Clomid=Impotetance!!!

[jasonstrong]

I don't know why I did this but here goes...
was kicking very nicely from 5 weeks of a 1.2 gram week cycle of Test Cyp, no noticeable shrinkage, volume still up and sex drive up.
to start cutting I added in 600mgs of Deca/EQ combo and 675 mgs of TA a week with 50mgs oral Winny and 35 mgs Anavar. I also upped the cardio a bit, added 25 mikes of T3 and 60 mikes of Clen.
with in 4 weeks I felt miserable, shrinkage lack of sex drive reduced appetite insomnia reduced volume lethargy. fatigue....Figured I was really shut down and started on 300,200, and 100 mgs clomid (5 days at each dose) for 15 days..well on the 11 th day of "restoration therapy" my thing died completely...I mean dead...my girl was crying and I was depressed.....and my BP was too high to go swallow some liqid steel-viagra/cilias combo.
Cut out everything and went back on 600mgs of Test Enath per week and after 3 weeks full strung again.....


Clomid sucks, as I did not lose my "mojo" 'till I hit it.

I donated the remaining liquid clo to the local sewer.

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

hmmmm. i'm thinking it was the deca.

 

[khaled]

that is strange........how can clomid do that? and why do people always use it post cycle? would HCG be better?

 

[Nelson Montana]

that is strange........how can clomid do that? ?

Because


CLOMID BLOWS!!!

 

[khaled]

what do you mean by blows?

 

[haxedout]

Because


CLOMID BLOWS!!!

sure works good for me and the other 90% of the board....

 

[tempest2003]

viagra was origionally designed to be a blood pressure drug, from what I understand you can take viagra if you have high blood pressure, i may be mistaken though, dunno about cilias

 

[DeepZenPill]

I bet your main problem was the hard shutdown from the deca and tren. Not to mention the fact that you were on a load of AAS no matter what it was.

 

[rvd_brock]

hmmmm. i'm thinking it was the deca.

Me too.......I've heard about complete shutdown in several pplz. Try some Novaldex, maybe?

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

5 weeks of a 1.2 gram week cycle of Test...I added in 600mgs of Deca/EQ combo and 675 mgs of TA a week with 50mgs oral Winny and 35 mgs Anavar. I also added 25 mikes of T3 and 60 mikes of Clen.

That is a lot of drugs in your system to just blame the "shutdown" on Clomid. When you are taking that much it could be a number of different physiological functions going wrong. just my 2cc

 

[poantrex]

You didn't take it long enough- In my experience, clomid sucks while you're taking it but you'll recover fairly nicely if you take it for a couple of months. You didn't really give it a chance to work.

 

[jasonstrong]

Well yes it could have been the deca, EQ or other anabolics...but in similar very similar cycles with out the clomid I was feeling suppressed, but took no clomid and had zero wood problems.

go figure as every cycle training and chemical wise affects you differently I think because of external factors like stress, etc.

It's always been hit and miss for me and clomid sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't....the vision problems and emotional response caused by clomid does not help make it's use popular.
Also in those weeks I really upped my calories and dropped carbs and prolly overtrained too....so that did not help......the clomid kind of just stood out and I was expecting too much from it-to restart me while still hitting it.

BTW the doses posted are not recommended for anyone, even if you are close to 300 like me.....it's a matter of personal choice use the least amount you can..eat tons of protein, train hard heavy and brief and get adequate rest and you can grow off of 200 mg a week of test...I know because I bridge between cycles for 6-10 weeks, and may not blow up but continue to maintain mass and stimulate growth.

thanks for the replies....

 

[houseofpain]

I would venture to guess that at 300mg of clomid (which exceeds the manufacturers recommended maximum dosage by 50mg), was what brought on the side effects that you experienced. Vision problems are listed as "rare" in terms of the number of people that experience them when taking normal dosages.

Also, from what I've read in your post, your body's natural testosterone production is essentially "still" shut down. Juicing up with test gave you back the wood because you just reintroduced what your body apparently isn't producing on its own anymore.

Sounds like you need to get off the juice long enough to see if your body will restart on its own, and if not see a doctor to see how much you've messed yourself up. After an 18 week cycle, I would imagine that your body is going to need some serious juice-free down time to start working properly again.

 

[jasonstrong]

I would venture to guess that at 300mg of clomid (which exceeds the manufacturers recommended maximum dosage by 50mg), was what brought on the side effects that you experienced. Vision problems are listed as "rare" in terms of the number of people that experience them when taking normal dosages.

Also, from what I've read in your post, your body's natural testosterone production is essentially "still" shut down. Juicing up with test gave you back the wood because you just reintroduced what your body apparently isn't producing on its own anymore.

Sounds like you need to get off the juice long enough to see if your body will restart on its own, and if not see a doctor to see how much you've messed yourself up. After an 18 week cycle, I would imagine that your body is going to need some serious juice-free down time to start working properly again.

I am never coming off sorry....I will stay on replacement therapy for the remainder of my years when I am done....I am tapering now as we speak and will stay on replacement therapy till I start again.

This is a very rare occasion when I mega dose stack multiple compounds, as every few cycles I think I have to really load up on multiple compounds for the potentiation effect which the sides outweigh any gains so it's better for me to saty on test about a gram a week for 8-12 weeks go on replacement therapy doses for 8 weeks or more etc.

In normal men with hypogonadism why is it ok for them to stay on test year round?
People don't understand the concept of replacement therapy..it is replacing what is a low out put of test for normal functions...after 4 weeks of 200 mgs every 5 days my nads are full size again and so are the loads...this way I don't go up and down and down and up.
as for damage I'd say that I am still good as I have gotten ex's and or current girls pregnant 6 times in the last 3 years while on heavily, but only have one child- don't ask-it's a womens thing-their choice I guess.

As for damage..it's a mixed bag of tricks..is it the juice that killed me early or the 100lbs over my normal bodyweight...or all the excessive foods..most likely a combination of all three...I just got a complete profile pulled this morning so I will post results, there is a sane way to do these things and I am by no means kamikazee....it all goes back to the quality of life you wanna lead...

 

[houseofpain]

Your veins, your heart, your liver, your kidneys, your choice...

But if you're going to exceed all the recommended maximums in dosages and duration, I think it's pretty irresponsible for you to introduce your resulting problems as factual evidence to the majority of those who are following sane cycles.

(e.g. clomid=impotence).

For people that do normal cycles clomid is an excellent way to regain natural production levels of testosterone. And if taken in the proper dosage, sides are minimal if at all.