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Finished up with the morning show, ate some food(stuff I shouldnt have, but sho doesnt after pre-judging) came upstairs, and saw my trainer talking with the head judge. Apparently the judges were split down the middle between me and another guy, I owned him in size, but he was a little tighter in some spots. So instead of it being decided in the morning, it was going to come down to the night show.
Since I had already had some water, and food that I shouldnt have, I basically had to go the entire day with no water(and was already dehydrated all to shit), run more diuretics than I have ever touched before, and find a way to amuse myself in a strange city for the rest of the day, while doing this.
Anyway, evening show finally gets here, I am so dehydrated that my contacts wont even work properly, so I cant see straight. Trainer says I not only maintained my condition, but might actually be a bit tighter. So we get back on stage, and in the end I took second in the class to the other guy, apparently by about the closest margin possible
So I'll start throwing up some pics, they came out super dark and crappy, not sure why as my camera is a 6.1 megapixel, so they should have come out better. So I am playing with them, trying to lighten then up so you can actually see something, but I'm not really good at this stuff
The guy in the black trunks, number 72 is the one that edged me out

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sorry bro, but you got stiffed!!
you literally OWN this guy!!!

your legs are bigger and more defined..
your abs destroy his...

your back is wider and looks thicker..

the only pose where he takes you is the side tricep...
his arms and delts seem bigger and much more defined.
but i think it could be a bad angle.
 
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You def have him beat in the legs! He might be a little tighter up top. Good job Bro! Now go eat a big fat burger, you deserve it!
 
excellent work ns... looks to me like #72 just had more muscle maturity than you; he appears just a bit harder and more striated. you def have him in the size dept with regards to quads, arms, and back, but his delts really seem to pop and his shoulder girdle looks more developed. could be the way he was posing/standing during the pic, but to me he really stands out in the "relaxed" pose:

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doesn't take anything away from what you have accompiished bro. congrats, you've done us all proud.
 
I am not an expert on BB and only been to a few shows my self....
I dont know what judges look for but I would rather look like Needsize then #72...

I think needsize has better bis, quads, ABS and lats.... ect.....

NEEDSIZE, you look F%@* GREAT BRO.....
 
Thanks guys
The feedback from everyone in the audience basically was I owned him size wise pretty much everywhere, had much deeper cuts/striations in the legs and hams, but he was a little tighter in the upper body, looked like I had a little extra water up top, that is likely the result of me playing with a diet the last few days that I shouldnt have touched
 
Shoot. From what I can see in the pics, he's only harder in the abs. . .maybe. Kind of hard to tell. . .his abs are put together completely different from yours.

You did a good job. You should be proud. Some advice. . .if you do feel some disappointment, don't let it fade away, use it as fuel for the fire. :chomp:
 
in that relaxed pose he's pushing out his chest and brining his shoulders back thats why his shoulders look so thick. one thing i noticed is that he always had his body closer together, for example the side tri. and that made him look thicker. also he had you on calfs. but as far as quads go, he had nothing on you. personally i dont think he had a better physique, just knew how to bring out his stong points and hide his weak points with posing.
 
Well congratulations. This is a tough sport, it's hard to make a judgement from these pics but it looks real close. Good luck in 2 weeks.
 
He's standing with knees bent to show musculature in the legs. So it looks like he has s more developed legs on the non leg loses , lol

He doesn't have abs standing next to you. The double bicep shows that you have more thickness in the back. man who was judging this show?? Probably some of theses Jay Cutler fans here on elite that think you can have no abs and still win a show. I'm with Satch , you got shafted
 
The judges were split right down the middle on the whole thing, funny thing is I lost the last one because I was way leaner, but he had me in size, this time, the opposite....
I have decided though, not to do the next show. He will actually be there, and I could come in tighter, and own his ass, but after thinking about all this since yesterday, i realized right now its not worth it. I sacrificed too much, at a time when it was wrong to do it(ie put a ton of cash into it, at a time when my family was hurting for cash), took time away from my family when I shouldnt. I just realized on friday that my son went from single words, to sentences in the past week or so, but missed it because I was too busy with this. Not to mention I got a new job in my field a few weeks ago that I love, and its suffered already because of this, i cant take chances with that. And hell, just by cancelling the next show, I put over $1000 back in my pocket, from lost wages, hotel room, and all the other stuff that had to go in it. My family needs that grand more than a plastic trophy right now anyway
 
Needsize you look great live and learn don't mess with shit so close. I honestly can't see where he had you beat but I am probably bias. Edit just read that your not doing the next one? Why not? Seriously only 2 more weeks dial it in you look freakin awesome you CAN make nationals this year DO IT!!!!!
 
its hard to judge from pics, but it looked close. the only thing i can see on him thats better is shoulders. but other then that, very close. you still placed and youre moving on to the next one. dont focus on this too much, just push forward
 
needsize said:
The judges were split right down the middle on the whole thing, funny thing is I lost the last one because I was way leaner, but he had me in size, this time, the opposite....
I have decided though, not to do the next show. He will actually be there, and I could come in tighter, and own his ass, but after thinking about all this since yesterday, i realized right now its not worth it. I sacrificed too much, at a time when it was wrong to do it(ie put a ton of cash into it, at a time when my family was hurting for cash), took time away from my family when I shouldnt. I just realized on friday that my son went from single words, to sentences in the past week or so, but missed it because I was too busy with this. Not to mention I got a new job in my field a few weeks ago that I love, and its suffered already because of this, i cant take chances with that. And hell, just by cancelling the next show, I put over $1000 back in my pocket, from lost wages, hotel room, and all the other stuff that had to go in it. My family needs that grand more than a plastic trophy right now anyway
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i guess i posted my response while you were typing this. im not sure if its a good idea or not to drop out of the next show, but i respect that you;re doing it for your family. where i come from, nothing is more important than family. you;re a good guy bro. keeping it real
 
needsize said:
The judges were split right down the middle on the whole thing, funny thing is I lost the last one because I was way leaner, but he had me in size, this time, the opposite....
I have decided though, not to do the next show. He will actually be there, and I could come in tighter, and own his ass, but after thinking about all this since yesterday, i realized right now its not worth it. I sacrificed too much, at a time when it was wrong to do it(ie put a ton of cash into it, at a time when my family was hurting for cash), took time away from my family when I shouldnt. I just realized on friday that my son went from single words, to sentences in the past week or so, but missed it because I was too busy with this. Not to mention I got a new job in my field a few weeks ago that I love, and its suffered already because of this, i cant take chances with that. And hell, just by cancelling the next show, I put over $1000 back in my pocket, from lost wages, hotel room, and all the other stuff that had to go in it. My family needs that grand more than a plastic trophy right now anyway
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Congrats NS, you looked awesome. I have a lot of respect for you for being able to make this decision, family is always number 1, and I respect you for not forgetting that.
 
needsize said:
The judges were split right down the middle on the whole thing, funny thing is I lost the last one because I was way leaner, but he had me in size, this time, the opposite....
I have decided though, not to do the next show. He will actually be there, and I could come in tighter, and own his ass, but after thinking about all this since yesterday, i realized right now its not worth it. I sacrificed too much, at a time when it was wrong to do it(ie put a ton of cash into it, at a time when my family was hurting for cash), took time away from my family when I shouldnt. I just realized on friday that my son went from single words, to sentences in the past week or so, but missed it because I was too busy with this. Not to mention I got a new job in my field a few weeks ago that I love, and its suffered already because of this, i cant take chances with that. And hell, just by cancelling the next show, I put over $1000 back in my pocket, from lost wages, hotel room, and all the other stuff that had to go in it. My family needs that grand more than a plastic trophy right now anyway
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Well I'm not gonna encourage you either way,I'll just say "Spoken like a true champion"




RADAR
 
Man i dont get it - your bigger, fuller and more definition - granted i can only see pics but you look like you kick his ass on all fronts
 
Congrats on the contest, you looked amazing...shoulda went ur way, but everything happens for a reason. Mucho respect for thinking about family first. Good luck either way bro...
 
needsize said:
The judges were split right down the middle on the whole thing, funny thing is I lost the last one because I was way leaner, but he had me in size, this time, the opposite....
I have decided though, not to do the next show. He will actually be there, and I could come in tighter, and own his ass, but after thinking about all this since yesterday, i realized right now its not worth it. I sacrificed too much, at a time when it was wrong to do it(ie put a ton of cash into it, at a time when my family was hurting for cash), took time away from my family when I shouldnt. I just realized on friday that my son went from single words, to sentences in the past week or so, but missed it because I was too busy with this. Not to mention I got a new job in my field a few weeks ago that I love, and its suffered already because of this, i cant take chances with that. And hell, just by cancelling the next show, I put over $1000 back in my pocket, from lost wages, hotel room, and all the other stuff that had to go in it. My family needs that grand more than a plastic trophy right now anyway
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Kudos to you, my friend! In my eyes you're even more impressive now than you were before. A very WISE decision. Kids grow up very fast and our opportunity to have a positive impact on their lives is fleeting at best.

I also do not spend as much time with my family as I would like to. However, in my case it's because I work pretty much seven days a week for long periods of time. . .the sacrifice I made so my wife could quit her 80K-a-year job to stay home with the kids. . .best decision we ever made but, I sometimes wish I could spend a little more time with my family.
 
you look great brotha.........He had you a little bit in the upper body conditioning.....He seema to have a wee bit more mucle maturity, but regardless you look fucking awesome.

Much repsect for your choice with your family....Its whay I have always thought you were one of the classiest on the boards.
 
NS,

Damn man...looking great! Congrats on placing 2nd.

Everyone has thier priorities in life, and family should always be on top.
 
Well bro I'm not biased cause I haven't really talked to you but I really though you beat him from the pics! I am no judge or expert but if I would have picked a winner it would have been you. Your quads & hamstrings blew him away, better abs, chest, and back. Awesome job!!!
 
thanks everyone
I didnt think anyone would really understand my decision to not do the second one, especially since if I came in a bit harder, I could beat the same guy at that show for some redemption... But so many things hit me at once when I got some last night, it was crazy. But today I actually am happy, and relaxed which I havent been in months, and for weeks havent been able to sleep, even with presciption sleeping pills, last night I just fell asleep feeling good
 
needsize said:
thanks everyone
I didnt think anyone would really understand my decision to not do the second one, especially since if I came in a bit harder, I could beat the same guy at that show for some redemption... But so many things hit me at once when I got some last night, it was crazy. But today I actually am happy, and relaxed which I havent been in months, and for weeks havent been able to sleep, even with presciption sleeping pills, last night I just fell asleep feeling good
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After rereading the other post I get it. From knowing you not suprised you would put your family first just the kinda guy you are. Also with the new job it is smart and next season is just around the corner. Do a level 3 that is closer so I can go watch :)
 
needsize said:
thanks everyone
I didnt think anyone would really understand my decision to not do the second one, especially since if I came in a bit harder, I could beat the same guy at that show for some redemption... But so many things hit me at once when I got some last night, it was crazy. But today I actually am happy, and relaxed which I havent been in months, and for weeks havent been able to sleep, even with presciption sleeping pills, last night I just fell asleep feeling good
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As a competitor I understand you not competing. Hey as long as you are alright with your decision then it's all good. Family comes first and if you compete next year your improvements will be greater next year than they will be in two weeks. Eat, sleep, have fun with your family you deserve it.
 
I touched up the pics a little bit. I don't know if these are better but they are different. That contest was a close one. I can easily see that going your way with a different panel. I like your shape better than his. He seems to have better detail in the back and calves but I think everything else goes your way. Good call on skipping the next show and letting the family life come first for a while. You've got a lot of shows ahead of you and they need their time too.


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I've only been attending shows for a few years, but I am often surprised by the judging. Seems often the person with the best overall package looses. This other guy only looks as good as you in one shot in my and my wife's eyes. No way would I score him better than you overall. Congrats on this and your decision to sit out for a bit. Your an inspiration to this board.....
 
I really can't see how the FUCK this guy beat you. You clearly look better than him. However!!!! I ain't gonna lie...his lat spread in one of those pics does look better than yours. His has more definition. But yours has more size.

Fuck this shit Bro! That had to be fixed! How he beat you...baffles me. Fuck him!
 
great work needsize. Your time and dedication obviously paid off. I'm sure it was a tough decision to blow off the second show...but you have to follow your heart. If you decide to continue with the sport I know that you will take what you have learned from this show and destroy the competition.
 
You look freakin' awsome brother! You guys both looked great. It could have gone either way. I'm partial to the NS, but I definitely think you could have won. Your legs definitely smoke his. It just depends on the judges personal preference in some cases. I hope you are happy with how things turned out, you worked your ass off and it shows. You're the man NS!
 
In my eyes, NS would have one by a small margin. Yes his delts and calves are behind the other guys, but it quads and abs are so far ahead that it more than makes up for those defecits.
 
NS I heard about some other bad calls at this show in the figure short girl that came in 4th is a friend of a friend. Anyways she has competed at nationals in fitness but changed to figure so had to requalify or something along those lines. Anyways she came in 4th but heard her condtioning was the best in her class.
 
congrats on the hard work man,you made tons of improvements since last time around,and next time nobody will even touch you man.
 
this is why bbing is so frustrating, you blew that guy away. i don't see one area he has you on, his abs look like shit and his legs don't hold a candle to yours. bullshit but congrats on looking that incredible man.
 
1st place trophy or no u've really been an inspiration. u look fantastic (pronounced in ah-nold voice). some of us would kill to have a waist as narrow as yours with that kinda man-bulk up top. okay, this is getting ghey...anyway, all the best...
 
only thing i see he had you on is calves. He did have a nice lat spread and his delts looked good in one, but you got him in all other bodyparts as well as in size. good work and congrats on a very difficult job done.
 
Your legs FAR outshined any slight edge he may have had in the upper body tightness. He was not even close with the whole lower 1/2 of his body! You won that shit bro...
 
i see no way how you were taken by the other dood... BS on the judges end. congrats though. 2nd is not bad.
 
Awesome job no matter if you won the contest or not you came in ALOT better shape than your last comp. All that time and energy hitting the weights and eating like a Fn moose payed off and no matter what the judges say you said yourself you were happy how you looked and that is the whole point when you really look at.

He had you in some areas but overall i think you came out on top but I respect and honor your decision to put your "real' life first and let the BB take a back seat.

Congrats you an insperation to us all........
 
Thanks everyone, it was awesome to come home from work tonight to read this feedback...
In the end, I am fine with not taking the 1st place trophy, sure it would have been nice, but in the end, I cant believe the difference in how I look between this contest and the last one, I have to keep going back to the pics to make sure thats me, its sure not what I see when I look in the mirror....
It was tough to blow off the next one, knowing he'll be there, and he cant get bigger in two weeks, but I could own his ass by coming in a little dryer(and the little extra water was my fault, I did shit I knew I wasnt supposed to do). But I keep thinking of stuff today that I have missed with my family in the last few months, and it keeps making me feel shittier and shittier, my son will only be this age once, and he's up to some seriously cool shit(18 months old). Realizing that he has gone from single words to basically sentences in the last few weeks, and I was too busy to see it, even though he was right in front of me....well I cant get that back....but I can make that up to him and my wife....
As soon as my body has a chance to clean out, and it will be a short one, I am hitting the offseason structural training with Laura Binetti, and will come back an absolute beast, my family always makes sure I have time to train, competing will just have to wait a while
 
needsize said:
So I'll start throwing up some pics, they came out super dark and crappy, not sure why as my camera is a 6.1 megapixel, so they should have come out better. So I am playing with them, trying to lighten then up so you can actually see something, but I'm not really good at this stuff.
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As someone who does Photo Effect work on the side, I gotta say your pics disgusted me. :FRlol: j/k

Great work.

Any way I touched them up for you.

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http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/the_fastlife/my_photos
 
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First of all: Congratulasions:)

You truly have a great physique:)

Looking great there bro:)

With my eyes, you should have won.. You are by far bigger than the other guy, and your abs were much tighter.

Good work bro:)

Bet`you look forward to eat your burger now?;)
 
I think you both looked great. Your poses are nice, ches is perfect. so are your tri's.

but if I'd judge this show, you'd def be nr1 in my book.

seriously. no asskisslicksuckupshit
 
NS you look like a beast!! good work, glad to see you are taking positives out of what looks to be a shitty decision!! You are a good bro
 
i think you owned him bro, looked at all the pics and i have to say that hands down it was all you...but congrats..there was a pic though that had you and a guy doing the double back bicep pose...was the guy to the left that beat you out? i have to say, his back did look a little leaner then yours..could have been the pic though
 
I have mad respect for you my friend. You're physique still stand sout among regular guys everywhere, 1st place finish or not. I laso have respect for your decision to put family first. I know it must be hard for you, as you love BB, but the love for your family comes first above all esle. Congratulations! You're an inspiration.
 
thats tough, you have him in alot of categories. I definitely think you look alot better. Congrats on 2nd, and good luck in the future bro. Very impressive!
 
needsize said:
. My family needs that grand more than a plastic trophy right now anyway
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Well put
I think more than anything you should be proud that you spen the time and dedication for this show while most people just talk about what they want to do
You actually did it!
 
screw that man you beat his ass all over the place...
only thing he had on you was delts...im not even counting calves...im not sure how it it in Canada but around here if you "have" calves they cant/dont count it heavly against you.
 
LftHndPwrHouse said:
screw that man you beat his ass all over the place...
only thing he had on you was delts...im not even counting calves...im not sure how it it in Canada but around here if you "have" calves they cant/dont count it heavly against you.
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That's because no one has any :).
 
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Hey NS, my little girl is turning 2 next month man between 18-24 months they do some totally cool shit bro. the more they talk the more amazing stuff they come up with. This sport of BB can be a very selfish sport. YOU ARE doing the right thing by passing on the next show. JOB & Family come first, I mean fuck you got to feed the family right? LOL
 
its really hard to say who is better

he looks bigger has stronger shoulders, arms and tris prob cause hes just taller

you are definitely more leaner and bigger in some areas

this sounds wierd but for me i reckon the oil on you makes him look so much more dryer and mean looking - and IMO only i think his skin colour makes him have the edge
 
Congrats bro! If you came is such a close second, I'm sure the other guy probably feels very lucky that he just squeeked into first (it almost sounds like the judges flipped a coin..LOL). All that hard work and dedication really paid off!
Sorry I won't see you at the Ottawa comp but I understand perfectly where you're coming from..
 
Im so fucking pissed at those fucking judges! You cleary look more ripped (abs hello) and solid (amazing leg size and detail) and overall better put together (top to bottom perfect proportion) ! ARRRGGGHHHH!!!

Wonderfull job regardless of the outcome - you are an inspiration to this board
 
Great job bro, very impressive! I wish I could come even close to that condition/size! I def think you had him beat in size & overall conditioning. He seems to have more muscle maturity and from what I can tell of the pics, it may have simply been that he was better at posing. Posing can make all the difference in the world. Did you record it? I would watch it over & over, then record yourself on a regular basis practicing to see if you can make some adjustments. Or maybe get a few vets to coach ya, especially while you are still in a lean condition. Just my $.02

Congrats also on your family decision, that is something you can never get back.
 
thanks again guys
I didnt record it, but you can buy dvd's of it($85 of all prices), I'm going to get it as my routine brought the house down, so that right there made it worth it as a lot of people were there to see me, and the other routines tended to be just in one place, and I owned the stage, used up every corner, and the crowd absolutely loved it....so having a record of that is as good as any trophy
 
He was slightly more dialed in than you.
Every show you learn your body a bit more.
Next one you should crush him. With your size and a little tighter I don't think there are many out there that would beat you!
Great work!!!
 
You should scratch down 5 months of your diet, training and cycle and sell it for $25.00. Don't even make it fancy, I would pay for it also burn the DVD LOL I'll take a copy for another $25.00 Might as well try to recover some of the money you put out for that comp.
 
NS:
First of all, congratulations on a job well done. I takes a lot to climb that mountain and you made it to the top. As for you son and family, dont dwell on the fact that you had to train with dedication. They love you regardless and I am sure they admire your dedication. You should be proud you have recognized a need (your family) and will take care of that. One day you will be able to tell your son about this show and he will be impressed.

Bless
 
Congrats bro, you looked great!! I thought you beat him hands down, I think he was a bit better at posing and managed to make his physique look more impressive than it actually was. His shoulder positioning was the main difference I thought, especially on the side bi and side tri.

He also looks a little darker and not as shiny as you which looks to have helped him appear more cut.

Would have loved to see you win it bro, now I'm waiting to see how big you get in the offseason under your new trainer!! lol

UglyASS :p
 
physiques so good look better than cartoon characters.. good stuff man.. congrats on the competition and your life changing decision..
 
Which guy beat you? I didn't see anybody that looked better than you bro! Then again, I'm not a judge, but you still kicked ass!
 
You are Winner in my book, and it takes alot to put something that you love aside to do more with the ones you love. Good Luck bro
 
you look great

you had him on size in Chest, Quads, and Arms
you also look denser then him

he had you on Back definition, and that "dry look"

also I dont know if your were sweating or you put oil on but then gloss took away from you


all in all your gettig bigger and bigger !

great stuff!
 
OMEGA said:
you look great

you had him on size in Chest, Quads, and Arms
you also look denser then him

he had you on Back definition, and that "dry look"

also I dont know if your were sweating or you put oil on but then gloss took away from you


all in all your gettig bigger and bigger !

great stuff!
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I just got another set of pics from someone else, and wow, they show the size difference even better than these pics....still, I wish I was as dry as I was the day before, my fault though
 
OMEGA said:
post the pics! :)

you need to post in the Anabolic board your first pics ala:

http://www.clintdarden.com/pics/misc/needsize2.jpg

and now!
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those werent even my first pics, that was at the end of my 3rd cycle. I could track down some pics over the last few years, but I dont wanna look like I am hogging the anabolic board with new pics every few days
 
you still got him on size so this just means you came in over conditioned probabaly wich casued you to have a rebound in water after you had that cheat meal
 
needsize said:
thanks again guys
I didnt record it, but you can buy dvd's of it($85 of all prices), I'm going to get it as my routine brought the house down, so that right there made it worth it as a lot of people were there to see me, and the other routines tended to be just in one place, and I owned the stage, used up every corner, and the crowd absolutely loved it....so having a record of that is as good as any trophy
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rip that DVD and upload the routine!!!!!!!!!!
 
You look awesome needsize, but there is no way you need me to tell you that dude.
Damn. Which show was that or did I miss that posted?
 
Nathan said:
You look awesome needsize, but there is no way you need me to tell you that dude.
Damn. Which show was that or did I miss that posted?
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thanks, it was the london show
Havent seen you around in a while, where have you been hiding?

DBBT, I will, but it'll be weeks before I get it, they arent all that quick
 
needsize said:
thanks, it was the london show
Havent seen you around in a while, where have you been hiding?

DBBT, I will, but it'll be weeks before I get it, they arent all that quick
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Been around. Back in school so been busy with that. What's new with you? I hear the London show was tough competition this year. When the next's show you plan on doing?
 
Nathan said:
Been around. Back in school so been busy with that. What's new with you? I hear the London show was tough competition this year. When the next's show you plan on doing?
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no immediate plans for competing again soon. I dont really want to do it until I can add at least another 15-20lbs of mass to my frame, so that will take a while. Right now just concentrating on a new job, and spending the time with my baby and wife that I missed when I was dieting
 
needsize said:
no immediate plans for competing again soon. I dont really want to do it until I can add at least another 15-20lbs of mass to my frame, so that will take a while. Right now just concentrating on a new job, and spending the time with my baby and wife that I missed when I was dieting
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Sounds like a perfect plan to me boss. I take it you're trying to get up into the heavies then.
 
not trying to be a dick.. but wtf are some of those guys in the backround even competing..
 
Nathan said:
Sounds like a perfect plan to me boss. I take it you're trying to get up into the heavies then.
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thats the plan if I compete again, i was only 2lbs or so out of the heavies, if I compete again, I want to be at least 15lbs over the bottom of the class, even more if possible.
 
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