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HumorMe

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I am having computer problems. I'm don't know computer lingo and things so please try and keep it simple for little ole dumbass me.

I have two fairly new computers. One is mine and one is the kids. Mine is a 2.8GHZ, 768RAM, Sony 19"LCD screen. My kids have a 1.8GHZ, 512RAM, 18"LCD screen.

They are on a wireless Linksys 802.11B router with my computer being the one hooked to the router through the DSL modem. The router was installed about two months ago.

My nephew set it up and it has worked great. About 3 weeks ago, their computer started acting strange. It slowed down to the point that it wouldn't let them sign on to AOL. Internet Explorer worked but it was slow also.

My nephew took it with him to check it out and the kids started using mine and it started doing the same thing. My nephew checked it out and he deleted a few things and said it was running fine at his house(which is in another city).

He brought the computer back and hooked everything up and got mine to working good but could never get their's to sign onto AOL and Internet Explorer was still slow.

My DSL status says mine is running at 100.0mps. Their connection is running at 11.0mps and the router signal strength says it is real strong. I tried to check their conncetion through dslreports.com but cannot seem to complete their testing. I've waited as much 30 minutes for their testing to finish but it had not so I clicked off of it.

In layman's terms, what could the problem be? I've checked a few computer forums to see if I could find someone else with a problem like mine but I haven't had any success so far. Any help would be appreciated!
 
I'm just guessing here, but I had similar problems shortly after I installed my router (which I bought solely for the firewall). I'm running it through a cable modem. The modem will indicate that the connection is running fine, but my internet access would suddenly slow down dramatically, or disappear altogether.

So when the connection starts to slow down, I start by unplugging the router and plugging it back in again. If that doesn't work, I do the same thing with the modem (which leads me to believe I might need a new modem instead.) I currently have to do this ever few days.

I'm going to try disengaging the router for a week or so and see if that improves anything. If not, I'll probably look at getting a new modem.

So I'm not sure if that's been any help, but you might try reseting, or even disengaging the router and see if that makes a difference.

And one more thing, that bathroom wallpaper is way busy. :supercool
 
yea, mine was doing that. I had to unplug the modem and router then plug the modem in and let it come up and as soon as it came up, plug the router in. That worked fine on my computer but not my kids computer.

It is a wireless router so I don't think if my computer was running fine and there's was slowly working or not working at all, it would be the router but I am probably wrong because I don't know shit about anything.

Wallpaper isn't busy. You are just too idle.:D
 
This has happened to me several times, it has alwasys been caused by spyware or viruses, spyware beign the most common.

Your kids are probably going to certain sites that are installing this spyware on your system.

Download a program called Adware by LAvasoft (do a search and you'll find it quick). they have a free download, install it and update the definitions. Change the settings "Select folderand drives to scan" and pick the entire C drive. This will fish out whatever is bugging you puter.
 
SoreArms said:
This has happened to me several times, it has alwasys been caused by spyware or viruses, spyware beign the most common.

Your kids are probably going to certain sites that are installing this spyware on your system.

Download a program called Adware by LAvasoft (do a search and you'll find it quick). they have a free download, install it and update the definitions. Change the settings "Select folderand drives to scan" and pick the entire C drive. This will fish out whatever is bugging you puter.
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I run this scan about every week or so, but I haven't changed the settings. If it doesn't default to scan the entire hard drive, what does it scan?

HumorMe: Am not.

OWNED.
 
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gymtime said:
I run this scan about every week or so, but I haven't changed the settings. If it doesn't default to scan the entire hard drive, what does it scan?

HumorMe: Am not.

OWNED.
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The default settings will only search certain folders, but not your entire drive. A couple of months ago, my room mate told me that he suddenly was not able to open IE and log on to theinternet, I checked it out and confirmed what he said. I ran Adware, it found and delted a few "data miner" files, but the problem was still there. I then changed the settings and had it scan the entire drive and found "malware" in folders that were not being scanned by the default settings (I guess they are getting smart about it). Once these were deleted, the PC continued to function properly. Give it a shot and I'll bet you'll find tons of hidden spyware.
 
You probably have a virus and/or some kinda spyware.

Are you running anti-virus software on this machine? If not, get it and scan your machine.

Do you use Outlook or Outlook express for email? Have you been sent any virus infected emails? (FWIW, try out Thunderbird for an email client. It's a freebie that will remove you from Outlook's security issues, yet it looks, acts and smells like Outlook.)

Is this machine up to date with patches? Assuming XP here...

Otherwise, trying installing and running Spybot and Adaware.

Check to see if you have a trojan installed:

http://scan.sygate.com/

Multi-layered defense is best. Firewall, Updates, Anti-virus, scans for spyware and heavy weaponry to hold the serfs at bay.

Let me know how it goes...
 
jnuts said:
You probably have a virus and/or some kinda spyware.

Are you running anti-virus software on this machine? If not, get it and scan your machine.

Do you use Outlook or Outlook express for email? Have you been sent any virus infected emails? (FWIW, try out Thunderbird for an email client. It's a freebie that will remove you from Outlook's security issues, yet it looks, acts and smells like Outlook.)

Is this machine up to date with patches? Assuming XP here...

Otherwise, trying installing and running Spybot and Adaware.

Check to see if you have a trojan installed:

http://scan.sygate.com/

Multi-layered defense is best. Firewall, Updates, Anti-virus, scans for spyware and heavy weaponry to hold the serfs at bay.

Let me know how it goes...
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Everybody seems to saying the same thing so I will try this. It does have Norton anti-virus and all of that stuff and it does a weekly update.

It is Windows XP. For email writing and receiving, they use AOL mail. We are on that $14.95 Broadband plan. They don't receive mail any other way.
 
HumorMe said:
Everybody seems to saying the same thing so I will try this. It does have Norton anti-virus and all of that stuff and it does a weekly update.
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When is the last time you had norton run a full scan of your computer?
 
Spyware, adware or someone is jackin your bandwidth.

Have your neph, Check the WEP settings on your network.

1. enable the encryption if not already done and
2. rename the network I bet it is still named linksys.
 
Another thing to try....

START - RUN - type in "Msconfig"

CLick on the "Startup tab" - there might be some goofy shit that gets loaded that you don't want loaded....

And Woody's got a great idea about enabling WEP
 
Right now, I'm trying to download adaware and it won't even do that. Fuck!


How do I do that WEP stuff. I'm as illiterate as it comes when it comes to computers.

I need that book "Windows for Dumbass Nimrods"
 
jnuts said:
Another thing to try....

START - RUN - type in "Msconfig"

CLick on the "Startup tab" - there might be some goofy shit that gets loaded that you don't want loaded....
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I did that and I checked it out. What is Backweb?
 
HumorMe said:
Right now, I'm trying to download adaware and it won't even do that. Fuck!

How do I do that WEP stuff. I'm as illiterate as it comes when it comes to computers.

I need that book "Windows for Dumbass Nimrods"
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WEP is the least of your worries right now...

I think you might be hijacked....

Can you go here? Check to see if you have a trojan installed:

http://scan.sygate.com/

Try downloading Spybot instead of adaware.

Try initiating a manual virus scan.
 
OK. I can't even download the spy programs because the computer is so freakin slow.

Is there any way I can download the spy program onto a disk from my computer and install it on their computer?

I'm getting frustrated with that computer right now.
 
I haven't answered because I have no ideas.
 
HumorMe said:
OK. I can't even download the spy programs because the computer is so freakin slow.

Is there any way I can download the spy program onto a disk from my computer and install it on their computer?

I'm getting frustrated with that computer right now.
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Yeah, you should be able to do that - if it's too big for a floopy, just burn it to a CD on the good computer and bring it over to the other one.

Another option is to try booting into SAFE mode and then download the stuff.

When the boot window comes up, it will list options on how to get into safe mode.
 
jnuts said:
Yeah, you should be able to do that - if it's too big for a floopy, just burn it to a CD on the good computer and bring it over to the other one.

Another option is to try booting into SAFE mode and then download the stuff.

When the boot window comes up, it will list options on how to get into safe mode.
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I'll try that and see what happens.


That's OK Dial Tone. Thanks.
 
jnuts said:
Yeah, you should be able to do that - if it's too big for a floopy, just burn it to a CD on the good computer and bring it over to the other one.

Another option is to try booting into SAFE mode and then download the stuff.

When the boot window comes up, it will list options on how to get into safe mode.
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OK jnuts. I burned a CD with Spybot on it and downloaded to that computer and ran it. It did find a lot of backweb, backweb lite, DSO Exploit, Wild Tangent and some others(can't remember the names..meant to write them down but fixed them)

Performance hasn't budged yet. It is XP and the kids have their own log on names and passwords. WOuld I have to run spybot on each name account?
 
>>It won't even load that page to scan for a trojan!

Will it load ANY web pages?

>>Performance hasn't budged yet. It is XP and the kids have their own log on names and passwords. WOuld I have to run spybot on each name account?

Good question, that I don't know the answer too - can't hurt to try. Do these accounts have admin permisions on them? If they do, remove it. It will solve problems in the future.

Can you reach web pages if you boot into safe mode (with networking)?
 
jnuts said:
>>It won't even load that page to scan for a trojan!

Will it load ANY web pages?



Can you reach web pages if you boot into safe mode (with networking)?
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Google.com...it will load that but it doesn't have much on the page to slow it down. It's probably loading from it's cache.

I'm ignorant to how to boot in safe mode so please explain in layman's terms...sorry. :verygood:
 
HumorMe said:
Google.com...it will load that but it doesn't have much on the page to slow it down. It's probably loading from it's cache.

I'm ignorant to how to boot in safe mode so please explain in layman's terms...sorry. :verygood:
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From http://windows.about.com/library/tips/bltip601.htm

Nothing can be more frustrating than when your computer won't boot properly. Whether you've made a recent change, installed a bad driver, or whatever, sometimes the darn thing just won't come back up right after powering down. There is a hidden boot menu in Windows XP that has an option that can help. When the Operating System first starts (after the power on self test), press the F8 key on your keyboard. This will display a menu on a black background, which has an option called "Safe Mode." Actually there are a couple different Safe Mode options, depending on whether you want to use the network, or just a command prompt. Choosing Safe Mode will allow you to at least boot up, so that you can uninstall a bad driver, or change problematic system settings, etc
 
jnuts said:
From http://windows.about.com/library/tips/bltip601.htm

Nothing can be more frustrating than when your computer won't boot properly. Whether you've made a recent change, installed a bad driver, or whatever, sometimes the darn thing just won't come back up right after powering down. There is a hidden boot menu in Windows XP that has an option that can help. When the Operating System first starts (after the power on self test), press the F8 key on your keyboard. This will display a menu on a black background, which has an option called "Safe Mode." Actually there are a couple different Safe Mode options, depending on whether you want to use the network, or just a command prompt. Choosing Safe Mode will allow you to at least boot up, so that you can uninstall a bad driver, or change problematic system settings, etc
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OK....I'm going to try this plus a few other things you have mentioned. Sometimes I hate these damn machines. I told my kids that if they break the computer, I wasn't fixing it!!!!!They would just have to deal with it. Idle threats is what I call them but you see who is trying to fix it.

I guess it has something to do with $$$$ is why I want to fix it. No since in spending that kind of money on a new computer and LCD for it to sit idle.

I'll see what happens. :)

Thanks and I will bump this if I have progress on it.
 
HumorMe said:
Thanks and I will bump this if I have progress on it.
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This is one of those things that can probably be found in 2 mins by a geek on site. It's a painful learning experience for those who are (ahem) less adept at moving their way around computers. You'll be better for it after it's fixed :)

Fix up your house, fix up your computers :)
 
HumorMe said:
It is XP and the kids have their own log on names and passwords. WOuld I have to run spybot on each name account?
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I've never used spybot, but in Adware, it is the reason why I change the deafult settings t oscan entire drive. Does spybot have similar settings.
 
First, do not download the drivers off the cd that came with it.

Second, go to your C:Program Files and erase file "Router" if you did.

Third, unplug modem and router and then let them power up and connect.

Fourth, let XP find all the connections automatically. The drivers on the CD
can interfere with this.

Fifth, go to linksys.com and download the newest flashwear for that model router which has some AOL fixes I believe.

If you are lazy, you might try the flashwear upgrade first. It might solve the problem by itself.
 
Problem with wireless is that anybody can use it. You can buy a device for $30 and walk around the neighborhood. A green light will turn on when somebody is wireless. With some equipment, you can use their internet.


This is a serious possibility bro.
 
Testosterone boy said:
Problem with wireless is that anybody can use it. You can buy a device for $30 and walk around the neighborhood. A green light will turn on when somebody is wireless. With some equipment, you can use their internet.


This is a serious possibility bro.
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You've got to wrap that rascal. Turn on WEP and change default settings. If you make it hard, your less savory types will move on to easier pastures..
 
jnuts said:
You've got to wrap that rascal. Turn on WEP and change default settings. If you make it hard, your less savory types will move on to easier pastures..
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Yep, turn on WEP, change the SSID and use encryption. Not bullet proof, but good enough in most cases

BTW
not to change the subject, but anyone know of any info on hacking the wireless hot spots at Starbucks and Borders?
 
SoreArms said:
BTW
not to change the subject, but anyone know of any info on hacking the wireless hot spots at Starbucks and Borders?
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Just use the standard script kiddie tools. Download 'em and give it a shot.
 
jnuts

I am scanning the computer right now for a trojan through sygate. Don't know why it is letting me do it now since it wouldn't load last night. Will let you know how it turns out as soon as I know something. It said something like 20 minutes for the scan but will probably take longer.
 
Damn I hate computers!

I scanned that computer and disabled the firewall and disabled the norton anti-virus protect. It is still saying that my computer was blocking their probes.

Since that computer is wireless and my computer is hooked through the same router would I have to disable all of my stuff(firewall, anit-virus,etc.) on my good computer for it to scan the ports? I hate this shit...who said being stupid is not tough.
 
HumorMe said:
My DSL status says mine is running at 100.0mps. Their connection is running at 11.0mps and the router signal strength says it is real strong. I tried to check their conncetion through dslreports.com but cannot seem to complete their testing. I've waited as much 30 minutes for their testing to finish but it had not so I clicked off of it.
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Hmmm....

Your computer is working fine, but their computer is not.

Is the only thing not working good on their computer the internet access? Is everything else snappy when it tries to run?
 
If worse comes to worse, just do a reformat and reinstall XP from scratch. Back in the '98 days a reformat was a nightmare, but XP makes it fairly easy.

But this would be your last option, try everything else first.
 
jnuts said:
Hmmm....

Your computer is working fine, but their computer is not.

Is the only thing not working good on their computer the internet access? Is everything else snappy when it tries to run?
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Yes, everything else seems to run fine.

Internet explorer runs but is slow(super slow) and AOL just plain won't sign on.
 
HumorMe said:
Yes, everything else seems to run fine.

Internet explorer runs but is slow(super slow) and AOL just plain won't sign on.
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Download Adware with your good computer and install it on your bad one.
 
You also might want to try using a different browser as IE might be wacked. Try to download and install

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

(you'll need to download on the good machine)

At this point, I'm not sure if you have some nefarious software or if it's a networking thing. I'm inclined to think bad software because this wasn't a problem for you until recently.
 
jnuts said:
You also might want to try using a different browser as IE might be wacked. Try to download and install

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

(you'll need to download on the good machine)

At this point, I'm not sure if you have some nefarious software or if it's a networking thing. I'm inclined to think bad software because this wasn't a problem for you until recently.
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I have already downloaded mozilla onto my good computer. It won't fit on a disk but would it fit onto a CD?

I'm thinking software also but what do I know!?! Not shit I tell you!:)
 
HumorMe said:
What if I have already installed Spybot? Will that pose a problem?
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I have never used spybot, but I would say no.

There are people who use both for double protection. They claim that although both programs perform similarly each catches things that the other one doesn't.
 
HumorMe said:
I have already downloaded mozilla onto my good computer. It won't fit on a disk but would it fit onto a CD?

I'm thinking software also but what do I know!?! Not shit I tell you!:)
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Ya, it will fit on a CD.
 
i didn't read the whole thread so maybe someone already asked this, but if you are running wireless how are you operating at 100mbps? the oldest wireless technology is 11mbps and if im not mistaken 802.11g will hit 54mbps? (but don't quote me on that)
 
almost-pro said:
i didn't read the whole thread so maybe someone already asked this, but if you are running wireless how are you operating at 100mbps? the oldest wireless technology is 11mbps and if im not mistaken 802.11g will hit 54mbps? (but don't quote me on that)
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I have two computers. The one I am on now is is the main computer that is hardwired to the router through the modem.

The one I am having trouble with is wireless and is in another room and that one is running at 11.0mbps.

I've tried about everything offered on this thread so far but without luck.
 
I can relate HumorMe.

I feel like a fossil at times. Everybody just expects me to be able to do all these things with a computer. Thye frustrate me greatly at times.
 
HumorMe said:
I've installed all of those things on that computer and no change.

Can someone come over and open a second story window for me?
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Now I'm wondering if it's your wireless connection.

Do you have a normal (wired) connection available for the computer that isn't working? Pluging into the router with a wired connection would trouble shoot that pretty quick. Heck, move the brokee computer next to the other one might trouble shoot the situation.

Try this...

START - RUN, type "CMD" then enter.

type in "ping www.cnn.com"

it should ping without any problems. If it shows dropped packets, you might have an issue with the wireless connection.
 
HumorMe said:
The one I am having trouble with is wireless and is in another room and that one is running at 11.0mbps.
.
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BTW, did you buy any new cordless phones lately (like when this problem started happening) Anything running on 2.4 GHZ in the house?
 
DVDA said:
First, do not download the drivers off the cd that came with it.

Second, go to your C:Program Files and erase file "Router" if you did.

Third, unplug modem and router and then let them power up and connect.

Fourth, let XP find all the connections automatically. The drivers on the CD
can interfere with this.

Fifth, go to linksys.com and download the newest flashwear for that model router which has some AOL fixes I believe.

If you are lazy, you might try the flashwear upgrade first. It might solve the problem by itself.
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Have you tried following DVDA's advice?

Life sucks right now, doesn't it? :)
 
jnuts said:
BTW, did you buy any new cordless phones lately (like when this problem started happening) Anything running on 2.4 GHZ in the house?
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That's strange because we got a cordless phone for Christmas but didn't hook it up until a couple of months ago when we started having trouble. I will try that.

Yes, it sucks right now for my kids.

Mine is running fine.:D
 
jnuts said:
Now I'm wondering if it's your wireless connection.

Do you have a normal (wired) connection available for the computer that isn't working? Pluging into the router with a wired connection would trouble shoot that pretty quick. Heck, move the brokee computer next to the other one might trouble shoot the situation.

Try this...

START - RUN, type "CMD" then enter.

type in "ping www.cnn.com"

it should ping without any problems. If it shows dropped packets, you might have an issue with the wireless connection.
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I just did this....

Ping statistics for 64.236.16.20;
Packets sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4(100% loss)
 
HumorMe said:
That's strange because we got a cordless phone for Christmas but didn't hook it up until a couple of months ago when we started having trouble. I will try that.
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Yeah, check this aspect out as it might be sliming your wireless connection.
 
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