Deadlift Form Check . . . again

[ark94]

So did my form suggestions during my deadlift and recorded it. Tried the form suggestions with 260lb. big fail.

Did 225lb. with the suggestions, and it looks to me as my form is still shitty.... suggestions? my ass raises to quick, my back rounds, nothing is in sync.

also got bitched at for when i go down, the weight makes to loud of a sound hitting the ground.......

finally got the video up, stupid internet has been giving my problems for the last 3 days.

 

[JDid23]

after just watching the 260, look at yourself after 8 seconds and look at yourself after 11 seconds. Your ass is too high and i don't think your pushing off of your heels. I might be wrong, but it seems to me like you're only thinking about pulling the weight up, and not all of the other factors (tighten abs, keep shoulder blades contracted, push up off heels and lock out with hips/glutes).

after watching 225, get your ass down and make sure to lockout your hips/glutes simultaneously with your legs. I can't see this part, but make sure the bar is starting on your legs- if it's not your increasing the ROM that the bar has to travel. Honestly, just explode up off of your heels and see how you do- that has helped me a lot

good luck- you're getting a lot stronger.

 

[z66x]

Are you supposed to drop the weight? I always let it hang a little low then go back up

 

[NBAfan#21]

Are you supposed to drop the weight? I always let it hang a little low then go back up

Yeah you should deadlift from the ground on every rep. Thats why its called a dead-lift. Its harder this way and you can't cheat by using momentum. Also make sure not to bounce it off the ground but to actually let the weight rest there for like 2-3 seconds before going back up

 

[JDid23]

Are you supposed to drop the weight? I always let it hang a little low then go back up

in a conventional deadlift, yes. In a romanian/stiff legged deadlift, it's not always optimal imo since for me, it keeps the tension in my hammies get a lot more out of it this way, but some might disagree. Don't touch and go though- especially with heavy weight it's a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[joe d]

no pun intended here. you are way off. id suggest starting from scratch with lighter weight after learning the form. practice it with light weight on cam.

 

[SwitchMan]

lol too much too fast.......but my baby boy is all grown up!!! 5 years from now you'll be the house switchman built.

 

[SwitchMan]

185ish would be a better home for ya right now and more than enough to hurt you in good and bad ways son.

 

[Tblock1]

I think you form looked quite a bit better to me, as this time your back didn't round. Your ass is still rising before the bar though.

 

[ExtraMile]

damn if a woman came up to my during a deadlift set to talk to me I would just ignore her completely how can you have a conversation between reps and still have the focus you need...

 

[z66x]

was that just another woman in the gym doing herthing? or was that staff? i would've told anyone who wasn't staff to get lost

 

[ark94]

version.

damnifawomancameuptomyduringadeadliftsettotalktomeIwouldjustignorehercompletelyhowcanyouhaveaconversationbetweenrepsandstillhavethefocusyouneed...

I couldn't focus on the reps after.... She was such a bitch and wouldn't leave until i did the next reps... Such a bitch

Anyways thanks for the input everyone. I think I will drop down to 185 and work on my form... I could do it today and record it even though i just deadlifted Wednesday... But anyways i will record them next time..

Any suggestions on the problem with my ass raising first? Should in be using my legs sort of squatting it off the ground at first then pulling?
I know a while ago Andalite told me not to squat it off the ground..
Suggestions?


Zx it was a woman who worked there lol

 

[JDid23]

1. get that ass down
2. EXPLODE off your heels
3. lockout glutes/hips the same time you lockout your legs.

 

[zedhed]

Dude! youre working hard and thats great. Follow the advice of the other guys above and your will be golden. Bro I feel sorry for you gettin bitched at about the weight hitting the floor as you were obviously working at setting it down gently.
Fuckin old bitch, it is a workout area, if she wants quiet she should be in a yoga class or 6' under..
Keep up the great effort.

 

[SouthernLord]

version.




I couldn't focus on the reps after.... She was such a bitch and wouldn't leave until i did the next reps... Such a bitch

Anyways thanks for the input everyone. I think I will drop down to 185 and work on my form... I could do it today and record it even though i just deadlifted Wednesday... But anyways i will record them next time..

Any suggestions on the problem with my ass raising first? Should in be using my legs sort of squatting it off the ground at first then pulling?
I know a while ago Andalite told me not to squat it off the ground..
Suggestions?

Zx it was a woman who worked there lol

Your quads are weak. They are the big movers in the first part of the deadlift. Lots of squats and leg presses will fix this over time. Focus now on keeping your chest up and ass down when starting the lift.

Btw,,,,,, Your gym sucks. Maybe you should try and switch to a gym that's a little more tolerant of heterosexuals.

 

[miked8c]

Yeah man I dont know your financial situation but you should really focus on finding a different gym. I know that when I was searching for a gym I checked out two other ones before finding the one I am at know. Both the previous gyms where more geared towards "fitness" as they put it and would not let me deadlift because they felt their clientele, being 60% women, would decline.

I am just saying this because once you get to heavier weights you wont be able to waste energy trying to muffle the sounds of the weight hitting the ground, or grunt which is frowned upon in those types of "fitness establishments". I'm not saying that I am a loud duesh when I lift but you got to be able to let loose on your top set.

Just an observation

 

[Tblock1]

Your quads are weak. They are the big movers in the first part of the deadlift. Lots of squats and leg presses will fix this over time. Focus now on keeping your chest up and ass down when starting the lift.

Btw,,,,,, Your gym sucks. Maybe you should try and switch to a gym that's a little more tolerant of heterosexuals.

Lol! I guess my quads are weak too then cause my ass did the same thing when I maxed out. I know I tried some leg presses and 630x5 felt kind of heavier then I thought it would....so maybe the quads need some work?

 

[SouthernLord]

Lol! I guess my quads are weak too then cause my ass did the same thing when I maxed out. I know I tried some leg presses and 630x5 felt kind of heavier then I thought it would....so maybe the quads need some work?

I think most every one's form sucks on limit sets.

When I started hitting the leg press hard after squats my deadlifts went up. My drive off of the floor increased greatly.

I think hitting the leg press hard (especially if you neglect training it) after squats for a little while will in fact help your DLs and over all leg strength.

 

[ExtraMile]

I think most every one's form sucks on limit sets.

When I started hitting the leg press hard after squats my deadlifts went up. My drive off of the floor increased greatly.

I think hitting the leg press hard (especially if you neglect training it) after squats for a little while will in fact help your DLs and over all leg strength.

I was about to say this too! Take the same stance on leg press as you take on deads.

SL prefers feet higher on the sled I prefer feet lower, so its your choice Tcock

 

[b fold the truth]

Well, I disagree with almost everyone on here.

Almost every single rep AFTER the woman complained to you looked darn near perfect. Your lower back isn't AS ARCHED as theoretically hoped for...but as Jim Wendler says "nobody pulls over 2 plates with form like that anyway".

You know why you missed the 260?
1) There was no way you were going to get it over your knees. Look at your first few tries at the next weight...it came straight up and into your legs. Your shins have to be more up and down at that point. You are trying to do so by straightening your knees when you need to sit back more. Hard to do, especially without a suit and more weight on the bar (relative to your bodyweight).

2) You need a gym that gets you psyched out of your mind hole.

3) You need time and LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of food! You are a 700 lb deadlifter waiting to happen. You have the tools and genetics, you just need the time and training. You need some years...but it is there.

If I were you...I'd make 2 plates my minimum training weight. You could have repped that all freaking day, it wasn't hard. You could easily pull lots of singles with that and with a good form day you would have came up so fast with 260 that you flew backwards.

I'm about to take a 10 week trip to the USA and this kind of place is just my nightmare. That is why I'll always schedule my trainings accordingly (times when I know nobody will be in the gym, be it at 6AM or driving an hour away). You will never be a good deadlifter unless you can get psycho in the gym.

 

[Tblock1]

Well, I disagree with almost everyone on here.

Almost every single rep AFTER the woman complained to you looked darn near perfect. Your lower back isn't AS ARCHED as theoretically hoped for...but as Jim Wendler says "nobody pulls over 2 plates with form like that anyway".

You know why you missed the 260?
1) There was no way you were going to get it over your knees. Look at your first few tries at the next weight...it came straight up and into your legs. Your shins have to be more up and down at that point. You are trying to do so by straightening your knees when you need to sit back more. Hard to do, especially without a suit and more weight on the bar (relative to your bodyweight).

2) You need a gym that gets you psyched out of your mind hole.

3) You need time and LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of food! You are a 700 lb deadlifter waiting to happen. You have the tools and genetics, you just need the time and training. You need some years...but it is there.

If I were you...I'd make 2 plates my minimum training weight. You could have repped that all freaking day, it wasn't hard. You could easily pull lots of singles with that and with a good form day you would have came up so fast with 260 that you flew backwards.

I'm about to take a 10 week trip to the USA and this kind of place is just my nightmare. That is why I'll always schedule my trainings accordingly (times when I know nobody will be in the gym, be it at 6AM or driving an hour away). You will never be a good deadlifter unless you can get psycho in the gym.

Yeah I still am of the opinion that the only thing that matters is that your low back isn't rounded and you don't jerk the bar. Other than that I think it is just personal preference, however I believe ark could lift a little more if he got his leg involved a little more.

 

[b fold the truth]

Yeah I still am of the opinion that the only thing that matters is that your low back isn't rounded and you don't jerk the bar. Other than that I think it is just personal preference, however I believe ark could lift a little more if he got his leg involved a little more.

With his body type and mechanics...I don't think so. As long as he does all of his pulls with out rounding...he is fine. His levers are long and starting with the hips too low will shove his knee fwd...unless he can master the technique of sitting BACK and not down (where a suit helps a lot).

 

[Tblock1]

With his body type and mechanics...I don't think so. As long as he does all of his pulls with out rounding...he is fine. His levers are long and starting with the hips too low will shove his knee fwd...unless he can master the technique of sitting BACK and not down (where a suit helps a lot).

so would you say the same for me? I am 6 foot 195 so on the taller lengthier side and I always thought that all that mattered was not rounding the back. In this video I round my back, which I thought was the only problem. However I got lower the next time (this was my first time going over 380) and I also got tighter and it felt better:



So what would you say I need to adjust? Thanks I really appreciate it. My form is already better cause bblazer gave me some great suggestions before

 

[ark94]

Wow, thanks for the input everyone. And thanks bfold. I guess you answered it, but everyone is different right? So my form is good, but it won't look like somebody elses because my body type is different like you said right? Everyone has there own style when they lift then?


Oh, and here is my new deadlift form check! Here's the video, my 185x5 was shit, but my 225 was a lot better i thought. Then the 260, i had to take a step back, then go get it again after the first rep.





How's it look???

 

[b fold the truth]

Your back is rounded because your hips are too high. You have to find that right spot. I wouldn't go splitting hairs over it as long as you are focusing on getting you core stronger anyway. It does look like your hips are a good bit higher than the other vid posted. Looks also like the bar is a good bit out in front of you too much. Look at the relation between where the bar is AS it starts to break the floor compared to where your shoulders are at the same time. If you sat BACK more you could have some more knee bend and pull BACK instead of up.

This is me last Sunday, sick. Pulling with bands seems to make me have the tendancy to straighten my legs more and more. With the straps down on my suit, there is no benefit for me. All it does is takes away that feeling of wearing clothes that gets in the way when I deadlift.

Watch where I am when I set up to pull. Bar in front a bit, sitting back (not down) and I'm trying to get my shoulders behind the bar. My form is no way textbook technique but I'm trying (Bands make it horrible). Pick up how my hips go back, not up, shins getting more up and down because of it. If one has to start with their knees bent more (because of mechanics) then make sure to pull back and not up. Up means spine, back means hips and hams.



I'm pretty slammed this week, but if you ever need me on video or phone..just let me know. We will find a way to get you sorted out.

 

[ark94]

Your back is rounded because your hips are too high. You have to find that right spot. I wouldn't go splitting hairs over it as long as you are focusing on getting you core stronger anyway. It does look like your hips are a good bit higher than the other vid posted. Looks also like the bar is a good bit out in front of you too much. Look at the relation between where the bar is AS it starts to break the floor compared to where your shoulders are at the same time. If you sat BACK more you could have some more knee bend and pull BACK instead of up.

This is me last Sunday, sick. Pulling with bands seems to make me have the tendancy to straighten my legs more and more. With the straps down on my suit, there is no benefit for me. All it does is takes away that feeling of wearing clothes that gets in the way when I deadlift.

Watch where I am when I set up to pull. Bar in front a bit, sitting back (not down) and I'm trying to get my shoulders behind the bar. My form is no way textbook technique but I'm trying (Bands make it horrible). Pick up how my hips go back, not up, shins getting more up and down because of it. If one has to start with their knees bent more (because of mechanics) then make sure to pull back and not up. Up means spine, back means hips and hams.



I'm pretty slammed this week, but if you ever need me on video or phone..just let me know. We will find a way to get you sorted out.

Was that for me or tblock?

 

[ark94]

Wow, thanks for the input everyone. And thanks bfold. I guess you answered it, but everyone is different right? So my form is good, but it won't look like somebody elses because my body type is different like you said right? Everyone has there own style when they lift then?


Oh, and here is my new deadlift form check! Here's the video, my 185x5 was shit, but my 225 was a lot better i thought. Then the 260, i had to take a step back, then go get it again after the first rep.





How's it look???

Any input on it? I thought they went soo much better. Only thing was i may not have sat back enough, so my hips were a little high but really if i get any lower it really does feel uncomfortable.

 

[Tblock1]

I think that was for you because he says: " It does look like your hips are a good bit higher than the other vid posted" and I didn't post another video hahaha! However I think that advice works for me too If that was for ark though, any specific advice you have for my vid b fold?

 

[b fold the truth]

I think that was for you because he says: " It does look like your hips are a good bit higher than the other vid posted" and I didn't post another video hahaha! However I think that advice works for me too If that was for ark though, any specific advice you have for my vid b fold?

It was for Tblock. I hadn't seen Ark's vids when I posted that. EF was messing up for me last night and I couldn't get vids/pages to load properly.

 

[Tblock1]

It was for Tblock. I hadn't seen Ark's vids when I posted that. EF was messing up for me last night and I couldn't get vids/pages to load properly.

Oh thanks man I thought it was for ark but then as I was reading the advice I was like"wait....all that stuff sounds right for me too." Thanks though that advice really helps!!!!

 

[b fold the truth]

Ark: Your video looks solid! Don't get too worried about it. You are doing well and I don't see you doing anything too crazy right now to worry about an injury. Keep making constant slow progress and you will have 7 plates a side before you know it.

 

[joe d]

your form is bad and will leed to injury. if you sit back in the lift your height wont be an issue. if you dont correct it i promise you you will suffer sooner or later.

 

[Tblock1]

your form is bad and will leed to injury. if you sit back in the lift your height wont be an issue. if you dont correct it i promise you you will suffer sooner or later.

is this for ark or me? I do need to sit back more

 

[joe d]

ark. i didnt watch yours. ill go look now

 

[joe d]

tblock your lits are impressive you look young. what i see in your litfts are overload singles so i understand the flaws. i wouldnt do this often. if your form was like that on every lift i would say you are snatching with your upper portion and hans/arms to loose and when you do it jerks your entire body out of form. you go forward, your back rounds, and you shock your whole body. that shock is bad

 

[b fold the truth]

See...everyone has a different opinion

 

[Tblock1]

tblock your lits are impressive you look young. what i see in your litfts are overload singles so i understand the flaws. i wouldnt do this often. if your form was like that on every lift i would say you are snatching with your upper portion and hans/arms to loose and when you do it jerks your entire body out of form. you go forward, your back rounds, and you shock your whole body. that shock is bad

Yeah I am 17 thanks! B fold you are right everyone seems to have a different opinion haha!!! Regardless I think the main things to correct in my form are:
1. don't round the lower back
2. dont jerk the weight

To fix both those I need to sit back more, take a deep breath before the lift, and keep the weight close

 

[joe d]

Yeah I am 17 thanks! B fold you are right everyone seems to have a different opinion haha!!! Regardless I think the main things to correct in my form are:
1. don't round the lower back
2. dont jerk the weight

To fix both those I need to sit back more, take a deep breath before the lift, and keep the weight close

good plan.