

No. People generally aren't unbiased. Why bother with facts when you have snide remarks and internet posts?

The red states have the highest amount of people collecting welfare and they vote against it. The blue states are generally against war, but yet still vote for it. Who cares? Neither side is even.

 

[EnderJE]

I was conflicted... voting Libertarian or for Romney. In the end I voted for Romney, I wanted the lazy to have their dreams crushed (I know not all who voted for Obama are lazy, my parents who make significantly more than me voted for Obama...). I cannot live in a world that breeds a hand-out mentality. That culture is stronger now than ever, and that culture will ruin us.

Deep down we all knew Obama would win.

You are absolutely right. The red states should go seeing how they have the largest handouts in history.

 

[EnderJE]

We would make very cute, attractive, intelligent, republican babies.

Yay! Are you talking about the new Jesus freak reds? Or the poor ones that continue to scream for handouts? There was a third group there, but their numbers are so low that they hardly count anymore.

 

[smurf2]

No. People generally aren't unbiased. Why bother with facts when you have snide remarks and internet posts?

The red states have the highest amount of people collecting welfare and they vote against it. The blue states are generally against war, but yet still vote for it. Who cares? Neither side is even.

Yep both sides are staunchly supporting stupidity.

 

[psizzle_8]

Yay! Are you talking about the new Jesus freak reds? Or the poor ones that continue to scream for handouts? There was a third group there, but their numbers are so low that they hardly count anymore.

Hmm...I'd say group 3. Definitely not 1 or 2 considering I'm neither..

 

[EnderJE]

Yep both sides are staunchly supporting stupidity.

That happens all the time.

Careful, you're not spreading the vitriol so you'll be lumped into the red or blue camp.

Funny how the camps have switched sides (ie the pro-peace say alot when Bush invaded and say nothing now, the pro-war said nothing when Bush invades and say alot not) and they don't really notice. Actually, nevermind, I shouldn't be surprised anymore.

 

[smurf2]

lol its just a lot of hypocrisy

 

[EnderJE]

Hmm...I'd say group 3. Definitely not 1 or 2 considering I'm neither..

Then you aren't really a republican anymore. It's too bad that GJ didn't win. I think he's got a party that everyone can get around but it's not getting enough press.

 

[psizzle_8]

Then you aren't really a republican anymore. It's too bad that GJ didn't win. I think he's got a party that everyone can get around but it's not getting enough press.

You can't tell me what I am lol but thank you for your input, it's greatly appreciated

 

[digimon7068]

Then you aren't really a republican anymore. It's too bad that GJ didn't win. I think he's got a party that everyone can get around but it's not getting enough press.

i never really was a republican...i used to think i was, until i learned about the libertarian party...it was a long time ago but i remember thinking "omigod! there are other people out there like me!"

 

[EnderJE]

You can't tell me what I am lol but thank you for your input, it's greatly appreciated

You're a cat. A dog. A mouse. A leftie. A righty. But not the middle?

 

[EnderJE]

i never really was a republican...i used to think i was, until i learned about the libertarian party...it was a long time ago but i remember thinking "omigod! there are other people out there like me!"

Something happened to the current parties. Each has been taken over by their own extremes. The third party is bound to happen. Over time, who knows, it will get larger. Ah well.

 

[psizzle_8]

Something happened to the current parties. Each has been taken over by their own extremes. The third party is bound to happen. Over time, who knows, it will get larger. Ah well.

I agree w this

 

[b0und]

Something happened to the current parties. Each has been taken over by their own extremes. The third party is bound to happen. Over time, who knows, it will get larger. Ah well.

The extremes have taken over the Dems?

Who?

Obama is even more centrist than Clinton was, please explain that one.








b0und (huh?)

 

[training700]

That's what has hurt the republican party is letting the right take over to an extent and being so loud.
There is no real left in the democratic party. The equivalent would be a communist or socialist party like there is in many european representation based political systems.

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[javaguru]

Then you aren't really a republican anymore. It's too bad that GJ didn't win. I think he's got a party that everyone can get around but it's not getting enough press.

The press is derisive of the Libertarian Party, they're either portrayed as nutters or the pothead lobby without any mention of principles.

 

[brownbrown]

Hansel - Let me start off by saying I like ya, and don't take this personal

But Shut the FUCK UP. President Obama has done more for Veterans in 3 Years than Bush Did in 8. How the Fuck can you sit there and criticize a President that has Signed numerous Executive orders for veterans.

Fuck your stupid list of "supporters" of Fuck Face Romney.

Read this list of actual Important Shit =

President Obama’s Executive Order

The Executive Order signed by President Obama:

Strengthens suicide prevention efforts across the Force and in the veteran community:
The Executive Order directs the VA to increase the VA veteran crisis line capacity by 50% by the end of the year.
Under the Executive Order, VA will ensure that any veteran identifying him or herself as being in crisis connects with a mental health professional or trained mental health worker within 24 hours or less.
VA will work with the Department of Defense to develop and implement a national 12 month suicide prevention campaign focused on connecting veterans to mental health services.

Enhances access to mental health care by building partnerships between VA and community providers:
In service areas where VA has faced challenges in hiring and placing mental health service providers and continues to have unfilled vacancies or long wait times, the Executive Order Directs the Department of Veterans Affairs to work with the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to establish at least 15 pilot sites. In pilot sites, VA will contract with community health centers, community mental health clinics, community substance abuse treatment facilities and other HHS grantees and community resources to help reduce VA mental health waiting lists.
Under the Executive Order, HHS and VA will develop a plan for a rural mental health recruitment initiative to promote opportunities for VA and rural communities to share mental health providers when demand is insufficient for either to support a full-time provider.

Increases the number of VA mental health providers serving our veterans:
Under the Executive Order, VA will hire 800 peer-to-peer support counselors to empower veterans to support other veterans and help ensure that their mental health care and overall service needs are met.
VA has launched an effort to hire 1,600 new mental health professionals to serve veterans. The Executive Order directs VA to use its pay-setting authorities, loan repayment and scholarships, partnerships with health care workforce training programs, and collaborative arrangements with community-based providers to recruit, hire, and place 1,600 mental health professionals by June, 2013. Since, 2009, the VA has expanded its mental health programs, hiring more than 3,500 mental health professionals since 2009.

Promotes mental health research and development of more effective treatment methodologies:
The Executive Order directs the Department of Defense, the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Education to develop a National Research Action Plan that will include strategies to improve early diagnosis and treatment effectiveness for TBI and PTSD.
The Executive Order further directs the Department of Defense and Department of Health and Human Services to conduct a comprehensive mental health study with an emphasis on PTSD, TBI, and related injuries to develop better prevention, diagnosis, and treatment options.

Launch a government-wide collaborative effort to address these issues through a Military and Veterans Mental Health Interagency Task Force:
The Executive Order establishes an Interagency Task Force, including the Department of Defense, Department of Veterans Affairs, Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Education, the Domestic Policy Council, National Security Staff, the Office of Management and Budget, the Office of Science and Technology Policy, and the Office of National Drug Control Policy, which will make recommendations to the President on additional strategies to improve mental health and substance abuse treatment services for veterans, service members, and their families.

Supporting our Military, Veterans, and their Families
The President has taken key steps to protect and strengthen the health of our military, veterans and their families here at home. Many of these initiatives are supported by agencies across the federal government and collaborative partnerships with states and communities.

Health Care
For the first time ever, 135 medical schools have committed to exchanging leading research on PTSD and TBI and will also train future physicians to better understand veteran health needs. More than 150 state and national nursing organizations and over 650 nursing schools have committed to ensure our nation’s 3 million nurses are prepared to meet the unique health needs of veterans and their families by educating the current and future nurses of America to have a better understanding of PTSD and TBI.
President Obama signed the “caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010”, into law which helps our most seriously injured post-9/11 veterans and their family caregivers with a monthly stipend; access to health insurance; mental health services and counseling; and comprehensive VA caregiver training and respite care.
The Department of Labor has proposed new regulations for the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) to support military families and caregivers. This rule would implement statutory changes to the FMLA, expanding leave to family members caring for veterans who have suffered a serious injury or illness.
In July 2010, the VA published a historic change to its rules, streamlining the process and paperwork needed by combat veterans to pursue a claim for disability pay for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
The VA expanded its workforce by over 2,600 people to handle applications for disability pay. The VA is also using technology and new approaches to help veterans get their benefits by accepting online applications for initial disability benefits, initiating an innovation competition, launching pilot initiatives, and investing over $128 million in a paperless Veterans Benefits Management System.
The administration is utilizing partnerships to reduce the stigma associated with seeking treatment for behavioral health issues. Make the Connection, a campaign launched by the Department of Veterans Affairs, is creating ways for veterans and their family members to connect with the experiences of other veterans and access the information and resources to help these families confront the challenges of transitioning from service to daily civilian life.

Licensing and Credentials
Nearly 35 percent of military spouses in the labor force require licenses or certification for their profession. Many military spouses hold occupational licenses and routinely move across state lines, causing licensing requirements to disproportionately affect the military spouse population. The First Lady and Dr. Biden encouraged all 50 governors to pass legislation by 2014 to reduce the financial and administrative strains that 100,000 military spouses incur from trying to get their state licenses or certification credentials to transfer from state to state as they move. Mrs. Obama and Dr. Biden encouraged governors to take Action in February 2012 when only 11 states had legislation on the books. 26 states now have measures in place to support military spouses and the initiative is on-track to meet the 2014 goal.

Education
The Department of Defense has awarded $180 million in grants to support military-connected public school districts. These grants support improved academic programs for military children. More than 400,000 students from military families across all grade levels are impacted by these grant projects.
The Department of Defense has awarded approximately $25 million to military-connected Local Education Agencies (LEAs) this summer to focus on increasing student achievement and easing transitions through research-based academic and support programs.
The Department of Defense, in collaboration with the Council of State Governments' (CSG) National Center for Interstate Compacts developed the Interstate Compact on Educational Opportunity for Military Children (the Compact) to address the educational transition issues of children of military families. The Compact covers transition issues including class placement, records transfer, immunization requirements, course placement, graduation requirements, exit testing, and extra-curricular opportunities. States adopt the Compact through legislation, and as a result, join the Military Interstate Children’s Compact Commission (MIC3). To date, 39 states have approved the Compact and these states are home to 89 percent of school age children whose active duty parents are assigned to military installations in the United States. We will continue to work with leaders to encourage the 11 remaining states approve the Compact and become members of MIC3.
VA eased the Post-9/11 GI Bill application process within the eBenefits portal, including transferability to spouses or children for service members with over six years of service. Servicemembers can now apply on-line to transfer the benefits of their Post-9/11 GI Bill to eligible beneficiaries.

Housing
On top of the historic settlements completed by the Federal government and 49 state Attorneys General, major mortgage servicers will be providing relief to thousands of service member and veteran households. A review will be conducted of every service member household foreclosed upon since 2006. Those wrongly foreclosed upon will be compensated equal to a minimum of lost equity, plus interest and a refund for money lost because they were wrongfully denied the opportunity to reduce their mortgage payments. Additionally, these organizations will pay $10 million into a VA fund that guarantees loans on favorable terms for veterans.
The Administration is working to end veteran homelessness through leveraging broad support at Federal, State, and local levels in both the public and private sectors. Working with over 4,000 community agencies, the VA and HUD have successfully placed more than 37,000 veterans in permanent housing with dedicated case managers and access to high-quality VA health care since 2009. To ensure we reach out to our homeless veterans, the VA created a National Registry for Homeless Veterans and established a National Homeless Hotline. Veteran homelessness was reduced by nearly 12 percent between January 2010 and January 2011.
In 2011, VA helped save 72,391 Veteran and military borrowers with VA-guaranteed loans from foreclosure, a 10% increase from the prior year. VA has helped nearly 59,000 borrowers avoid foreclosure so far in 2012. The home loan guaranty program helps Veterans and their families purchase homes, often with no down payment required. The program expects to guaranty the 20 millionth loan in early November 2012.
Using their Interest Rate Reduction Refinancing Loan, also known as the Streamline Refinance, VA refinances existing VA loans into new loans with lower interest rates, or adjustable rate mortgages (ARMs) into fixed rate mortgages. In 2011, this program saved an average of $202 per month in individual payment reductions and 1.42% in interest rates. This equates to saving military and veterans $24 million a month and $293 million per year.

Financial Readiness
The Department of the Treasury’s Office of Financial Education and Financial Access has helped military families identify predatory lending practices. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) established an office of service member affairs to ensure that the CFPB addresses the financial challenges that confront military families and strengthens protections against abusive financial practices.

 

[digimon7068]

The press is derisive of the Libertarian Party, they're either portrayed as nutters or the pothead lobby without any mention of principles.

to me it kinda means this..."you are free to live however you like...knock yourself out...but, if you come to my house and try to take any of my shit to feed your lifestyle?? i'll shoot your fucking head off." of course there are a bunch of other aspects to it too, but that one in particular speaks to me.

 

[binö]

Hansel - Let me start off by saying I like ya, and don't take this personal

But Shut the FUCK UP. President Obama has done more for Veterans in 3 Years than Bush Did in 8. How the Fuck can you sit there and criticize a President that has Signed numerous Executive orders for veterans.

Fuck your stupid list of "supporters" of Fuck Face Romney.

Read this list of actual Important Shit =

President Obama’s Executive Order

The Executive Order signed by President Obama:

.

u mad bro?
seems pretty evident mitt had a sizable percent of the military vote
a random poll:
"According to The Military Times poll, 66 percent of service members are going to cast their vote for Romney, to just 26 percent for Obama. In 2008, when the current president was running against John McCain, only 23 percent of the service members surveyed said they were going to vote for him. McCain, a Vietnam war veteran, polled at 68 percent"

now let's say that is off 10-15%...still at least 50% appear to favor mitt.
why would that be, if what you say about O is true?
racism? too dumb to know what is best? what?

 

[binö]

Something happened to the current parties. Each has been taken over by their own extremes. The third party is bound to happen. Over time, who knows, it will get larger. Ah well.

truth.
ask a democrat and he'll say all reps are racist manbgearpigs
ask a gop'er and he'll say their a bunch of racist manbearpigs
their money and influence is so entrenched i don't see a third party happening anytime soon...a parliament seems like a better system, no way would a bush or obama have lasted

 

[RippedCity]

I think what happened in Lybia speaks for its self. Obama sucks at this pace we will be socialist

 

[psizzle_8]

truth.
ask a democrat and he'll say all reps are racist manbgearpigs
ask a gop'er and he'll say their a bunch of racist manbearpigs
their money and influence is so entrenched i don't see a third party happening anytime soon...a parliament seems like a better system, no way would a bush or obama have lasted

Lolol @ manbearpigs. Read this in Gore's voice

 

[brownbrown]

u mad bro?
seems pretty evident mitt had a sizable percent of the military vote
a random poll:
"According to The Military Times poll, 66 percent of service members are going to cast their vote for Romney, to just 26 percent for Obama. In 2008, when the current president was running against John McCain, only 23 percent of the service members surveyed said they were going to vote for him. McCain, a Vietnam war veteran, polled at 68 percent"

now let's say that is off 10-15%...still at least 50% appear to favor mitt.
why would that be, if what you say about O is true?
racism? too dumb to know what is best? what?

No mad at all.
And you still ignored/didn't understand the point of the whole post.

LOL, fuck a magazine poll bro. not to mention the MT poll only asked a few thousand people. There are over 3 Million in the military.

Look at the reality.

What states have the Highest concentration of Military?
Virginia, Florida, California, Maryland, Washington State. And who pulled those states?

 

[training700]

There was a times article awhile back about how the military is beginning to move away from the main culture and is becoming almost entirely conservative party that would primarily vote for a republican candidate anyway

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[binö]

No mad at all.
And you still ignored/didn't understand the point of the whole post.

LOL, fuck a magazine poll bro. not to mention the MT poll only asked a few thousand people. There are over 3 Million in the military.

Look at the reality.

What states have the Highest concentration of Military?
Virginia, Florida, California, Maryland, Washington State. And who pulled those states?

you do some a bit mad bro.
in your estimation what percentag of the military voted obama?
i'd guess 30-35%, mainly e-5 and below.

 

[brownbrown]

you do *some* a bit mad bro.
in your estimation what percentag of the military voted obama?
i'd guess 30-35%, mainly e-5 and below.

Seem

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[brownbrown]

you do some a bit mad bro.
in your estimation what percentag of the military voted obama?
i'd guess 30-35%, mainly e-5 and below.

I'm not going to make up some number out of my ass.

I will say that the military is as diverse as the United States.
It is full of US citizens from all over the United States from different backgrounds, with separate beliefs and values.

The only thing the Military people have in common is the sacrifices they endure for America, and the same employer.

Other than those 2 commonalities they are individuals.


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[-SD-]

Most of the military come from low income brackets. Ive never seen a military billboard trying to recruit in the affluent areas of cities.

 

[brownbrown]

Most of the military come from low income brackets. Ive never seen a military billboard trying to recruit in the affluent areas of cities.

Thats a Myth bro

Myth: The military exploits low-income people by trying to get them to enlist

Military Recruiting Standards | Demographics of Military Personnel

Report: Military Attracts More High Income Than Low Income Recruits - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

Rotc is in A hell of a lot of schools of many demographics.

 

[-SD-]

Thats a Myth bro

Myth: The military exploits low-income people by trying to get them to enlist

Military Recruiting Standards | Demographics of Military Personnel

Report: Military Attracts More High Income Than Low Income Recruits - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

Rotc is in A hell of a lot of schools of many demographics.

Interesting. Then why are all the billboards in the ghetto parts of town? Maybe they respond to billboard type advertising in general or something

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I'm not going to make up some number out of my ass.

I will say that the military is as diverse as the United States.
It is full of US citizens from all over the United States from different backgrounds, with separate beliefs and values.

The only thing the Military people have in common is the sacrifices they endure for America, and the same employer.

Other than those 2 commonalities they are individuals.


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Please don't get the impression I'm trying to be hostile here just by posting a few powerful topics you may not agree with. Too much propaganda gets flung from both directions and does no good. Having said that, it seems the definition of what makes a good military has changed over the years then. Unmentionable intangibles like "uniformity", "discipline" and "one belief" are what used to describe the military. Now I see diverse, separate beliefs, separate values.

Another thing, those military endorsements were of retired Generals and Admirals. There is a distinct difference between that and your sampling spread of "3 million in the military", which could presumably include regular active duty.

Please spare the elaborate lengths to attempt proving how much good Obama has done for the military in the face of it being blatantly obvious the two still don't resonate well with each other. That has to mean something, and something more than mere racism.

 

[brownbrown]

Interesting. Then why are all the billboards in the ghetto parts of town? Maybe they respond to billboard type advertising in general or something

Easy ....Because the billboards are cheaper in the ghetto. Not that hard

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[brownbrown]

Please don't get the impression I'm trying to be hostile here just by posting a few powerful topics you may not agree with. Too much propaganda gets flung from both directions and does no good. Having said that, it seems the definition of what makes a good military has changed over the years then. Unmentionable intangibles like "uniformity", "discipline" and "one belief" are what used to describe the military. Now I see diverse, separate beliefs, separate values.

Another thing, those military endorsements were of retired Generals and Admirals. There is a distinct difference between that and your sampling spread of "3 million in the military", which could presumably include regular active duty.

Please spare the elaborate lengths to attempt proving how much good Obama has done for the military in the face of it being blatantly obvious the two still don't resonate well with each other. That has to mean something, and something more than mere racism.

Question:

Why the hell would anyone give a fuck about what some crusty old retired generals have to say.

Colin Powell supported Obama, doesn't mean Dick IMHO.


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[dred757]

Hansel - Let me start off by saying I like ya, and don't take this personal

But Shut the FUCK UP. President Obama has done more for Veterans in 3 Years than Bush Did in 8. How the Fuck can you sit there and criticize a President that has Signed numerous Executive orders for veterans.

Fuck your stupid list of "supporters" of Fuck Face Romney.

Read this list of actual Important Shit =

President Obama’s Executive Order

The Executive Order signed by President Obama:

Strengthens suicide prevention efforts across the Force and in the veteran community:
The Executive Order directs the VA to increase the VA veteran crisis line capacity by 50% by the end of the year.
Under the Executive Order, VA will ensure that any veteran identifying him or herself as being in crisis connects with a mental health professional or trained mental health worker within 24 hours or less.
VA will work with the Department of Defense to develop and implement a national 12 month suicide prevention campaign focused on connecting veterans to mental health services.

Enhances access to mental health care by building partnerships between VA and community providers:
In service areas where VA has faced challenges in hiring and placing mental health service providers and continues to have unfilled vacancies or long wait times, the Executive Order Directs the Department of Veterans Affairs to work with the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to establish at least 15 pilot sites. In pilot sites, VA will contract with community health centers, community mental health clinics, community substance abuse treatment facilities and other HHS grantees and community resources to help reduce VA mental health waiting lists.
Under the Executive Order, HHS and VA will develop a plan for a rural mental health recruitment initiative to promote opportunities for VA and rural communities to share mental health providers when demand is insufficient for either to support a full-time provider.

Increases the number of VA mental health providers serving our veterans:
Under the Executive Order, VA will hire 800 peer-to-peer support counselors to empower veterans to support other veterans and help ensure that their mental health care and overall service needs are met.
VA has launched an effort to hire 1,600 new mental health professionals to serve veterans. The Executive Order directs VA to use its pay-setting authorities, loan repayment and scholarships, partnerships with health care workforce training programs, and collaborative arrangements with community-based providers to recruit, hire, and place 1,600 mental health professionals by June, 2013. Since, 2009, the VA has expanded its mental health programs, hiring more than 3,500 mental health professionals since 2009.

Promotes mental health research and development of more effective treatment methodologies:
The Executive Order directs the Department of Defense, the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Education to develop a National Research Action Plan that will include strategies to improve early diagnosis and treatment effectiveness for TBI and PTSD.
The Executive Order further directs the Department of Defense and Department of Health and Human Services to conduct a comprehensive mental health study with an emphasis on PTSD, TBI, and related injuries to develop better prevention, diagnosis, and treatment options.

Launch a government-wide collaborative effort to address these issues through a Military and Veterans Mental Health Interagency Task Force:
The Executive Order establishes an Interagency Task Force, including the Department of Defense, Department of Veterans Affairs, Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Education, the Domestic Policy Council, National Security Staff, the Office of Management and Budget, the Office of Science and Technology Policy, and the Office of National Drug Control Policy, which will make recommendations to the President on additional strategies to improve mental health and substance abuse treatment services for veterans, service members, and their families.

Supporting our Military, Veterans, and their Families
The President has taken key steps to protect and strengthen the health of our military, veterans and their families here at home. Many of these initiatives are supported by agencies across the federal government and collaborative partnerships with states and communities.

Health Care
For the first time ever, 135 medical schools have committed to exchanging leading research on PTSD and TBI and will also train future physicians to better understand veteran health needs. More than 150 state and national nursing organizations and over 650 nursing schools have committed to ensure our nation’s 3 million nurses are prepared to meet the unique health needs of veterans and their families by educating the current and future nurses of America to have a better understanding of PTSD and TBI.
President Obama signed the “caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010”, into law which helps our most seriously injured post-9/11 veterans and their family caregivers with a monthly stipend; access to health insurance; mental health services and counseling; and comprehensive VA caregiver training and respite care.
The Department of Labor has proposed new regulations for the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) to support military families and caregivers. This rule would implement statutory changes to the FMLA, expanding leave to family members caring for veterans who have suffered a serious injury or illness.
In July 2010, the VA published a historic change to its rules, streamlining the process and paperwork needed by combat veterans to pursue a claim for disability pay for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
The VA expanded its workforce by over 2,600 people to handle applications for disability pay. The VA is also using technology and new approaches to help veterans get their benefits by accepting online applications for initial disability benefits, initiating an innovation competition, launching pilot initiatives, and investing over $128 million in a paperless Veterans Benefits Management System.
The administration is utilizing partnerships to reduce the stigma associated with seeking treatment for behavioral health issues. Make the Connection, a campaign launched by the Department of Veterans Affairs, is creating ways for veterans and their family members to connect with the experiences of other veterans and access the information and resources to help these families confront the challenges of transitioning from service to daily civilian life.

Licensing and Credentials
Nearly 35 percent of military spouses in the labor force require licenses or certification for their profession. Many military spouses hold occupational licenses and routinely move across state lines, causing licensing requirements to disproportionately affect the military spouse population. The First Lady and Dr. Biden encouraged all 50 governors to pass legislation by 2014 to reduce the financial and administrative strains that 100,000 military spouses incur from trying to get their state licenses or certification credentials to transfer from state to state as they move. Mrs. Obama and Dr. Biden encouraged governors to take Action in February 2012 when only 11 states had legislation on the books. 26 states now have measures in place to support military spouses and the initiative is on-track to meet the 2014 goal.

Education
The Department of Defense has awarded $180 million in grants to support military-connected public school districts. These grants support improved academic programs for military children. More than 400,000 students from military families across all grade levels are impacted by these grant projects.
The Department of Defense has awarded approximately $25 million to military-connected Local Education Agencies (LEAs) this summer to focus on increasing student achievement and easing transitions through research-based academic and support programs.
The Department of Defense, in collaboration with the Council of State Governments' (CSG) National Center for Interstate Compacts developed the Interstate Compact on Educational Opportunity for Military Children (the Compact) to address the educational transition issues of children of military families. The Compact covers transition issues including class placement, records transfer, immunization requirements, course placement, graduation requirements, exit testing, and extra-curricular opportunities. States adopt the Compact through legislation, and as a result, join the Military Interstate Children’s Compact Commission (MIC3). To date, 39 states have approved the Compact and these states are home to 89 percent of school age children whose active duty parents are assigned to military installations in the United States. We will continue to work with leaders to encourage the 11 remaining states approve the Compact and become members of MIC3.
VA eased the Post-9/11 GI Bill application process within the eBenefits portal, including transferability to spouses or children for service members with over six years of service. Servicemembers can now apply on-line to transfer the benefits of their Post-9/11 GI Bill to eligible beneficiaries.

Housing
On top of the historic settlements completed by the Federal government and 49 state Attorneys General, major mortgage servicers will be providing relief to thousands of service member and veteran households. A review will be conducted of every service member household foreclosed upon since 2006. Those wrongly foreclosed upon will be compensated equal to a minimum of lost equity, plus interest and a refund for money lost because they were wrongfully denied the opportunity to reduce their mortgage payments. Additionally, these organizations will pay $10 million into a VA fund that guarantees loans on favorable terms for veterans.
The Administration is working to end veteran homelessness through leveraging broad support at Federal, State, and local levels in both the public and private sectors. Working with over 4,000 community agencies, the VA and HUD have successfully placed more than 37,000 veterans in permanent housing with dedicated case managers and access to high-quality VA health care since 2009. To ensure we reach out to our homeless veterans, the VA created a National Registry for Homeless Veterans and established a National Homeless Hotline. Veteran homelessness was reduced by nearly 12 percent between January 2010 and January 2011.
In 2011, VA helped save 72,391 Veteran and military borrowers with VA-guaranteed loans from foreclosure, a 10% increase from the prior year. VA has helped nearly 59,000 borrowers avoid foreclosure so far in 2012. The home loan guaranty program helps Veterans and their families purchase homes, often with no down payment required. The program expects to guaranty the 20 millionth loan in early November 2012.
Using their Interest Rate Reduction Refinancing Loan, also known as the Streamline Refinance, VA refinances existing VA loans into new loans with lower interest rates, or adjustable rate mortgages (ARMs) into fixed rate mortgages. In 2011, this program saved an average of $202 per month in individual payment reductions and 1.42% in interest rates. This equates to saving military and veterans $24 million a month and $293 million per year.

Financial Readiness
The Department of the Treasury’s Office of Financial Education and Financial Access has helped military families identify predatory lending practices. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) established an office of service member affairs to ensure that the CFPB addresses the financial challenges that confront military families and strengthens protections against abusive financial practices.

Thank u brownbrown, for some REAL FACTS!!! See when you're blinded by racism, hate, rhetoric or comlpete ignorance you cant see the truth!!!!!

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[brownbrown]

Thank u brownbrown, for some REAL FACTS!!! See when you're blinded by racism, hate, rhetoric or comlpete ignorance you cant see the truth!!!!!

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POTUS ain't no Saint, but the man has done his best with the Veterans.
Its funny that no one even acknowledged those things I posted that he DID for the Veterans..... On fucking Veterans Day at that.... Lol
About Par, glad you noticed them.

:cheers:

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[EnderJE]

So, when do we stop blaming the blacks and the socialists and start blaming the Jews and Native Americans?

 

[-SD-]

So, when do we stop blaming the blacks and the socialists and start blaming the Jews and Native Americans?

Right about now rob

fuck yo yarmukel and feathers

 

[psizzle_8]

Right about now rob

fuck yo yarmukel and feathers

Lmao

 

[EarthRider]

lol @ racism being why many of us don't like POTUS

 

[EnderJE]

Right about now rob

fuck yo yarmukel and feathers

Wake me up when we go after the Irish. I have been saving up some potatoes for awhile.

 

[EnderJE]

lol @ racism being why many of us don't like POTUS

Isn't that the usual cry from one side or the other?

lmao @ there being any difference between Romney or Obama

 

[digimon7068]

lol @ racism being why many of us don't like POTUS

if that were true he woodn't be president...39% of white voters voted for him...he couldn't have won without the racist bastards

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Question:

Why the hell would anyone give a fuck about what some crusty old retired generals have to say.

Colin Powell supported Obama, doesn't mean Dick IMHO.


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I kinda feel like I'm old enough to understand why older generations often don't think much of younger ones. Attitude.

Kinda sad how arrogant and all-knowing each successive generation seems to have gotten. No wonder nothing changes.

 

[guesswhoisback]

I kinda feel like I'm old enough to understand why older generations often don't think much of younger ones. Attitude.

Kinda sad how arrogant and all-knowing each successive generation seems to have gotten. No wonder nothing changes.

From one old EF fart to another......true story

 

[binö]

POTUS ain't no Saint, but the man has done his best with the Veterans.
Its funny that no one even acknowledged those things I posted that he DID for the Veterans..... On fucking Veterans Day at that.... Lol
About Par, glad you noticed them.

:cheers:

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for me personally, i view you as a cheerleader for obama so i take what you say regarding this with a grain of bath salts.
every president would claim he was awesome for the military/vets, and every president would have a list of things he did/supposedly did for them.
it's obvious that a portion of the military is not a fan of obama, and that makes me question your proclamations that he is the best thing to ever happen to the military.

 

[EarthRider]

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BB you just have a big mouth and I skip your posts bro

 

[Headholio]

for me personally, i view you as a cheerleader for obama so i take what you say regarding this with a grain of bath salts.
every president would claim he was awesome for the military/vets, and every president would have a list of things he did/supposedly did for them.
it's obvious that a portion of the military is not a fan of obama, and that makes me question your proclamations that he is the best thing to ever happen to the military.

Its simple demographics. Some sectors of society vote republican. Military votes more republican. So what?
What do military generals want? More money, more guns more wars.
What do oil companys want? More drilling less regulation less tax.
Just like most sectors, they vote their own best interest. To me that means nothing.

In fact, the military is too big, and too expensive. The money could be better spent. Billions could be cut with no risk to national security. So, if the military wants a certain candidate, that probably is good reason for me to not pick that candidate.

Obama got more military votes in 2012 than 2008, so at least his rep with the military has gone up. Why? He earned it.

The military is the largest, most tax sucking social program we have. Funny how republicans have no problem supporting a tax sucking social program as long as the beneficiarys are wearing uniforms.

 

[binö]

Its simple demographics. Some sectors of society vote republican. Military votes more republican. So what?
What do military generals want? More money, more guns more wars.
What do oil companys want? More drilling less regulation less tax.
Just like most sectors, they vote their own best interest. To me that means nothing.

In fact, the military is too big, and too expensive. The money could be better spent. Billions could be cut with no risk to national security. So, if the military wants a certain candidate, that probably is good reason for me to not pick that candidate.

Obama got more military votes in 2012 than 2008, so at least his rep with the military has gone up. Why? He earned it.

The military is the largest, most tax sucking social program we have. Funny how republicans have no problem supporting a tax sucking social program as long as the beneficiarys are wearing uniforms.

nothing makes libs more angry than the military or oil companys...lol
and got any proof about the military voting in this election i haven't been able to find any

 

[Headholio]

nothing makes libs more angry than the military or oil companys...lol

I'm in the oil business, so, no oil companies don't make me mad, they pay my bills. I was just saying you need to understand the motivations behind an endorsement.
Military doesn't make me mad either. But in this time when the national debt is SO important according to all repubs, then why are the most obvious solutions off the table with them - raising the too low taxes for the rich, and cutting the HUMUNGOUS military budget?

and got any proof about the military voting in this election i haven't been able to find any

This right wing rag says Obama was polling at 26% military vote against Romney, and got 23% against McCain, which makes sense since McCain is a military ass kisser, and has some legitimate military credibility, and Romney doesn't. But I think it also means Obama's cred has gone up, despite the right wing culture in the military.

Military Poll: Romney Creams Obama by 40 Percentage Points

 

[Headholio]

Here's an interesting website that has polls of military personnel year by year. In 2008 disapproval of Bushes handling of Afganastan was at 31% and in 2012, Obama's disapproval was 37%. That's not that big of a difference considering the right wing bias of the military. And consider that Bush dropped the ball and there was no end in site in 2008, and Obama has actually cleaned up a lot of that mess and is ending it, yet has higher disapproval. Bias.

I also saw that 50% considered themselves republicans in 2008 and 44% in 2012.

Lots of interesting tidbits.

http://www.militarytimes.com/projects/polls/

 

[binö]

headholio, i have more respect for your opinion now having an idea that you are older
you said you were married for 25 yrs...the youngish political science major liberals with no
real world experience, i thought that was you.
and i'm gonna assume those enlisted trend more dem, and those 2nd lt and up more right.
imo, a strong military is a must, and the power of the seas crucial, to our survival and stature.
though i agree some cuts should be made, political gamemanship on part of the reps to declare otherwise...just
like the dems lumping those earning 250k in with millionaires and billionaires, both sides play games to appeal to their bases

 

[javaguru]

headholio, i have more respect for your opinion now having an idea that you are older
you said you were married for 25 yrs...the youngish political science major liberals with no
real world experience, i thought that was you.
and i'm gonna assume those enlisted trend more dem, and those 2nd lt and up more right.
imo, a strong military is a must, and the power of the seas crucial, to our survival and stature.
though i agree some cuts should be made, political gamemanship on part of the reps to declare otherwise...just
like the dems lumping those earning 250k in with millionaires and billionaires, both sides play games to appeal to their bases

 

[brownbrown]

for me personally, i view you as a cheerleader for obama so i take what you say regarding this with a grain of bath salts.
every president would claim he was awesome for the military/vets, and every president would have a list of things he did/supposedly did for them.
it's obvious that a portion of the military is not a fan of obama, and that makes me question your proclamations that he is the best thing to ever happen to the military.

Take the "personality" portion fact out and look at the FACTS.
I agree and disagree with potus on a bunch of shit.
But I can recognize good unbiased good deeds he's done.


NO single PRESIDENT in recent history has done this much for Veterans in one term.

What "presidents say they have done versus FACTS ARE TWO different things.
The real fact is it pains you to acknowledge the fact that Obama has done something extraordinary for the Veterans of Americas longest war.
It pains you .

And by your numbers, he's doing great things for a group that never majority support him.



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I love irony:

Mitt Romney popular vote: 47 percent comments ring true in one way.

As final vote tallies trickle in from straggler districts, Romney currently stands at 47.8 percent of the vote—and analysts predict that New York and California will eventually take that number below 47.5 percent. If that happens, history will place the final 2012 presidential vote margin at 51 percent for Obama, 47 percent for Romney.

I wonder if we'll ever convince these 47% to take control of their lives?

 

[binö]

Take the "personality" portion fact out and look at the FACTS.
I agree and disagree with potus on a bunch of shit.
But I can recognize good unbiased good deeds he's done.


NO single PRESIDENT in recent history has done this much for Veterans in one term.

What "presidents say they have done versus FACTS ARE TWO different things.
The real fact is it pains you to acknowledge the fact that Obama has done something extraordinary for the Veterans of Americas longest war.
It pains you .

And by your numbers, he's doing great things for a group that never majority support him.



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it pains me to believe you, since you are such a rabid obama fan (you throw out you disagree with him but it sounds desultory).
and the legions of military, like those listed by hansel, and those i know personally (a lot in my field), make me believe their is another side to the story that you are not telling in your quest to prove obama is the bestest ever for the military (maybe looming budget and personell costs have something to do with this).