Dbol Aromatization - please advise

[UrlMighty]

This is my first ever use of steroids so I decided to start really slowly to see how I'd react.

I've been taking Dbol (Naposim) at 10mg per day early in the morning for five days, today being the fifth day. Yesterday morning I started to feel a tightness in my nipples. Is is feasible that this could be gyno symptoms from aromatization at this dose?

I'd bought some Proviron which I was planning to run alongside a little later in case bloat started to happen so I did 75mg of that yesterday in three doses. I also took 20mg Nolva. I took another 25mg of Proviron this morning along with 10mg Nolva and the 10mg Dbol and still got the tightness. I've just popped another 10mg Nolva tablet making 20mg for the day. I'm also getting dryness in my eyes today. I'm glugging plenty of water.

Is this at all common? I can't say I fancy running this much longer with taking more Nolva than Dbol. Would it help to spread the Dbol out and only pop 5mg at a time rather than taking 10mg in one go? I was hoping to minimize shutdown by taking a low dose early in the morning.

Any advice for a newbie besides "drop the 'roids, man"? If I'm this susceptible to gyno then it doesn't look too good for any hopes of ever running Test. I'm glad I started slowly.

Personal stats: Overweight male, mid 40s. Training consistently past 3 years, on-and-off 25 years.

 

[karachi183]

This is my first ever use of steroids so I decided to start really slowly to see how I'd react.

I've been taking Dbol (Naposim) at 10mg per day early in the morning for five days, today being the fifth day. Yesterday morning I started to feel a tightness in my nipples. Is is feasible that this could be gyno symptoms from aromatization at this dose?

I'd bought some Proviron which I was planning to run alongside a little later in case bloat started to happen so I did 75mg of that yesterday in three doses. I also took 20mg Nolva. I took another 25mg of Proviron this morning along with 10mg Nolva and the 10mg Dbol and still got the tightness. I've just popped another 10mg Nolva tablet making 20mg for the day. I'm also getting dryness in my eyes today. I'm glugging plenty of water.

Is this at all common? I can't say I fancy running this much longer with taking more Nolva than Dbol. Would it help to spread the Dbol out and only pop 5mg at a time rather than taking 10mg in one go? I was hoping to minimize shutdown by taking a low dose early in the morning.

Any advice for a newbie besides "drop the 'roids, man"? If I'm this susceptible to gyno then it doesn't look too good for any hopes of ever running Test. I'm glad I started slowly.

Personal stats: Overweight male, mid 40s. Training consistently past 3 years, on-and-off 25 years.

Hmm. I felt tightness in the chest as well but the tightness didnt' get any worse or better at a higher or lower dose. It wasn't that bad as long as i spread them out every 2-3 hours. (but i did get headaches an 1 or 2 nosebleeds when i took 2-5mgs at a time)(but that went away fairly quick) If your overweight then the general senses may be to stop until you lower body fat. Not to mention Dbol is meant to blow you up. what are your goals?

 

[UrlMighty]

Hmm. I felt tightness in the chest as well but the tightness didnt' get any worse or better at a higher or lower dose. It wasn't that bad as long as i spread them out every 2-3 hours. (but i did get headaches an 1 or 2 nosebleeds when i took 2-5mgs at a time)(but that went away fairly quick) If your overweight then the general senses may be to stop until you lower body fat. Not to mention Dbol is meant to blow you up. what are your goals?

Goals? I'm just trying to stave off old age and the effects of the andropause.

I'm not really interested in leaning out my weight. I'm probably high teens BF but maybe a shade higher and quite happy with it. Strength is more of a priority than being lean and I'd hate to start looking 'vascular' but I've no desire to be piling on estrogen bloat either. I decided that Dbol was an easy test on my system since it does aromatize and, being oral and short half-life, I can drop it at a moments notice knowing that it'll be washed away in short order and it's dirt cheap. The Proviron was both as a precautionary anti-e and also to keep any bloat in check if I decided to increase the dosage of the Dbol.

If I read it correctly, you're saying that my symptoms are similar to what you experienced and that they went away fairly quickly. Also that it helped to take the Dbol 5mg at a time through the day.

How long into your cycle did the nipple discomfort last for? Were you using a more typical dosage than the 10mg I'm currently on? Did you use Nolva or an anti-e to help with it?

Sorry it it sounds like I'm giving you the 3rd degree.

 

[karachi183]

Goals? I'm just trying to stave off old age and the effects of the andropause.

I'm not really interested in leaning out my weight. I'm probably high teens BF but maybe a shade higher and quite happy with it. Strength is more of a priority than being lean and I'd hate to start looking 'vascular' but I've no desire to be piling on estrogen bloat either. I decided that Dbol was an easy test on my system since it does aromatize and, being oral and short half-life, I can drop it at a moments notice knowing that it'll be washed away in short order and it's dirt cheap. The Proviron was both as a precautionary anti-e and also to keep any bloat in check if I decided to increase the dosage of the Dbol.

If I read it correctly, you're saying that my symptoms are similar to what you experienced and that they went away fairly quickly. Also that it helped to take the Dbol 5mg at a time through the day.

How long into your cycle did the nipple discomfort last for? Were you using a more typical dosage than the 10mg I'm currently on? Did you use Nolva or an anti-e to help with it?

Sorry it it sounds like I'm giving you the 3rd degree.

At the peak i was up to 30mgs a day spreading them out every 2-3 hours. The discomfort started three weeks in and lasted for almost two weeks but by the last week it was barely noticable and yes i took nolva. 40mgs a day until my puffy nips went down and back to normal then stayed @ 20mgs for another week etc... Right now 1 week out nolva is down to 10mgs (1/2 a 20mg tab) and so far so good no itchiness or puffiness anymore. I think the key is to take nolva all the way through and gyno would not have appeared. since it subsided so quick. Hope that helps.

 

[granby140]

i think ur diving into AAS with out a clue as to what you are doing. Go get HRT and do it the right way

 

[hammercurls]

i think urlmighty has valid reasons and wants for doing this cycle. im all for it. bump!

 

[saintjohn]

i think ur diving into AAS with out a clue as to what you are doing. Go get HRT and do it the right way

when one communicates in a smug, pompous and dismissive manner then it creates a hostile learning environment. he wasn't implying that he had a clue as to what he was doing. he was asking for help from people who do.

 

[needtogetaas]

when one communicates in a smug, pompous and dismissive manner then it creates a hostile learning environment. he wasn't implying that he had a clue as to what he was doing. he was asking for help from people who do.

that was verry well pot.

 

[hammercurls]

when one communicates in a smug, pompous and dismissive manner then it creates a hostile learning environment. he wasn't implying that he had a clue as to what he was doing. he was asking for help from people who do.

agreed.

 

[LVTitan]

Goals? I'm just trying to stave off old age and the effects of the andropause.

i like to call it MANopause

 

[Slyder190]

Bro, no offense, but you need to terminate the cycle, and get your diet, cardio, and training straight. That will give you crazy results if you're dedicated. You also need to do A LOT more research before you use AAS. You'll need Clomid and Nolva now so you can begin PCT.

 

[UrlMighty]

Thanks to everyone who replied.

Karachi183, many, many thanks for sharing your experience. A big help.

Granby140, your thoughts could be right and I should see an endocrinologist. So should everyone who does recreational AAS.

Hammercurls, thanks for the support

SaintJohn, my first thoughts, too. This 'cycle' is really just part of my research. I'd rather find out that I'm susceptible to gyno on an oral than on a long ester. I tried some 4AD a few months back and had no problems with that. (Ducks flames for using prohormones). I could have gone for Anavar but I reckoned that was dodging the issue. I was going to have to find out about Dbol at some stage.

NeedtogetAS, thaet, waes, weel sed. j/k bro, I've seen your posts around.

LvTitan, Manopause and breasticles.

Slyder190, No offence but that's a stock response to any AAS thread. I have Nolva available and I think the presence of the Proviron shows that I've not dived into this without research. I also ensured that I had HCG available should the cycle last that long and I see the need. I'm also running Tylers, Milk Thistle, EFA, Cranberry extract, ALA and Saw Palmetto. Clomid after 5 days 'on' would be overkill for pct unless you have some other reason for recommending it. If I were to stop now, I'd simply run the Nolva a bit longer and go onto the Trib and ZMA and continue with the EFAs. I'd also run the Proviron for another week. If I weren't in a volume phase with my training, I'd reduce volume and increase intensity to stimulate endogenous Test. After five days, though, shutdown should be negligible. Until I decide that I want to return to sub 12% levels, my diet and cardio are fine. I think my training is as good as it could be at this stage.

Again, thanks to everyone. I'm staying 'on' for now and I'll increase the Nolva for two or three days. I'll hit the Nolva and Proviron an hour before my first Dbol and keep the Dbol low and reassess in a few days time after seeing whether the tightness continues or it's simply my body acclimatizing. I just read someone's post on Anadrol. I'm just a wuss.

 

[Slyder190]

Bump. as I said no offense, but I think as this bumper a few more bros will chime in and agree.