cycling carbs

[wannabeBB]

I really appreciate all the help everyone gave me on my thread below.
I am still thinking whether I will go the route of carb cycling. I'm not doubting that it works. I just dont understand the concept of it. Could someone explain why this works?
I guess because I used to eat a high carb diet (long distance runner) that it's hard to understand.
I am trying to decide whether to go with Labrada's diet or this carb cycling thing. His diet is 60% carbs and 7% fat. If carbs are bad, then how do so many people get cut on his diet?
Again,I'm not doubting any info people here have given me, I just want it understand it more.

 

[Arioch]

His diet is 60% carbs and 7% fat

Eh? Holy hormone shutdown, Batman!!!

Is this a pre-contest diet, by chance?

I am sure Spatts will be along any minute to explain her carb rotation.

 

[Arioch]

On your high carb days, when you say you consume only fibrous carbs after you train, does that include post workout?

 

[wannabeBB]

Yeah, the diet I spoke of is a precontest diet. (although I'm not precontest, I'm just looking to drop bodyfat)

I weight train late in the day- Right before my 6th meal. At what point in the day should I switch to fibrous carbs?

 

[Arioch]

Thanks,

I probably would have known that if I had ever actually read it.

<blush>

 

[jenny27]

what if you weight train early in the morning? Right now, I usually will train tuesday and thursday mornings-days i'm not able to train in the afternoon (due to my work schedule and knowing that i'd be too tired to train afterwards). I'll usually have a whey shake and a table spoon of flax oil about an hour before i head to the gym. When i come home i normally take creatine and a whey shake then eat some oatmeal for my breakfast. i train 4 days a week and cardio usually 3 first thing in the morning. would it be necessary for me to cycle my carbs high on the days that i train in the morning? i'm trying to cut right now and the carbs at night are killing me.

 

[Punschkrapfen]

~25% are adopted to carbs and can absorb and use them appropiately. The other 75% dont do well on high carb diets, their insulin output spikes too high after ingesting carbs and they get converted into triglycerides and stored as fat before they can be burnt as fuel.
this explains why some thrive on 60% carbs, while others would just get fat and tired from that much.

 

[makedah]

~25% are adopted to carbs and can absorb and use them appropiately. The other 75% dont do well on high carb diets, their insulin output spikes too high after ingesting carbs and they get converted into triglycerides and stored as fat before they can be burnt as fuel.
this explains why some thrive on 60% carbs, while others would just get fat and tired from that much.

Can I get some stats or articles on this? I read about 'carb sensitivity' and the like all the time, but I've never found a scientific article on it.

 

[Punschkrapfen]

Can I get some stats or articles on this? I read about 'carb sensitivity' and the like all the time, but I've never found a scientific article on it.

i got this information only recently off this german website: http://www.evos.de/fettab/feerketo.htm.
A german doctor, Wolfgang Lutz, M.D., has written a book titled "living without bread - the scientific foundation to low-carb dieting". I will get a copy of this and check where he has that from.
Also on this page there is a reference to another diet book which seems to be a translation of DiPasquale's book.

 

[wilson6]

You'll never find a ref that concludes that carbs make you fat, because they don't. It takes massive, chronic carb overfeedings to get significant conversion to fat. However, only small amounts of carbs (particularly high GI carbs) will shut down fat oxidation via a small rise in insulin. Those that consume a lot of carbs, burn primarily carbs. If you're running 60 - 70 mi per week, then you can eat all the carbs you want, if you're not, then you can't.

Carbs keep you fat by preventing fat oxidation and keep the enzymes that cause fat storage turned on so even small amounts of fat (that 1 tablespoon of flax) will get stored as fat and over time this adds up.

W6