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heatherrae said:
Undercover stings have been ruled constitutional time and time again. If these guys did not have the predisposition to rape children, 100 undercover agents could come on to them, and they would say "Hell NO!"
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the conversations were INITIATED by the perp - so there's no entrapment. Nor did the decoy start the sex chat. All they did was say

13/f

that's not entrapment. that's real-life.

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Phaded said:
was gonna post something similar to this but i'm not intelligent enough to make it sound so beautiful..
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LOL
 
in asia: parents want to raise girls so they can sell them when they're 13. in afghanistan, they trade 'em for goats. well done Bush!

that's also why those people remain poor and in shitty conditions. they don't value shit.

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nimbus said:
i'm gonna start a business where pedophiles can hire kids to scope out the houses of girls they meet online and make sure chris hansen isn't there
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You've done this before huh?
 
nimbus said:
i'm gonna start a business where pedophiles can hire kids to scope out the houses of girls they meet online and make sure chris hansen isn't there
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lololololololololololol
 
nefertiti said:
I haven't read the thread...but I think it's a bit like waving a stiff drink in front of an alcoholic. You can't really put this kind of undercover operation in the same category as other types if you accept that pedophiles have uncontrollable urges. It doesn't excuse the urges, doesn't excuse the crimes, but it's a sick thing to wave in front of their faces. Anyone ever seen "little children?" There's a man in the movie who's a pedophile...and by the end you actually end up pitying the guy because he's so clearly sick and he hates himself so much that he castrates himself.

Anyway...picture this...Joe pedophile is trying to resist his sickness...so he peruses the internet because he sees it as a harmless way to satiate his demons because he figures so long as he never meets or touches an underage child, he can avoid victimizing one. Then one comes along who WANTS to meet him....and the temptation is too much to bear. Only the boy or girl who is tempting and provoking them is really a cop.

It's easy to villianize these people. I was raped by an adult man when I was 13 and it shaped my life whether I like it or not. I've made some posts recently about feeling like I didn't really have a youth and this is part of the reason why - no child should have to see the evils of the world in such brutal fashion. Once a sick person makes the leap to a sick person who has committed a crime, all bets are off.

But who can say that all of these people arrested through these means would commit a crime if they were not taunted and teased by these fake underage characters? I don't know....so much gray area. I don't think there's any easy answer here.
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They go on the internet into children's chat rooms and start talking to them about sex. The guy in the movie should have castrated himself, and if I could get away with it without going to jail, I would castrate these men myself.
 
heatherrae said:
They go on the internet into children's chat rooms and start talking to them about sex. The guy in the movie should have castrated himself, and if I could get away with it without going to jail, I would castrate these men myself.
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I'm sorry, this just seems lazy to me - I've read your posts on this thread and overall it feels like you let your emotions get carried away. I understand. But it's the easy way out. :whatever:
 
nefertiti said:
I'm sorry, this just seems lazy to me - I've read your posts on this thread and overall it feels like you let your emotions get carried away. I understand. But it's the easy way out. :whatever:
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it's cause she's about to have a kid and gets carried away with every issue relating to children, just like in the sex in public thread
 
nefertiti said:
Anyway...picture this...Joe pedophile is trying to resist his sickness...so he peruses the internet because he sees it as a harmless way to satiate his demons because he figures so long as he never meets or touches an underage child, he can avoid victimizing one. Then one comes along who WANTS to meet him....and the temptation is too much to bear. Only the boy or girl who is tempting and provoking them is really a cop..
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yes, but
a. there ARE plenty of young kids who would also want to meet him and obviously, he can not resist the urge. a man who would NEVER have sex with a minor would never go.

b. they are VERY careful not to be the aggressor so entrapment can't be an issue. You ever notice that the men bring the young girl something? that's because it shows intent. they've brought something with the intent of luring the teen into bed with it. Which means that when they got in their cars, they knew they were going to have sex with a 13 year old girl.


If you put this same analogy to a child murderer, one who goes to a park just to look and satisfy his urges to see children, but then a 6 year old boy comes over and talks to him, and is very willing to walk away with the man... is that entrapment just because the boy is not a cop? or is it murder because the man brought him home, raped him, and then dismembered him?

does it even matter?
 
nefertiti said:
I'm sorry, this just seems lazy to me - I've read your posts on this thread and overall it feels like you let your emotions get carried away. I understand. But it's the easy way out. :whatever:
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Oh bullshit. I felt that way before I was pregnant. Sorry if I get emotional about people raping children and then people on the internet feeling sorry for the rapists. And as far as lazy posts go and over-emotional goes, I think I was the only one who understood and explained the concept of entrapment and why it doesn't apply. You posted a movie about a poor misunderstood child rapist and then expected us to feel sorry for him.

Are you people out of your fucking minds? What is wrong with you? Seriously?
 
nefertiti said:
Anyway...picture this...Joe pedophile is trying to resist his sickness...so he peruses the internet because he sees it as a harmless way to satiate his demons because he figures so long as he never meets or touches an underage child, he can avoid victimizing one. Then one comes along who WANTS to meet him....and the temptation is too much to bear. Only the boy or girl who is tempting and provoking them is really a cop.

It's easy to villianize these people.

But who can say that all of these people arrested through these means would commit a crime if they were not taunted and teased by these fake underage characters? I don't know....so much gray area. I don't think there's any easy answer here.
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Well then, I guess all date rape is okay, then. I mean, the girl goes out on the date with the guy which is like putting a drink in front of an alcoholic. She may have even given him a kiss or dressed sexy. Oh, how is he the villian? He wouldn't have raped her if she didn't taunt him that way.

:rolleyes:

It's easy to villianize these people because they ARE VILLIANS!

Like I said earlier, 100 little boys could ask me to sleep with them and I would most likely call their parents and tell on them. I wouldn't under any circumstances sleep with one. Why? Because I'm not a fucking pedophile.
 
hstern said:
how can these people be defended for any of this? i knew someone would come on and defend them...unbelievable
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yeah, i'm not getting it either.

a child rapist is a child rapist. nomatter how they were lured to do it.
 
stilleto said:
yeah, i'm not getting it either.

a child rapist is a child rapist. nomatter how they were lured to do it.
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I'm not gettin' it either, they aught to beat the shit out of the son's-a-bitches just for coming to the damn house.

Yall keep aggitating HR, I'm gettin' a kick out of it. She gets so pissed about things, guess the hormones are kickin' into high gear... :-) Hi HR, :friends:
 
heatherrae said:
Well then, I guess all date rape is okay, then. I mean, the girl goes out on the date with the guy which is like putting a drink in front of an alcoholic. She may have even given him a kiss or dressed sexy. Oh, how is he the villian? He wouldn't have raped her if she didn't taunt him that way.

:rolleyes:

It's easy to villianize these people because they ARE VILLIANS!

Like I said earlier, 100 little boys could ask me to sleep with them and I would most likely call their parents and tell on them. I wouldn't under any circumstances sleep with one. Why? Because I'm not a fucking pedophile.
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ok then...what are your fetishes? the men that are turned on by this kind of thing are to me morbid, but becuase they cant help themselves does not mean it is wrong. that would be like saying im wrong for being born white. or that im wrong because this turns me on or that turns me on. these guys know that what they get turned on by is not widely accepted, so they are being humiliated on national tv by an invite from an undercover cop. if you were punished for being a woman it would be a different story to you.
 
stilleto said:
yeah, i'm not getting it either.

a child rapist is a child rapist. nomatter how they were lured to do it.
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its funny that an 18 year old who has sex with a 17 year old is considered a child rapist.
 
markshark said:
ok then...what are your fetishes? the men that are turned on by this kind of thing are to me morbid, but becuase they cant help themselves does not mean it is wrong. that would be like saying im wrong for being born white. or that im wrong because this turns me on or that turns me on. these guys know that what they get turned on by is not widely accepted, so they are being humiliated on national tv by an invite from an undercover cop. if you were punished for being a woman it would be a different story to you.
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lol
do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
with that argument, any murderer or rapist of any kind can say "but your honor... i can't help it!"
and that makes it ok?
being a sexual predator can't be compared to what color a person is born.
Lets see how you feel when you have kids and worry about them being sexually assaulted. lets see how you feel when the creepy guy on your road is looking at your little girl and licking his lips. lets see how you feel when your 12 year old says she met a nice 'boy' online in a chat room and she's going to go meet him at the mall.

we'll see if you feel 'they just can't help themselves so they shouldn't have to be humiliated for it' then.
 
Pedophilia is not the fault of the person, this is true. As much as it's not my fault that I'm a sexy hot white chicka, BUT, like Stilleto says, it doesn't make it right.
I do believe pedophiles are wired differently. As I'm sexually attracted to men, I will never be able to change my preference (well unless Stilleto finally gives in to me), just as these men are sexually attracted to kids.
It's a sickness that can NEVER be cured. These people know they are sick, but it's true, they cannot help it.
The only way to help them is to lock them up for life.
Imagine being born with this illness? How sad for these ppl. But not everyone is born "normal"
 
nefertiti said:
I haven't read the thread...but I think it's a bit like waving a stiff drink in front of an alcoholic. You can't really put this kind of undercover operation in the same category as other types if you accept that pedophiles have uncontrollable urges. It doesn't excuse the urges, doesn't excuse the crimes, but it's a sick thing to wave in front of their faces. Anyone ever seen "little children?" There's a man in the movie who's a pedophile...and by the end you actually end up pitying the guy because he's so clearly sick and he hates himself so much that he castrates himself.

Anyway...picture this...Joe pedophile is trying to resist his sickness...so he peruses the internet because he sees it as a harmless way to satiate his demons because he figures so long as he never meets or touches an underage child, he can avoid victimizing one. Then one comes along who WANTS to meet him....and the temptation is too much to bear. Only the boy or girl who is tempting and provoking them is really a cop.

It's easy to villianize these people. I was raped by an adult man when I was 13 and it shaped my life whether I like it or not. I've made some posts recently about feeling like I didn't really have a youth and this is part of the reason why - no child should have to see the evils of the world in such brutal fashion. Once a sick person makes the leap to a sick person who has committed a crime, all bets are off.

But who can say that all of these people arrested through these means would commit a crime if they were not taunted and teased by these fake underage characters? I don't know....so much gray area. I don't think there's any easy answer here.
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Great post. And I agree 100% even though I see HR does not, but her and I have the love of pie in common
 
blueta2 said:
Pedophilia is not the fault of the person, this is true. As much as it's not my fault that I'm a sexy hot white chicka, BUT, like Stilleto says, it doesn't make it right.
I do believe pedophiles are wired differently. As I'm sexually attracted to men, I will never be able to change my preference (well unless Stilleto finally gives in to me), just as these men are sexually attracted to kids.
It's a sickness that can NEVER be cured. These people know they are sick, but it's true, they cannot help it.
The only way to help them is to lock them up for life.
Imagine being born with this illness? How sad for these ppl. But not everyone is born "normal"
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i believe that may be true.
they might not be able to help their attraction to children. whether they are born with it or it developed from a molestation - it doesn't matter. It's obviously as wrong as wrong can get to have sex with a child. It is not up to anyone here to determine what age a child turns into an adult. is 13 old enough to decide? 11? 9?

is dateline dangling bait in front of these pedophiles? yes.
if they don't, will those same men eventually find a real teen or pre-teen to have sex with? most likely. and they will.
might they find a ... 12 year old? 10? 7? who knows. If doing that show stops ANYONE from pursuing a young boy or girl, whether consensual or not, or real or set up... then bravo.

anyone that can't see how good that show is- to expose these people and this sickness, clearly hasn't had children.
 
stilleto said:
i believe that may be true.
they might not be able to help their attraction to children. whether they are born with it or it developed from a molestation - it doesn't matter. It's obviously as wrong as wrong can get to have sex with a child. It is not up to anyone here to determine what age a child turns into an adult. is 13 old enough to decide? 11? 9?

is dateline dangling bait in front of these pedophiles? yes.
if they don't, will those same men eventually find a real teen or pre-teen to have sex with? most likely. and they will.
might they find a ... 12 year old? 10? 7? who knows. If doing that show stops ANYONE from pursuing a young boy or girl, whether consensual or not, or real or set up... then bravo.

anyone that can't see how good that show is- to expose these people and this sickness, clearly hasn't had children.
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That show is entrapment, but hey, when I drive home I see cops entrapping speeders all the time.
The show does actually "catch a pred"
 
blueta2 said:
That show is entrapment, but hey, when I drive home I see cops entrapping speeders all the time.
The show does actually "catch a pred"
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to me, it's a 'set up', but not an 'entrapment', since there was NOTHING stopping these men from saying "I'm not coming to your house", which is what any man who is NOT a pedophile would say.

and... even if these men couldn't help themselves and enjoy talking sexually to teenagers all night, sending some 12 year old girl pictures of his 55 year old dick- do you think any of those men on TV have never gone to meet a kid before?
they admit they have. and they would have again. i wonder how many of them would have turned to force at some point?
 
blueta2 said:
That show is entrapment, but hey, when I drive home I see cops entrapping speeders all the time.
The show does actually "catch a pred"
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It isn't entrapment.

Damn, if I hear that one more time I'm going to beat my head against the monitor.

I defined entrapment earlier in this thread.

What they are doing is not entrapment. It is just a sting op.
 
heatherrae said:
It isn't entrapment.

Damn, if I hear that one more time I'm going to beat my head against the monitor.

I defined entrapment earlier in this thread.

What they are doing is not entrapment. It is just a sting op.
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Heather, I know that you understand entrapment is something you have to have a certain level of legal education to understand as a legal standard. Solicitation of a criminal act like prostitution is the typical example used. The US has made legal constructs but I'm concerned about the media making it entertainment as a new angle on reality TV.
 
javaguru said:
Heather, I know that you understand entrapment is something you have to have a certain level of legal education to understand as a legal standard. Solicitation of a criminal act like prostitution is the typical example used. The US has made legal constructs but I'm concerned about the media making it entertainment as a new angle on reality TV.
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I think it is a great thing!

I was able to show my ex's daughters that show and say "see, these men really are out there and some will KILL you." It makes parents more aware to watch what their kids do online. It makes kids more aware to be careful online. It exposes the bad guys and maybe makes a few guys think twice about being online predators because they may get caught.
 
javaguru said:
Heather, I know that you understand entrapment is something you have to have a certain level of legal education to understand as a legal standard. Solicitation of a criminal act like prostitution is the typical example used. The US has made legal constructs but I'm concerned about the media making it entertainment as a new angle on reality TV.
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well GOOD. let EVERY pedophile worry that chris hanson will be waiting for him before he goes to some kids house. Make him worry about his family seeing him on tv trying to have sex with a 13 year old boy.

GOOD! Tough shit for them- they shouldn't be trying to fuck children- nomatter how strong they came onto them or who is behind the keyboard.

maybe just ONE of those men was, or would have turned into, the kind of pedophile that doesn't wait for an invitation and it makes EVERY humiliation worthwhile.
 
heatherrae said:
I think it is a great thing!

I was able to show my ex's daughters that show and say "see, these men really are out there and some will KILL you." It makes parents more aware to watch what their kids do online. It makes kids more aware to be careful online. It exposes the bad guys and maybe makes a few guys think twice about being online predators because they may get caught.
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Heather, the statistics show that it doesn't deter anyone, just like the death penalty doesn't deter murder. Wasn't the dude that committed suicide recently an attorney? How long have those episodes been on? He wasn't deterred. Shows like this just make them (the "predators") more aware about tactics used to catch them, Nimbus is starting a business to help them out. Anywho, it stinks of vigilantism, which as an officer of the court, you should oppose....just sayin'.
 
i can't believe there is anyone that doesn't think they are doing a great thing.

i mean, anyone who is not a pedophile.

i'd volunteer my time for them if i could. and no, i was never molested.
 
stilleto said:
i can't believe there is anyone that doesn't think they are doing a great thing.

i mean, anyone who is not a pedophile.

i'd volunteer my time for them if i could. and no, i was never molested.
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In ancient Greece, an upper class male would have been considered "deviant" if he he didn't like sex with underage boys. Like I said, vigilantism isn't something desirable....
 
javaguru said:
Well, age of consent is arbitrary. The Federal age of consent in the US is 16. In Spain the age of consent is 12.....Those numbers both come from INTERPOL. It's funny we allow 16 year olds to drive, the #1 cause of death for teens, and yet they can't consent to sex????
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I used to say "ahhhhhh everyone is so stupid romeo and juliet were 14 and 13, we all grow pubic hair blah blah." then I found out there was a life expectancy of 35 back then and that sucked.
 
bran987 said:
I used to say "ahhhhhh everyone is so stupid romeo and juliet were 14 and 13, we all grow pubic hair blah blah." then I found out there was a life expectancy of 35 back then and that sucked.
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"average" life expectancy, be accurate..poor people died young..many rich people lived well into their 70's...like Romeo and Juliet could have....you were right....except for the fact that in real life she would have been married off to a 40 year old...
 
javaguru said:
Shows like this just make them (the "predators") more aware about tactics used to catch them, Nimbus is starting a business to help them out.
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LOL! you didn't think i was being serious did you?
 
javaguru said:
In ancient Greece, an upper class male would have been considered "deviant" if he he didn't like sex with underage boys. Like I said, vigilantism isn't something desirable....
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they also had vomitoriums.

so?
who cares what ancient greece has, does it make having sex with a 9 year old right?
 
i think the main focus of the show are as follows: ratings, awareness to parents of who exactly is out there online, deter future pedo's from trying to meet kids. ok sit home and have sex chats with kids if thats ur thing, but once u get in your car and drive 4 hours to be with a 12 y/o girl who is home alone, how can he be defended
 
stilleto said:
they also had vomitoriums.

so?
who cares what ancient greece has, does it make having sex with a 9 year old right?
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of course not. it's 100% wrong because you don't like it, and nobody else's opinion on the subject matters.
 
nimbus said:
of course not. it's 100% wrong because you don't like it, and nobody else's opinion on the subject matters.
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i'm pretty sure most children don't really like getting raped by old men either. nor do the police like it, or the parents.

it's really not just my opinion here at all. maybe you would want sex with children to be legal, but that doesn't make it legal.
 
i just have a hard time trying to figure out why a person would have a different opinion on it. its the its not his fault mentality, bullshit
 
stilleto said:
i'm pretty sure most children don't really like getting raped by old men either. nor do the police like it, or the parents.

it's really not just my opinion here at all. maybe you would want sex with children to be legal, but that doesn't make it legal.
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i don't condone pedophilia at all, in fact i think it's awful and gross - and it's probly best that it's illegal. But i have no idea what consensual sex with an adult is like for a child, so i'm not going to be stubbornly adamant about the issue just because it seems disgusting to me
 
stilleto said:
they also had vomitoriums.

so?
who cares what ancient greece has, does it make having sex with a 9 year old right?
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Consensual sex between a 12 year old and a 40 year old in Spain is legal.
 
nimbus said:
i don't condone pedophilia at all, in fact i think it's awful and gross - and it's probly best that it's illegal. But i have no idea what consensual sex with an adult is like for a child, so i'm not going to be stubbornly adamant about the issue just because it seems disgusting to me
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it's PROBABLY best that it's illegal?
are you fucking kidding?

what is "consensual sex with an adult" by a child? they are CHILDREN - there IS no grey area of consent.

its not that it disgusts me (which it does) but the fact that its a horrible thing to happen to a child, even if they agree to it.

I lost my virginity at a young age- consentually, and with another minor. It did not hurt me for life, and I'm sure there are MANY 14 year olds who feel the same way. but it's not up to you or I to decide that 14 should be ok. or 12. or 9.

how about a 6 year old?
 
stilleto said:
it's PROBABLY best that it's illegal?
are you fucking kidding?

what is "consensual sex with an adult" by a child? they are CHILDREN - there IS no grey area of consent.

its not that it disgusts me (which it does) but the fact that its a horrible thing to happen to a child, even if they agree to it.

I lost my virginity at a young age- consentually, and with another minor. It did not hurt me for life, and I'm sure there are MANY 14 year olds who feel the same way. but it's not up to you or I to decide that 14 should be ok. or 12. or 9.

how about a 6 year old?
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is it actually a horrible thing to happen to a child? i'm not saying it isn't; i just don't know. Any studies, first hand accounts? i'm curious
 
nimbus said:
is it actually a horrible thing to happen to a child? i'm not saying it isn't; i just don't know. Any studies, first hand accounts? i'm curious
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As long as their 14 y/o b/f pays child support for the child your 35 y/o ass conceived with her when you raped her 14 y/o ass... I don't think it's that bad of a crime.
 
nimbus said:
is it actually a horrible thing to happen to a child? i'm not saying it isn't; i just don't know. Any studies, first hand accounts? i'm curious
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Surely you are joking, right?
 
hstern said:
no he wasnt acting on his impulses, i mean he could have tried to grab the child he deserves some credit, jesus christ
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oh yeah, well sure.
besides, are there really any studies showing it's wrong to jack off on a 3 year old?
 
stilleto said:
he was only taking pictures of 3 year old to beat off to later. its not his fault. I'm sure none of the parents minded that....in fact, maybe the kids would enjoy it. :rolleyes:
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I'm sure that the kids would love to later find out that their pictures are on a website for men to beat off looking at them.

The parents shouldn't be concerned that their kids pictures are on the web on a blog where all the pedos go to look at them.

Those pedophiles are poor, misunderstood and can't help but exploit children. Maybe we should give him more SSI and a place to live so he can carry out his picture taking in more comfort.
 
You know what's terribly creepy, is how many pedophiles there are out there.
There have always been this many but they are being exposed more b/c of the net and tv shows.
What the fuck goes on in the make brain to produce these monsters?!
 
nimbus said:
is it actually a horrible thing to happen to a child? i'm not saying it isn't; i just don't know. Any studies, first hand accounts? i'm curious
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I dont NEED a *study*... I lived it.

And I can tell you with zero hesitation - YES, IS THAT HORRIBLE.

First time I was felt up by a dirty old man (who was friends with my uncle). He was "teaching me how to swim." Only his hands would always end up wandering to my crotch.

I was 9 years old and NO, I didn't ask for it and NO, I didn't enjoy it.

Second time I was 12 and went to my aunt's house to visit my favorite aunt and play with her daughter, my then 4-6 year old cousin. Only my aunt wasn't there and it was nap time. So her father-in-law said we should all three of us take a nap. You can't begin to know how DISGUSTED I felt having that filthy old man feel up my little pathetic swolen breast-wannabees as he was joking, "Well, well what are *we growing here* now?"

No, I didn't ask for that and NO, I didn't enjoy it either.

I was raped at the age of 14 by my 24 year old cousin. I had a crush on him and enjoyed the attention that he and his friend would give me treating me like "a big kid and not one of the little kids." You can't begin to understand how much it fucked with my mind that this man was only preparing me for a *nature walk* where he would show me all about the birds and the bees.

NO, I didn't ask for it. NO, I didnt enjoy it. NO, I didnt know how to make it stop and NO, I sure the shit couldn't tell anyone...

My mother blamed me for the first dirty old man feeling me up. Instead of defending me, she said I asked for it and that I was a dirty little girl.... a whore. Nice thing to tell your 9 year old daughter... eh?

I never told anyone about the second incident, was bad enough I was blamed for the first. And it took me YEARS of therapy to get over the rape. To this day I still have major control issues regarding sex.

Any other questions?
 
heatherrae said:
I'm sure that the kids would love to later find out that their pictures are on a website for men to beat off looking at them.

The parents shouldn't be concerned that their kids pictures are on the web on a blog where all the pedos go to look at them.

Those pedophiles are poor, misunderstood and can't help but exploit children. Maybe we should give him more SSI and a place to live so he can carry out his picture taking in more comfort.
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because, afterall, its not like he committed murder. and couldn't it be considered entrapment? i mean, the kids are there all strutting their diaper covered asses in front of them, right? what the hell else are they supposed to do?
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I dont NEED a *study*... I lived it.

And I can tell you with zero hesitation - YES, IS THAT HORRIBLE.

First time I was felt up by a dirty old man (who was friends with my uncle). He was "teaching me how to swim." Only his hands would always end up wandering to my crotch.

I was 9 years old and NO, I didn't ask for it and NO, I didn't enjoy it.

Second time I was 12 and went to my aunt's house to visit my favorite aunt and play with her daughter, my then 4-6 year old cousin. Only my aunt wasn't there and it was nap time. So her father-in-law said we should all three of us take a nap. You can't begin to know how DISGUSTED I felt having that filthy old man feel up my little pathetic swolen breast-wannabees as he was joking, "Well, well what are *we growing here* now?"

No, I didn't ask for that and NO, I didn't enjoy it either.

I was raped at the age of 14 by my 24 year old cousin. I had a crush on him and enjoyed the attention that he and his friend would give me treating me like "a big kid and not one of the little kids." You can't begin to understand how much it fucked with my mind that this man was only preparing me for a *nature walk* where he would show me all about the birds and the bees.

NO, I didn't ask for it. NO, I didnt enjoy it. NO, I didnt know how to make it stop and NO, I sure the shit couldn't tell anyone...

My mother blamed me for the first dirty old man feeling me up. Instead of defending me, she said I asked for it and that I was a dirty little girl.... a whore. Nice thing to tell your 9 year old daughter... eh?

I never told anyone about the second incident, was bad enough I was blamed for the first. And it took me YEARS of therapy to get over the rape. To this day I still have major control issues regarding sex.

Any other questions?
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thats horrible BM i ha s some shit too which i wont go into at this time, it definately fukks u up for good self esteem, perception of people, trust issues, its a horrible life
 
so pedophiles rape the kids? the kids don't consent to what is happening? or they're too scared to say anything?
 
nimbus said:
so pedophiles rape the kids? the kids don't consent to what is happening? or they're too scared to say anything?
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here. read:

http://www.childluresprevention.com/research/molester.asp

"Give me a kid who knows nothing about sex, and you've given me my next victim."

49% of offenders of victims under age 6 were family members.
42% of offenders of victims ages 7-11 were family members.
24% of offenders of victims ages 12 - 17 were family members.*

so lets say the 24% of 12-17 year olds wanted to be sexually active... do you think they wanted to be sexually active with a family member? do you think that family member ONLY went after them, or that there were others?

what in the world would make a 12 year old want to lose his or her virginity in the first place? they've barely stopped playing with dolls.
 
the chat transcripts from the dateline show portray sexually eager teens, not clueless 8 year olds who think they're gonna play jenga. How they know that the pedophiles they are targeting were going to force any sort of sexual contact. Maybe they thought 15 year old genuinely wanted to have sex with them
 
stilleto said:
lol
do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
with that argument, any murderer or rapist of any kind can say "but your honor... i can't help it!"
and that makes it ok?
being a sexual predator can't be compared to what color a person is born.
Lets see how you feel when you have kids and worry about them being sexually assaulted. lets see how you feel when the creepy guy on your road is looking at your little girl and licking his lips. lets see how you feel when your 12 year old says she met a nice 'boy' online in a chat room and she's going to go meet him at the mall.

we'll see if you feel 'they just can't help themselves so they shouldn't have to be humiliated for it' then.
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ive said a hundred times that i dont agree with the act. of course i would protect my children. you are missing the point.
 
nimbus said:
the chat transcripts from the dateline show portray sexually eager teens, not clueless 8 year olds who think they're gonna play jenga. How they know that the pedophiles they are targeting were going to force any sort of sexual contact. Maybe they thought 15 year old genuinely wanted to have sex with them
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except they don't portray 15 year olds. they play 12 and 13 year olds.

and although the "teens" are happy to have these men come over, where do you draw the line? what if the 'kid' was 11 and said, "come over? uh.... ok, i guess."
what if the kid is 9 and says, "ok, we can play a game".

the truth is, 12 year olds are not old enough to be able to make a decision that they are ready for sex. and they CERTAINLY aren't old enough to know they want to have it with a 50 year old stranger. I'm sure it happens that they want to try- but it doesn't make it right. there are young kids who want to drink alcohol too, but it doesn't mean they should be able to.

anyone who thinks its OK for these men because the preteen wanted to have it, or because its legal in some other country, should NEVER be allowed to have kids.
 
nimbus said:
so pedophiles rape the kids? the kids don't consent to what is happening? or they're too scared to say anything?
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ARe you seriously off your fucking rocker? Seriously?

Yes, at 11 you are terrified.

Are you seriously deranged or something?

FURTHERMORE, if an 11 year old girl wants to have sex with a 40 year old stranger from the internet, there is something wrong with her! That doesn't mean that a man should take advantage of her screwed up psychology and molest her.

If she wanted to commit suicide, you shouldn't go hang her, either.
 
markshark said:
ive said a hundred times that i dont agree with the act. of course i would protect my children. you are missing the point.
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no, i hear your point- i just think it's completely fucked up.
 
nimbus said:
the chat transcripts from the dateline show portray sexually eager teens, not clueless 8 year olds who think they're gonna play jenga. How they know that the pedophiles they are targeting were going to force any sort of sexual contact. Maybe they thought 15 year old genuinely wanted to have sex with them
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So, would you have sex with a 14 year old girl if she told you she wanted it?
 
heatherrae said:
So, would you have sex with a 14 year old girl if she told you she wanted it?
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no i think it's disgusting. but at the same time i wouldn't wanna humiliate somoene who did
 
nimbus said:
no i think it's disgusting. but at the same time i wouldn't wanna humiliate somoene who did
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i would.
and if that 14 year old was my son or daughter, i'd want the man humiliated, exposed, charged, prosecuted, and locked up.

and I'd want everyone else that was even thinking about it to cringe at the sight of it and think about it the next time they say "i'll be right over" to a young girl online.
 
stilleto said:
i would.
and if that 14 year old was my son or daughter, i'd want the man humiliated, exposed, charged, prosecuted, and locked up.

and I'd want everyone else that was even thinking about it to cringe at the sight of it and think about it the next time they say "i'll be right over" to a young girl online.
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cool
 
if there was a way to identify a gene responsible for pedophilia, would you ladies like babies to be tested and then kept in some pedophilia database?
 
nimbus said:
if there was a way to identify a gene responsible for pedophilia, would you ladies like babies to be tested and then kept in some pedophilia database?
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yes. If it kept one kid from getting molested it would be worth it.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
lol, why is it all girls say this? I think if it was going to happen it would have happened by now.
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I think that is perfect. We could skip you getting any oral and just focus on what you can do for me. I like that.
 
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