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needingJuice

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It seriously pisses me off to see people mess with it at all. It seems so obsolete in todays gear workd. There are soooo many great alternatives. The gains seem to be fantastic but damn for the sides why not just go tren...and even cut up on top of the muscle mass you would gain?
People are dumb
 
Deca vs tren sides ? Really ?

I use both and alot of both for many years , deca does nothing to me sides wise , nice slow gains over a long period , eq for me is waste of time even at 1200mg a week . Tren is a Completly different animal , I love both but hands down tren has the worst sides out there
 
Anything that's not working at 1200mgs a week is probably bunk? And considering the mass, fat loss, and the fact that tren can do it weeks faster than deca? Yah id say tren is better hands down
 
Deca sides? I can't say I have had any from Deca, not even the notoriously difficult recovery. Tren sides? Lets not even go there.

Comparing the two: ridiculous.
 
What works well for one person might not work well for another, and what gives bad sides for one person might not give any to another. Deca is great for some people, and bad for others. I do think people should be properly prepared if they are going to use it however (prami/caber, great PCT, etc)

For me: Deca=good gains, great mood, no noticeable sides Tren=great gains, terrible mood, hair loss, cystic acne, insomnia, general sense of malaise/feeling unhealthy
therefore for me...deca wins hands down.
 
needingJuice said:
It seriously pisses me off to see people mess with it at all. It seems so obsolete in todays gear workd. There are soooo many great alternatives. The gains seem to be fantastic but damn for the sides why not just go tren...and even cut up on top of the muscle mass you would gain?
People are dumb
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I couldn't agree with you more. Hate the stuff... Gave me the worst sides of any aas I've ever used, and horrible recovery. I'll never touch the stuff again.
 
You know what pisses ME off? When people come in here and think they have the right to call people dumb. Just because sides were bad for you doesn't mean they were bad with someone else. And your using sides as your argument but tren is one of the worst aas, if not THE worst aas for sides. This thread is pointless.
 
Reason are so many AAS for different goals and some things work for one and not for another.
Good reason to be fully knowledgable on anything before putting it into your body so you know what to expect and have all precautions.
 
i can assure my gear is not bunk lol after almost 20 years i know bunk gear and have run eq many times in the hope

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Lol!!!!! OP ... Go research a bit more on HOW both Nandrolone and Trenbolone affect the body, with regards to shutdown and then post back. Regarding actaul, physical sides ... Tren is the absolute worst!
 
zsimpson22 said:
You know what pisses ME off? When people come in here and think they have the right to call people dumb. Just because sides were bad for you doesn't mean they were bad with someone else. And your using sides as your argument but tren is one of the worst aas, if not THE worst aas for sides. This thread is pointless.
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Agree with this, Tren is horrible, however Deca is next in line, But just because you had a bad experience is no reason to knock Deca ,I have even cut on a deca cycle and got great results.
 
anonymity said:
Deca sides? I can't say I have had any from Deca, not even the notoriously difficult recovery. Tren sides? Lets not even go there.

Comparing the two: ridiculous.
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I feel great on deca, shit...i've even cut on it and you would never even think that I was running it, was eating letro like pez tho lol
 
gymjunkie09 said:
I feel great on deca, shit...i've even cut on it and you would never even think that I was running it, was eating letro like pez tho lol
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although I wasn't planning on running it again, a buddy just hooked me up with some deca that's 500mg/ml now I have to otherwise that would just be rude lol :qt:
 
deca actually has very low sides compared to other AAS.

but what happens is guys fail to run the proper ancillaries on cycle. and the estrogen and prolactin build up are the things that end up giving them sides. and its a domino effect. water weight from estrogen will lead to many sides happening.. insomnia, high bp, high HR, feeling lethargic. and then the prolactin sides of deca dick and gyno.

but don't mix up the sides from deca vs. the sides from the estrogen and prolactin you are getting.. its like driving a car and not changing the oil ever, having the engine go bad, then saying that car brand sucks. had you done the proper maintenance on the car you wouldn't of had that problem to begin with.

if you keep the estrogen and prolactin at bay then you will be fine. and don't forget support supps as well. newbs don't know the difference between prolactin and Tin actin, hence they shouldn't touch deca.
 
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needingJuice said:
It seriously pisses me off to see people mess with it at all. It seems so obsolete in todays gear workd. There are soooo many great alternatives. The gains seem to be fantastic but damn for the sides why not just go tren...and even cut up on top of the muscle mass you would gain?
People are dumb
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I completley disagree with u, if u run deca properly you will have no sides at all, in the other hand Tren is like a Pandora box regarding sides, I'm currently runninin it btw.
 
gymjunkie09 said:
I feel great on deca, shit...i've even cut on it and you would never even think that I was running it, was eating letro like pez tho lol
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cause you set it up properly. didn't needto help you set your cycle up? when you have someone who knows what they are doing helping you it makes a huge difference, most newbs have their 'friend at the gym' set up their cycles.
 
^^ you are right OP that newbs run deca way too much. i actually have wondered why newbs love deca so much and i still haven't been able to figure it out. i think its the name DECA.. it sounds like a bad ass steroid .. winny sounds like winnie the pooh.. etc. so newbs see deca and they are like man i need to get that.. plus it is cheaper compared with primo or mast
 
Oh an I've ran Tren before. Let me tell you the WORST sides ever!! Horrible Acne! Bad mood! Thin hair! Never again!!! Tren is not for me. We all just have to try and see what works and what we like and don't like in my opinion.
 
stevesmi said:
deca actually has very low sides compared to other AAS.

but what happens is guys fail to run the proper ancillaries on cycle. and the estrogen and prolactin build up are the things that end up giving them sides. and its a domino effect. water weight from estrogen will lead to many sides happening.. insomnia, high bp, high HR, feeling lethargic. and then the prolactin sides of deca dick and gyno.

but don't mix up the sides from deca vs. the sides from the estrogen and prolactin you are getting.. its like driving a car and not changing the oil ever, having the engine go bad, then saying that car brand sucks. had you done the proper maintenance on the car you wouldn't of had that problem to begin with.

if you keep the estrogen and prolactin at bay then you will be fine. and don't forget support supps as well. newbs don't know the difference between prolactin and Tin actin, hence they shouldn't touch deca.
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So articulate my brother...very nicely stated!

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Deca is one of the best mass builders of all time.

For most people tren has a lot more sides. Shall I name a few sides I don't get from Deca?

Appetite suppression
Back pumps.
Lethargy.
Cardiovascular problems.
Anxiety.
Insomnia.
Mood swings.
 
Oh yah I definitely agree price has a huge factor on its like ability, but Idk of any other aas that has a nickname for shitting on your libido lol deca dick... Oh yah man sign me up for that ignorance in a vial
 
RADAR said:
OUCH!

did someone steal my quote that tren is a pandoras box ? it is.
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RADAR, remember 2Thick? That dude loved deca. lol!
 
TheSVPdeal said:
Funny? Wack is more like it.

Deca has its place and works well when used properly.

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This ^^^^. Man theres nothin better than a 19nor ya just gotta run them right ppl jump into things too quick its funnier than shit bc whats the first cyc we always hear about?

Test tren
Test deca

Why cause those compounds are the shit! Known as some of the best gainers you just gotta take the proper ancrillies.

With exception to tren is the one with harsh sides but sides but shit vit. c has sides, peanuts have sides!

Whatta joke lol
 
I agree with Steve here. Deca is great. I've run Deca,Test, and Tren in a cycle . No problems here. Except Sweat
 
ceo said:
RADAR, remember 2Thick? That dude loved deca. lol!
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lol! Yeah i remember that he was a true advocate for Deca only cycles.
I remember the debates going back and forth on that one.
 
TheRippedReverend said:
This ^^^^. Man theres nothin better than a 19nor ya just gotta run them right ppl jump into things too quick its funnier than shit bc whats the first cyc we always hear about?

Test tren
Test deca

Why cause those compounds are the shit! Known as some of the best gainers you just gotta take the proper ancrillies.

With exception to tren is the one with harsh sides but sides but shit vit. c has sides, peanuts have sides!

Whatta joke lol
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My next cycle is pretty advanced and will include a 19nor. I'll make Fucking sick gains while I shred out.
I think our OP here has gotten the message.

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TheSVPdeal said:
My next cycle is pretty advanced and will include a 19nor. I'll make Fucking sick gains while I shred out.
I think our OP here has gotten the message.

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I finally got my n2slin 

Yea, man I wanna run tren soooo bad this cyc comin up but I just dont know its any of these that I will put together

Sus or prop
Winny
Var
tren

Dont know what I wanna do.
 
needingJuice said:
It seriously pisses me off to see people mess with it at all. It seems so obsolete in todays gear workd. There are soooo many great alternatives. The gains seem to be fantastic but damn for the sides why not just go tren...and even cut up on top of the muscle mass you would gain?
People are dumb
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you don't have any idea what the hell you're talking about,and that's putting it nicely.if you had the shit on hand to combat the sides of deca (which btw are minimal with most people,especially compared to tren)you wouldn't be bitching at all.deca is well known for help with joint pain problems,so don't knock it until you've trained long enough to know wtf you're talking about.
 
TheRippedReverend said:
I finally got my n2slin 

Yea, man I wanna run tren soooo bad this cyc comin up but I just dont know its any of these that I will put together

Sus or prop
Winny
Var
tren

Dont know what I wanna do.
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Here you go Son:

1-10 100mg test prop eod
1-10 100mg proviron ed
1-6 75mg tren ace eod
4-10 30mg MHN ed

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stevesmi said:
cause you set it up properly. didn't needto help you set your cycle up? when you have someone who knows what they are doing helping you it makes a huge difference, most newbs have their 'friend at the gym' set up their cycles.
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yeah needto set that one up for me it was my first....
 
needingJuice said:
It seriously pisses me off to see people mess with it at all. It seems so obsolete in todays gear workd. There are soooo many great alternatives. The gains seem to be fantastic but damn for the sides why not just go tren...and even cut up on top of the muscle mass you would gain?
People are dumb
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I hate deca. Very stupid drug IMO. All it does for me it causes me to become fat, bloated, angry and depressed. How can it not?! It's a fucking progestin. Does anyone know how bad that shit is? STUPID!
 
Smokescreen said:
I hate deca. Very stupid drug IMO. All it does for me it causes me to become fat, bloated, angry and depressed. How can it not?! It's a fucking progestin. Does anyone know how bad that shit is? STUPID!
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Well, it may not be the fault of Deca, but the fault of yours. Several decades ago, the cycle combining Dianabol+Deca was one of the most popular, and there was probably a good reason for this. Now it is a "stupid cycle", because everybody thinks that if he is taking Dianabol, he must take 50 mg/day, and if he is taking Deca, he must take at least 600 mg/week.

I once used Deca alone as a complete novice, and it was effective even at 250-300 mg/week. If I had some problems at higher doses, I would go back to lower dosages and I would add some non-aromatizing steroid. That's just entirely logical.
 
Smokescreen said:
I hate deca. Very stupid drug IMO. All it does for me it causes me to become fat, bloated, angry and depressed. How can it not?! It's a fucking progestin. Does anyone know how bad that shit is? STUPID!
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I don't know about all that. deca changed my body composition permanently. I do agree you will gain fat on it as its very carb dependent and the more carbs you eat with it the better it works. and plus it will raise your hunger for 99% of people when you stack with test and dbol. i went from 7% to 17% body fat over the course of 2 cycles. and added 70 pounds to my bench. and keep in mind i was a strong mofo at 7% body fat for my size so it wasn't like i was pushing newb weight.

did not get depressed on it at all, i felt fantastic. a totally different feeling than on tren when i feel cocky and want to fight everyone like a pit bull going to a dog park type feeling. on deca i feel confident but don't want to pick fights.
 
Never had Deca sides other than bloat. I always run more test than Deca, so no Deca dick. Then I go back on TRT after cycle so fuck recovery. Tren sides were always bad. Moody, night sweats, acne. Well I'm runnin both this time. Along with test and Adrol. Just started last week. This is gonna be fun!
 
At as little as 100mg I feel joint relief on the 3rd day after the first pin. Every time. Very noticable. However even with as little as 100mg wk I blow up like a water balloon and while my dick still pretty much works....the sensitivity is gone.
After about 6-7 weeks on as little as 250-300mg wk I get real bad cystic lower back zits.
Those are my deca sides. I dont care for it and after 3 or so tries with it can definatley say I am done with it. I just threw out probably 10ml.

We must remember that some guys dont get certain sides that others do. One guy might run 200mg wk with ancillaries and get massive water retention, deca dick, ect...and another guy might run 500mg wk with no ancillaries and get zero sides at all.
 
needingJuice said:
It seriously pisses me off to see people mess with it at all. It seems so obsolete in todays gear workd. There are soooo many great alternatives. The gains seem to be fantastic but damn for the sides why not just go tren...and even cut up on top of the muscle mass you would gain?
People are dumb
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Ive used it numerous times in my 20+ years and its never done me wrong. Ive always loved DECA.
 
I used to loce deca.. Im not against using it but I dont love it as much as I used too.. When all I cared about was size and strength it was the shit.. If that is what you are after Test/deca/dbal or beastdrol is the shit... But umm tren is soooooo awesome .. little masteron , prov, test and shit mixed in and deca is a thing of the past for me.. Maybe hit it up again some day though
 
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