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Day 3 on THERMOREXIN

Now I"m on day 3.

Day 2 was one in the AM before driving to work, after a yummy protein/flax/creatine drink. No noticeable effects (besides going to the bathroom pretty often, but that may be because of the all the water I drink anyway). Another one around 3, after two meals of rice, vegetables, and meat. No noticeable effects. Leg workout of squats and SLDLs wasn't any different. Couldn't sleep at night until 2am, though. That sucked.

Took 2 this morning after another yummy protein/flax/creatine drink. Only slept for half the bus ride into the city, instead of the whole time. Feel really awake now, considering I only got 5 hours of sleep instead of the ten I like. Was sweating a little bit, too - but that's stopped now that I'm out of Manhattan's nasty rain and humidity, and in my air-conditioned office.

I plan on taking one more after my third or fourth meal of the day, and taking some sleeping pills after I get back from the gym.

Question, which remained unanswered from my previous post: Can I still bulk while on T-Rex, or will the effects of it preclude any muscle growth?
 
Heh, took one before bed last night (felt guilty about a 2 cup serving of pasta at dinner) slept like a baby, sweated all night though. Woke up feeling refreshed (unlike most mornings where I wake up feeling like a zombie).
 
holy crap, i ordered my T-rex yesterday at 2pm, and with STANDARD SHIPPING, it was delivered to me at 1030 this morning!! lucky that i live in south FL! ;) its 1pm and i'm taking my first pill... lets see what happens!
 
I've been taking the t-rex since June 4, with the exception of one 3-day weekend off because I knew I was going to party hard. :mix:

I take 7 per day now:
3 @ 6:30 AM
2 @ Noon
2 @ 5pm

I take the first dose with carbs (shredded wheat w/ splenda), and the other doses with a carb/protein meal.

Results so far (drumroll please) and Effects/Comments:

  • Down a whopping 5 lbs! People, this is a HUGE loss for my tiny frame. I've also lost lovely inches.

    I get super cold hands and feet for a few hours after taking them, otherwise I don't really feel the physical effects for the most part, even at 7/day. No alertness, heat, headaches, etc etc

    I do find that I go to the bathroom like clockwork just like other folks taking it.

    I don't sweat any more than usual during the day, but I realize that I am sweating more at night. (Great, more laundry!)

    I don't get appetite suppression dangit, in fact I get honestly HUNGRY (not just cravings) so I'm constantly eating extra veggies. I am a eating machine! Yes, I've upped my cals from being so hungry, but there doesn't seem to be an end in sight. The t-rex or something else?

    My workouts have been great, when I'm doing cardio, I feel like I can just go on and on and on! Also, I've noticed nice strength increases as well while lifting. Umm... I can hardly walk from my legs workout on Tuesday ~ think I over did it a bit. :p
 
I can't take thermo's now Macro, its just too hot. I took T-Rex today and I swear I almost had heat stroke.(I took 2 before practice...2hrs)

I stocked my NYC(1) for later use in winter.

Besides, its not like I need thermos....183 lbs 6.5% and dropping like a rock.

Fonz
 
IVE BEEN hit the trex for like 2 weeks now, and the heat isnt a problem. also i work outside all day in sw fla.

anyways, MACRO or ULTER. IVE BEEN TAKIN SOME POTASSIUM pills (99mg) with each TREX. im takin it to counter act the head aches, but my question is, is it dangerous to take to many potassium pills.

my doses are.
2 TREX with breakfast (8:30)
2 TREX at lunch (12:00)
1 Trex before workout (3:30)
thanks
 
KINGKONG69 said:
IVE BEEN hit the trex for like 2 weeks now, and the heat isnt a problem. also i work outside all day in sw fla.

anyways, MACRO or ULTER. IVE BEEN TAKIN SOME POTASSIUM pills (99mg) with each TREX. im takin it to counter act the head aches, but my question is, is it dangerous to take to many potassium pills.

my doses are.
2 TREX with breakfast (8:30)
2 TREX at lunch (12:00)
1 Trex before workout (3:30)
thanks

No, not really. Not in limited quantities.

Limit yourself to 3-4 99mg potassium pills per day max. Spaced apart.

Fonz
 
Ok.

Fonz
 
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Ulter, Macrophage69alpha Supernav or anyone else that has some thoughts,

R U guys taking the T-Rex immediately after workout or waiting the hour then taking. How long is it normally between you r 1st dose and 2nd one.I was keeping my dosages 5 hours apart. Here is my schedule take a look and comment please.
Do you recommend dropping the Didrex. It gives me the push that I desperately need right now. Just keep in mind my goal is to lose bodyfat.

Schedule:
2 T-Rex at wakeup and 1 50mg Didrex(Around 4:45AM)
1 hour later Workout
Post workout, Wait atleast 1 hour before eating
Eat, Keto Diet type meal
Next dosage of T-Rex/Didrex will be 5 hours after AM ge (9:45AM)
5 hours after the above dosage, last T-Rex of the day, no Didrex
With this on though.
Go to work at 2PM

I am actually feeling a little hungrier on the T-Rex. This is why the Didrex is in there. I am considering dropping the Keto diet while on T-Rex. What's your thoughts on the best diet while T-Rexing!!

Currently no problems at all with Thermorexin. Would like to have a better kick in the pants though. Just gotta keep in mind this is working different than ephedra products.

Leaving for the gym,
TT

TT
 
well i hope you all get great results out of this! for me it did nothing, i have been on a ckd diet and its been going great! iam losing a lot of weight/water and iam starting to get to my set goal. i thought i would try thermorexin for that extra help and give it a try,like i said before it did nothing for me! i was going to see if i could send it back but a body of mine wated to try it out so thats where its at now. so iam just going to continue on what i started in the first place and lose some weight:)
good luck everyone...
-matt
 
I am taking my doses every 2 hours now. I suggest you do the same. But the second dose and on I use 1 not 2.
You're hungry as you've semizied because it's clearing your carbs and your body wants more. You don't have to go crazy with this just eat some. I suggest you follow my instructions above and get a carb drink to train with. Use the Glucorell R if you have it also. I am assuming that keeping your LBM is of greater importance than how fast you rip up. Most of us cut way too fast and suffer the consequences by losing strength and LBM. I would rather diet an extra week or two than loose that mass.
 
ulter said:
I am taking my doses every 2 hours now. I suggest you do the same. But the second dose and on I use 1 not 2.
You're hungry as you've semizied because it's clearing your carbs and your body wants more. You don't have to go crazy with this just eat some. I suggest you follow my instructions above and get a carb drink to train with. Use the Glucorell R if you have it also. I am assuming that keeping your LBM is of greater importance than how fast you rip up. Most of us cut way too fast and suffer the consequences by losing strength and LBM. I would rather diet an extra week or two than loose that mass.

Ulter,
I assume you are still taking 6 for the day. 2 caps fisrt thing and then 1 every 2 hours until yu reach a total of 6.

Your are correct, LBM is of the greater importance. I only want to loose about 2lbs per week. Between diet and supps or whatever I want to maintain if not add a little of LBM.

TT
 
ulter said:


No we won't send it to you.
We only got back 2 bottles out of 1000. But to answer your question, whenever we get a return it gets tossed.

i knew you didnt reuse the pills, and send them to customers, i was just curious.
 
The reason is simple. Losing fat is calories in and calories burned. Period. The way people cut those calories varies though. If you choose the keto or Atkin's method that's fine. But they were not written with body builders trying to keep LBM in mind. You simply can't train as hard without carbs. So we tell people, "eat the carbs and use the Glucorell R". We don't say, "eat all the calories you want as long as they are carbs and Glucorell R will take care of them".

I don't think anyone should go without fruit or fruit juice in the morning. So yes you should eat/drink carbs when you take the Thermorexin first thing.

I don't think you need to time your Thermorexin around meals. It is too long acting to worry about that timing.
 
ulter said:
Two upon rising with ALCAR in grapefruit juice. Then 2 before every meal. Two again with ALCAR just before bed. I don't know that the ALCAR is doing anything but I was directed by our senior product development person to use it so I am.

Ahem.....what did I say like MONTHS AGO...... :)

Use ALcar........it is very, very good for you.

See...nobody ever listens to me. :)

Fonz
 
This is by far the most unpredictable shit I've ever played with. Been taking for a couple of weeks. I sweat my ass off, get no appetite supresion, no sleeping dificulties, and usually alittle bit of alertness but no jolt.

Today I only got about 3 hrs sleep b/c the phone wouldn't stop ringing ( I sleep during the day). Anyway, I wake up, eat 1/2 a peanut butter sandwich, and take 2 thermorexin and 2 l-cart like I always do. I get to work and I sweating like a mofo wich is usual but I wired like a madman. I think if I could w/o right now I'd set pr's on everything. Nothing has changed in my routine except the lack of sleep today and I did up my l-dex from .25 to .5. What gives? I need this feeling from now on.
 
ulter said:
THeMaCHinE is right. Extra trips to the bathroom is a good indicator that your metabolism has speeded up. Almost everyone has this happen whether they fell it or not.

LOL

THE POOP SHOOT PILL
 
easy,

higher levels of water intake and/or the addition of tyrosine or acetyl-l-tyrosine tends to guarantee/amplify the stim effect..

in your case just the addition of more water should be sufficient..
 
Thx macro. I'l be running IV fluids from now on..J/K. I feal like I could tear the roof off this place right now.
 
it may be that you were essentially overstimulated before.. but now because you are "tired", from sleeplessness, the stim effect takes you as far..but from a "lower point".. and thus is quite gratifying (given your description)....


water intake can make this a more consistent "feeling"
 
ulter said:
Ok well I did read about it from you first Fonz. But my partner shipped it to my door and made it too easy NOT to use. When he told me he's been taking it for 10 years I figured, well he's still living to tell the story so it can't hurt.

Alcar prevents senile dementia and has some very interesting cardiac properties. It protects an AAS user from left ventricular hypertrophy and also....this shocked the crap out of me rejuvenates the heart. The heart like all organs deteriorates, and becomes less able to conduct its functions...well Alcar ramps up the efficiency of the cardiad organ right back up to that of a 25 y/o.

I'm telling you, after R-ALA...ALcar and Green Tea will be the next super supplements.

Fonz
 
macrophage69alpha said:
btw- tiredness with stims is almost always due to dehydration or tyrosine (neurotransmitter depletion)... dehydration being the more common cause


Water is everything eh macro


mmmm water
 
I'm impatient and VERY curious about the nootropic cocktail you guys are putting out. What's in it? You can private message or email me if you don't want to post the ingredient list publicly until its release...
 
Huperzine A
Vinpocetine
Bacopa (20% bacosides)
Galantamine
Choline Bitartrate
2-oxo-pyrrolidone
DMAE
Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate
Nicotinamide
Calcium Pantothenate
Vitamin C
Acetyl-l-Tyrosine
Acetyl-l-Carnitine
 
Thanks, macro. That sounds awesome. I have a friend who's been looking into getting some "smart drugs" to help him focus better at work, so this product release couldn't have been at a better time. Maybe you guys should enstate a referral service? :)

Daisy_Girl, if it makes you feel any better, I think UPS lost my Glucorell-R order. It's been sitting in Jacksonville, presumably getting a tan and sipping a mai tai, since the 17th. :( Trade you for a few Thermorexin?
 
Ceebs - don't tempt me or you got a deal! I have almost a full bottle of Glucorell-R going unused in my bathroom.... :)

mmmm...mai tai....long time since I had one of those...mmm! Lucky package!
 
Daisy_Girl said:
Ceebs - don't tempt me or you got a deal!

Are you anywhere near San Diego? Because if so, I'll get in my car right now... :D

I was on similar pins and needles waiting for my Thermorexin to arrive, and all I can say is that it's worth it. The weight is coming off at a significant rate, I notice a difference in my concentration and overall "smart" feeling - I'm not reaching for words as much when I speak, and I can work at something for a longer period of time without getting bored. I'm sure I was self-medicating ADD with ephedrine and caffiene for years. It's nice to finally feel like I'm working at my best capacity, while looking my best.
 
*sigh* like I needed more reasons to be pounding down the UPS warehouse door.

As for living near SD - how about a weekend in Vegas? Youcan gamble, frolic, and get some Glucorell R! Thing is, I was almost going to drive to SD for the day Sunday! Isn't that funny!
 
On day three now, heres what i notice.....

Not much in the way of appitie suppression (short when compared to NYC)
Increased irritability (quite pleasant considering how damn passive i usually feel)
Occasionally flashes of anxiety attacks (short lived and sporatic)
I seem to be steady at 214.5 from 224 (i did DNP, at least with the thermorexin im not gaining any back)
Not much in the way of increased energy (i did back on friday with a partner and was always huffing and puffing the whole workout).

At work, i actually felt loaded! I had the feeling of a coke head, always looking around and being fidgity, but feeling light headed and happy, it was pretty cool.

I will check the weight in 1 week and see how im doing. Too early to tell.
 
one more thing, i went up to 3 tabs per day on my second day, latest i took one was 7:30PM, no problems sleeping.
Also have a dull ache in the middle of my chest past few days, dont know if its from thermo......
 
any date to when the nootropic cocktail will be coming out ? :)

by the way, would t-rex have any potential long term side effects like affecting my liver/kidney ? what supplements could it take to protect my body from potential damage ?
 
XzRzX said:
any date to when the nootropic cocktail will be coming out ? :)

by the way, would t-rex have any potential long term side effects like affecting my liver/kidney ? what supplements could it take to protect my body from potential damage ?

All you have to do is research Synephrine HCL. The main alkaloid in Thermorexin and you will know what you need to know.

As far as safety goes...T-rex is far safer for cardiac health than an ECA stack.

Still tastes like crap though....god.........lol It gives me the heeby jeebies just by looking at a cap.

I have to wash it down with Spicy V8 juice( A WHOLE damn bottle 1.5L)

I actually want to have a talk with Macro about BP issues on T-rex as Synephrine is an A1 Agonist which affects BP......but its a complicated issue. Not here.

Fonz
 
XzRzX said:

by the way, would t-rex have any potential long term side effects like affecting my liver/kidney ? what supplements could it take to protect my body from potential damage ?

no. actually a number of the ingredients are very good for liver health.

as far as kidneys, as with most stims, water intake is key... as it is often key to getting the best effects/results. in general kindey health is directly related to adequate water intake.
 
I'm right behind you... :p


Actually I wont be able to afford it but oh well...lol
 
ulter said:
Ok well I did read about it from you first Fonz. But my partner shipped it to my door and made it too easy NOT to use. When he told me he's been taking it for 10 years I figured, well he's still living to tell the story so it can't hurt.

10 years?

Acety-l-Carnitine was like $20K/Kg back then.

I started taking it about a year ago. And it was $400/Kg

Amazing how prices drop.....economies of scale. :)

Fonz
 
Fonz said:


10 years?

Acety-l-Carnitine was like $20K/Kg back then.

I started taking it about a year ago. And it was $400/Kg

Amazing how prices drop.....economies of scale. :)

Fonz

around 8 years ago it was around 1000$/kg..

as a note creatine at around the same time, perhaps a year or two earlier (from EAS) was 125$/kg (retail)

as a secondary creatine note the soviets were supposedly supplementing with it since the early 80's
 
macrophage69alpha said:


around 8 years ago it was around 1000$/kg..

as a note creatine at around the same time, perhaps a year or two earlier (from EAS) was 125$/kg (retail)

as a secondary creatine note the soviets were supposedly supplementing with it since the early 80's

Probably loaded with inpurities though.

I've read over the extraction process and its evolved considerably.

Kilosports still sells theirs for $350/Kg....lol

I'm going to buy it in 10Kg lots...... $850. Its just such a versatile supp. GT, R-ALA, and ALCar are the staple of my supp regime.

Fonz
 
Hi people

Just registered on this forums (was recommended by one of the posters at BB).

I'm really looking forward to trying this product as it is ephedrine free and basically ephedrine is a no-no in Australia.

However, are there any other substances that will cause problems if I'm importing it into Australia? Any one in Australia who has imported this product successfully?

Thanks.
 
bigrand,

not really. try increasing water intake.

do you suffer from anxiety or
do you get anxiety from any other stims?

the "constriction of the chest " you describe is actually more likely anxiety... than any cardiac stimulation..

have you tried P7 or oral pregenolone?
 
I had an anxiety attack or two before (and drug withdrawl anxiety for a few weeks). The feeling in my chest is just a small tightening every once and awhile. Havent tried the P7 or pregen.
WIll try to up water intake.
The little anxiety things i felt are kind of normal for me when i take something new (trip on if it will fuck me up). It happened on DNP, thr first time i took an ECA, and the first time i shot, so im not worried about those occasional little 10 second anxiety attacks.
 
the thing worrying me about the small chest pain is some discomfort in my left forearm (feels like it radiates from chest).
Ill keep it at 2 a day and ill get my BP checked tomorrow.
I dont know what would be causing the discomfort unless the years of off/on ECA is fucking with my heart.
It doesnt feel much like anxiety, im calm as fuck while the feeling in the chest lingers....
 
hey ulter, i just ordered a couple of bottles of glucorell and got them today. my last bottle contained biotin, these dont. are these and old batch, or did you change them.
thanks
 
well, BP was 130 over 77 and HR was 110, so i dont think i will go into cardiac arrest anytime soon..
I dont know what that feeling in my chest is, it comes and goes, also comes and goes in my arm(s). I still have a nice strong heart beat i can feel throughout my body ( i think its because i have a naturally large T wave)
Today i think i felt how thermorex is supposed to make you feel. I was wired (not anxiety though), and my appitete was gone. I needed to move around a lot. It can be uncomfortable at times, but then again, i have some anxiety issues with stims. I seem to be short of breath more often now, and get light headed easier (i dont eat much, thats when its the worst).

All in all, it feels similar to an ECA or NYC in terms of stimulation, making me tired. Its hard to compare them, but i think thermo has the edge in energy (and irritability a plus) and the nootropics help the anxiety to a minimum.
Will update later as to the most important factor......weight loss.
 
I just ordered some thermorexin actually - With all the ingredients that seemingly healthful it shouldnt be a problem for my mom to use it 6 days on 1 day off? (no health problems *knock on wood*)
 
Frackal said:
I just ordered some thermorexin actually - With all the ingredients that seemingly healthful it shouldnt be a problem for my mom to use it 6 days on 1 day off? (no health problems *knock on wood*)

should be fine..
 
macro what are your suggestions for cycling thermorexin for
1. someone who is physically active
2. a sedentary house wife type person

any difference?
 
HamsterHider said:
macro what are your suggestions for cycling thermorexin for
1. someone who is physically active
2. a sedentary house wife type person

any difference?

well, there are so many variants of both of those.
a bit more specific
+goals
diet
level of sedentary or active activity ( it varies a lot)
 
God hamster hider you sound like someone coming into gnc.



"Will myoplex make me fat"


:sick:
 
So hows everyone goin on their TREX?
Ive just started my T4 and Var with it, so 7 more weeks. Hopefully single digit BF by the end. I think Im 14% now.
 
mixed results for me so far.. i am taking 4 a day spaced about 3 hrs apart each. i dont experience a surge of energy, but i defiantely can tell there are stimulants in my body.. i do not get the automatic euphoric feeling that i get with ephedra.. i think i was expecting more of a jolt, due to the responses of most who have tried so far. i'm a little dissappointed, but i think Trex will be easier to handle long-run.. but i feel almost more f*****-up from Trex by the end of the day. hard to explain... possibly because i'm not used to the constant caffeine dosing. i am going to try taking two at once first thing in the morning, then another two after lunch, and see how i respond.. as far as appetite suppression, my stomach tells me when to eat, usually by a pretty uncomfortable empty feeling, but when i try to put food down, i get full much sooner than usual. becomes hard to make myself eat at my normal scheduled times.. thus making it a bit difficult to keep my intake up. after only a couple days i am thinking my abdomen looks leaner, but i also am paranoid that i'm looking smaller. i'm concerned about LBM loss due to the lack of calories. anyone having similar concerns? suggestions? thanks :)
 
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You aren't losing muscle bro. You're losing fat and water. I'll bet the bar didn't get any heavier, did it?
Thermorexin is made to take care of you appetite and make it easier to control overeating. It's doing that, so let it. Don't force food but eat, you know what I mean.
I think 2 and 2 will work better and be closer to the jolt you originally were looking for.
 
I'm on Day 5 of trex... taking 6 pills... 2 at a time spaced apart over 4/5 hours.

Feeling very sharp, warm, and increased loo frequency.
However, I woke up this morning groogy as hell... even AFTER taking my morning dose., and a cood shower.

I think I may be dehydrated. So I am going to increase water intake.

Does anyone know (Fonz??) where to get quality pharma-grade ALCAR at a decent price?

Thanks in advance! :)

HS
 
ok so i've found out that 2 at a time works well for me as far as kickin me in the butt.. definately feelin the burn :D but my 3rd dose today was on a partial empty stomach, and man right now i'm feeling like i'm gonna yakkk.. thought the fruit juice was gonna be enough, but i think there's gotta be something solid in there instead.. gonna try the banana next time
 
Hey guys popped the first one about an hour and a half ago cant really tell as its almost 100 degrees now here.but no adverse reactions and in an anxious typ of person definatley less than ephedrine i'll keep you posted.
 
:horny:
Anyone else notice an increase in libido??? Pleasant surprise... and mine was pretty strong to start with! Also, I notice enhanced mood (playful/giddy). I need the solid carbs (and K+) + lotsa water... otherwise I feel like vomitting.

I get the shivers/goose bumps within 40 minutes of dosing. No other 'heat' to report...yet.. the night is still young ;)

HS
 
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Ulter,
This is my first day. I took one at 4:00 and another one at 8:00, It is now 10 and I have a headache. I guess I should have stuck with just one
 
I feel a lot better this week. Libido and energy and wellbeing have been better now than in like 2 years. I dont know if its this stuff, or i cleaned my receptors last week when i came off DNP and im finally regular for the first time in a long ass time!
 
bigrand said:
I feel a lot better this week. Libido and energy and wellbeing have been better now than in like 2 years. I dont know if its this stuff, or i cleaned my receptors last week when i came off DNP and im finally regular for the first time in a long ass time!

could be either.. though likely at least some, if not most, is due to the thermorexin :p
 
m,y girl-friend is a nurse, she does not really like me taking supps.......but thats another story

Anyway she pointed out that my hands and feet where cold about 1 hour after taking the T-rex......anyone know what this could be
 
weeee, got my T-rex today. Unfortunatly Im on CKD so I prolly wont see any of the thermo effect.

30mins-1hr after 1pill I felt really focused but no thermo effect.. my question is.. would t-rex screw my carbup? I want to load as much glycogen as possible but I have some water-retention(about 2-4lb exess) that I wanna get rid of.

No way possible I will change anything in my diet. To be able to evaluate results/efficiency of this program I have to follow it religiously.. no bananas for me =D

Did a test a couple of days ago and it said 11.1% bf, though I would look more ripped:confused: . I've been consuming a lotta bacon the last 3-4weeks, prolly contains a lot of salt, hopefully some subc-water and not fat..

oh forgot to mention, no jitters which I get grom ephedra-type products!!:D

/Xizor
 
andymac said:
Anyway she pointed out that my hands and feet where cold about 1 hour after taking the T-rex......anyone know what this could be

My feet get cold too. I was wondering the same thing myself....what's up with that? :)
 
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