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Clenbuterol Results

What were your Clenbuterol Results?


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sirskeletron

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I was thinking of trying this out.. Was trying to find about how much I would lose on a cycle of this but I guess it would be hard to estimate since everybody is different...

Post what your cycle was like too..

Thanks
 
It all depends on your sarting point, where your BF is at to begin with. Besides the real power lies in the diet, not the clen. Jeez, everyone wants to just open a bottle or fill a needle and sit back and wait for results. Hardwork is the underlying ground work for gaining or losing.
 
clen wont do anything for anyone that doesnt have a clean diet... I know because i would be clean for the week and lose upwards of 7lbs then over the weekend i would go out and have fun and eat what i wanted and would be basically back to the starting point... It is amazing if you can do cardio 2-4 times a week, lifting (obviously), and keeping a CLEAN DIET
 
Sirskeleton dont have such high hopes. Clen is not the miracle drug you may think it is. I and many others can attest to that. Make sure your diet is on point when you take it though.
 
slyder190 said:
It all depends on your sarting point, where your BF is at to begin with. Besides the real power lies in the diet, not the clen. Jeez, everyone wants to just open a bottle or fill a needle and sit back and wait for results. Hardwork is the underlying ground work for gaining or losing.

I know it all depends on your BF and diet and blah blah blah.. That's common sense but that has nothing to do with my question or poll... I was wondering what Everyone else's results from clenbuterol is... I know I am not going to open a bottle up and then POOF there goes the fat.. hahaha.. I am still trying to figure out where you guys are getting that I am thinking these things.. Nothing in my posts says anything like that.. I can get a general idea from everyone else's results though... Anyway thanks for your input though!
 
For me the results with clen are comparable to an ECA stack...except for one thing...

Clen doesn't kill my appetite. So I really have to pay more attention to my diet.
 
AMEN
slyder190 said:
It all depends on your sarting point, where your BF is at to begin with. Besides the real power lies in the diet, not the clen. Jeez, everyone wants to just open a bottle or fill a needle and sit back and wait for results. Hardwork is the underlying ground work for gaining or losing.
 
You better drink A LOT of water while taking clen or you will cramp up real bad. I made this mistake and got cramps everywhere. It was horrible. Cramps in my feet, lats, you name it. Drink water! It's the miracle drug.
 
you should have potassium ready incase of cramps... not everyone gets them but dam they suck in the middle of the night
 
ace6921 said:
You better drink A LOT of water while taking clen or you will cramp up real bad. I made this mistake and got cramps everywhere. It was horrible. Cramps in my feet, lats, you name it. Drink water! It's the miracle drug.


You WILL get cramps out the ass if you are not careful.

My jaw muscle cramped one morning and it was literally just about the most painful thing I've ever experienced.
 
i know ive said this before. But watch out for clen , especially with liquids. If you arent careful you could end up in the hospital.

i was REALLY DUMB and took two ip superclen (without ketofin) .. I thought it was Nolvadex......i ended up spending the night on the heart floor.
 
i lose as much as i need to at the time whether it be 5 lbs or 15lbs. depends on doses and diet as well. i usually throw in T3 with my clen for even great effect.
 
slyder190 said:
It all depends on your sarting point, where your BF is at to begin with. Besides the real power lies in the diet, not the clen. Jeez, everyone wants to just open a bottle or fill a needle and sit back and wait for results. Hardwork is the underlying ground work for gaining or losing.


Sign worthy
 
never had any results with clen, no thermo effects,no shakes , no nothing.

haveing better luck with eca, at least im feeling it.
 
mr.nitrofish said:
never had any results with clen, no thermo effects,no shakes , no nothing.

haveing better luck with eca, at least im feeling it.


Get some AG guys Clen. That shit will rock your world. I can't even take the stuff it's so strong. Clen is not for me.
 
I've got a bottle from AG Guys right here on my desk... I was planning on starting a major cutting regimine this week but I partially slipped a disk in the gym last week. Now i might as well be a fuckin parapalegic. I cant move for shit!

Man it blows so bad... I was doing so well *sigh*. Hopefully I will be walking like a guy under 97 years old by the end of this week... :worried:


Im anxious to get in there and try and shake these last few BF%'s. I have Thermorex, Glucorell, Sesapure, CardioBreeze, YES, L-taurine and Clen all on hand. IM READY DAMNIT! grrrrrr :chomp: :chomp: :chomp:
 
immortalis said:
Im anxious to get in there and try and shake these last few BF%'s. I have Thermorex, Glucorell, Sesapure, CardioBreeze, YES, L-taurine and Clen all on hand. IM READY DAMNIT! grrrrrr :chomp: :chomp: :chomp:

Highly reccomend you add ALCAR when running clenbuterol to protect against potential cardiac and muscular apoptosis.

also some form of dietary or supplemental potassium and magnesium.
 
Slyder190 said:
It all depends on your sarting point, where your BF is at to begin with. Besides the real power lies in the diet, not the clen. Jeez, everyone wants to just open a bottle or fill a needle and sit back and wait for results. Hardwork is the underlying ground work for gaining or losing.


So I can't drink winny and eat cheeze curls and expect to get jacked? WTF?!?!?

:FRlol:
 
I lost 8lbs in the first week on clen then nothing. I build tolerances to things really fast. ECA's do nothing for me I can take 3 then go have a nap :(
I heard that taking benadryl while taking clen will stop tolerance so i'm going to try that.
 
emeraldeyes_bc said:
I lost 8lbs in the first week on clen then nothing. I build tolerances to things really fast. ECA's do nothing for me I can take 3 then go have a nap :(
I heard that taking benadryl while taking clen will stop tolerance so i'm going to try that.


I have read many times that benadryl keeps your receptors from degrading as much as normal, so you can effectively run Clen for a longer time period than the normal 2weeks on 2weeks off cycle.

I however, dont have any personal experience trying it. Please keep me updated on your observations EE :coffee:
 
I did not actually lose weight, but it worked better than any eca I have ever tried. I would sweat all day. I did notice some definition around the abs. I am in the middle of a cutting cycle and cycling clen with it and I have noticed the clen working more and more as I get lower in body-fat. I take only 100mg/daily but I'll through in 1 ripped fuel and 1 yohimbe tab when I want more of an effect, plus some green tea and I am good to go.
 
Slyder190 said:
It all depends on your sarting point, where your BF is at to begin with. Besides the real power lies in the diet, not the clen. Jeez, everyone wants to just open a bottle or fill a needle and sit back and wait for results. Hardwork is the underlying ground work for gaining or losing.

I'm so tired of people right away assuming that the person that asks about some drug thinks it's a "magic drug".
Just because he posts a poll/question about a fatburning drug, doesn't mean he's ignorant about that diet is the key. Why do so many believe that? There are not many people that thinks you can "just open a bottle or fill a needle and sit back and wait for results", did you believe that before? ... :coffee:

jjeeeeeez
 
It depends on the manufacturer. I have absolutely no success with Mexican Oxyflux. It makes me irritable, crampy and gives me the shakes - but not much fat loss. Spiro is the opposite. The sides weren't bad and the fat loss was amazing.
 
didn't see any results from my run with clen....i used 2 different bottles from AG and some from IP i believe. I started off light just like you should, ramping up from 20mcg to 80mcg. long story short, I ended up around 200-240mcg on my 3rd or 4th run and still felt nothing.....no shakes, no weight loss, no drop in BF, nada. won't waste my money again....won't waste my time again if it were given to me. my 2 cents

~Alc
 
This is an intersting thread. It seems to indicate something that I've suspected for a while now: clen is not a whole lot more effective than eca for many people. I'm just glad that it seems the use of DNP has subsided. A few years ago it was pretty popular for people on this board to be using DNP - which I always thought was a little nuts.
 
Clen works great,

if you have real clen, spiorpent is real and if you are dieting and doing cardio,

Other wise it is like everything else, a waste.
 
I just couldnt handle the sides because of the work I do with my hands but i swear after 2 week I think I noticed slight results.....
 
i lost almost 16 pounds when i ran it with t3. but i definitly know that my diet had to do with 80% of the fat loss!
 
I have a friend who is not fat but definitely is overweight. Hes gonna run a test cycle also with clen. He thinks hes gonna achieve a 6 pack from clen, honestly i think hes making a mistake and i always tell him to read up on what hes gonna take before he does it, he "claims" he has but i know he hasnt. Anyways I'm paranoid the kid is gonna take entirely too much and end up flat on his face...should i be this paranoid?
 
holy ghost said:
yes ben there.

Shit well thats no good Id rather him party with me at night you know a little "sniff sniff" that way i could be in control of what hes doing...hah anyways thats the true way to cut! lol
 
I dropped 15 lbs in 4 weeks. I took clen during weeks 1,2, and 4. It took benadryl during the 3rd week. This was in combination with a keto diet :). I only stopped because I was very happy with the results. I kept my strength and I think clen helped with that. The shakes were bad the first day I started. I couldn't take notes in class haha.
 
i didn't lose much weight, but it was definatly noticeable in my mid section after cutting back on some food and increasing cardio.
 
letsrun4it said:
ive never lost any weight on clen and always looked like i was on drugs with the shaking.

Shaking is common I hear.
 
I've done clen, moderately for two weeks at a time here and there and never noticed anything major. But, recently with sub 10% bf, I could really see a difference. I'm guessing I might have lost 2-3 lbs tops, but an actual 2-3 lbs of pure fat over the course of 12 days is kinda cool to see. I know a lot of people see that kind of fat loss without it, but as you get farther into your diet, the progress tends to slow and it can be of some help.
 
What a keto diet?
Amie :evil:

Breaking Genetics said:
I dropped 15 lbs in 4 weeks. I took clen during weeks 1,2, and 4. It took benadryl during the 3rd week. This was in combination with a keto diet :). I only stopped because I was very happy with the results. I kept my strength and I think clen helped with that. The shakes were bad the first day I started. I couldn't take notes in class haha.
 
You know, looking back at my last time using clen (around that post higher on this page...) I really was a nervous wreck. But, some of that could have been that I was nowhere near contest ready and was pushing myself for a state level show. All in all the Clen didn't mess with me too much, but the anxiety sucks, especially if you have a lot on your plate!
 
michaeltt said:
i know ive said this before. But watch out for Clenbuterol , especially with liquids. If you arent careful you could end up in the hospital.

i was REALLY DUMB and took two ip superclen (without ketofin) .. I thought it was Nolvadex......i ended up spending the night on the heart floor.
I used clen (Oxyflux) and T3 (Cynomel) during the first 5 weeks of my cycle and I attribute my considerably smaller waist to it (I ended up loosing 42 lbs total body weight during my 12 cycle but notice that my pants were literally falling off after week 5 and my face was so gaunt I looked like ill). It was THEEE most unconfortable 5 weeks of my life however (I was up to 5 pills a day at .02mg per pill during that last week which I didn't finish). I couldn't stop sweating which I am not used to. I mean even staying in my room with the AC at 61 degrees Farenheit was a pain in the ass and at night I couldn't sleep. Not because I was jittery so much but because I just wouldn't stop sweating. It also had a negative effect on my workouts at the higher doses.
The above quote affirms the fact that I probably will not mess with Clen again but how about that FenPhen guys! Looks like they are going to bring it back with a vengance haha. Let's see what happens with this incarnation of that dangerous/miracle drug.
Can anyone elaborate on this horrible drug called DNP that used to be popular before. Everything I have read about it sound so dangerous.
 
lookinfit75 said:
Can anyone elaborate on this horrible drug called DNP that used to be popular before. Everything I have read about it sound so dangerous.

Straight forward facts on DNP. . . Be fucking CAREFUL!

The Good

Want to lose some weight? How about half a pound of fat a day, without dieting or doing cardio? What if the fat loss occurred primarily around your hips and waist? That's what dinitrophenol, or DNP, can do for you. It's for real and it works. But oh, I forgot - it can also kill you.

DNP has been used as a dye, pesticide, explosive, wood preservative and metabolic inhibitor; the latter is an agent that stops the hotly from producing adenosine triphosphate (ATP). The food you eat, your own body fat and muscle can all he broken down, absorbed and converted into ATP. ATP then provides energy for your muscles to perform work. When DNP stunts the body's ability to make ATP, the body compensates by converting more fat into ATP, and voila, you lose weight fast. The reason you lose fat so fast is because your metabolism is increased 1w up to 50% or more. That means if you normally burn 2,000 calories a day, you'll burn 3,001) calories while taking DNP, and most of the fat loss occurs around the hips and abdomen. We aren't even talking about restricting calories or exercising! DNP can also improve certain disorders like hypertension.

The Bad

So if it works so well, why isn't everyone using DNP? To answer that, let's backtrack to World War I. French monitions workers manufactured DNP for use as an explosive From 1916-1918, 36 deaths were attributed to DNP exposure in munitions factories; the workers were absorbing it through their skin and lungs, and levels of this chemical got so high in their bodies that they died. Some of them died from fevers as high as 115 degrees F. Now here's the really freaky stuff, When some of these people were examined, their body temperatures continued to increase although they were clean!! Their autopsies revealed that they had almost no body fat.

Well along come the 1930s and some U.S. physicians decide to give DNP a try for weight loss. Their rationale was that since DNP induces such massive fat loss, perhaps in a controlled environment it would he beneficial in treating obesity. It began to grow popular and by 1934 more than 20) wholesale drug firms rnarketed DNP. Its use spread to Canada, Great Britain. France, Sweden, Italy and Austria. Then reports started coming in of side effects edema (swelling), joint stiffness and pain, headaches, dizziness, vomiting, fever, skin lesions and skin rashes. Then, around 1933-l935, death reports started appearing in the Journal of the American Medical Association and other medical journals. The problems were occurring at normal dosages; some people didn't lose weight at those doses and, even worse, others died. DNP was prescribed at dosages of 3-5 mg per 2.2 pounds (1 kg) of bodyweight per day.' At doses up to 10mg per 2.2 pounds of bodyweight per day. metabolism could increase up to 50%. At doses above this (mostly for animal studies), metabolism could increase up to four times. Some people would experience extremely severe allergic reactions from an initial dose; skin eruptions would form and take some time to heal. Others died at the lowest dose prescribed. Toxic or lethal closes in humans vary significantly front person to person. Some can't handle even the lowest dosage, while others may not experience the metabolic effects even at twice the standard dose.

The Ugly

Used in studies to damage cells, including muscle cells, DNP causes alterations in cell structures that can be permanent. Because DNP prevents insulin molecules from attaching to muscle cells, insulin can't do its job if increasing the uptake of amino acids and glucose. If a bodybuilder were to take it to get ripped, for example, an anabolic hormone such as insulin wouldn't be able to stimulate muscle growth. DNP also inhibits production of thyroid hormones and prevents them from working properly in the body. The list goes on and on. As a final example, immune cells lose their ability to "eat" foreign cells and material, increasing susceptibility to disease and impairing most ATP-dependent functions.

DNP also causes hand tremors and profuse sweating, as well as more serious far-reaching effects. After going off DNP, individuals may or may not gain back more fat than before, depending on how screwed up their thyroid hormones are and what they're doing in terms of diet, and exercise. Ten years go by, and why is it getting so dark? The final surprise: Even after years of not using DNP, a number of people get cataracts. What's it going to be? Ripped, less muscle and dead, or a hit more aerobic work and alive? DNP isn't worth the risks. Fortunately, the compound is hard to come by and difficult to make at home. Don't be misled if your buddy tried it and says it worked great for him. He can still get cataracts in the future, and you can still die from using the same dosage.
 
whitemahon said:
Straight forward facts on dnp - dinitrophenol - . . . Be fucking CAREFUL!

The Good

Want to lose some weight? How about half a pound of fat a day, without dieting or doing cardio? What if the fat loss occurred primarily around your hips and waist? That's what dinitrophenol, or DNP, can do for you. It's for real and it works. But oh, I forgot - it can also kill you.

DNP has been used as a dye, pesticide, explosive, wood preservative and metabolic inhibitor; the latter is an agent that stops the hotly from producing adenosine triphosphate (ATP). The food you eat, your own body fat and muscle can all he broken down, absorbed and converted into ATP. ATP then provides energy for your muscles to perform work. When DNP stunts the body's ability to make ATP, the body compensates by converting more fat into ATP, and voila, you lose weight fast. The reason you lose fat so fast is because your metabolism is increased 1w up to 50% or more. That means if you normally burn 2,000 calories a day, you'll burn 3,001) calories while taking DNP, and most of the fat loss occurs around the hips and abdomen. We aren't even talking about restricting calories or exercising! DNP can also improve certain disorders like hypertension.

The Bad

So if it works so well, why isn't everyone using DNP? To answer that, let's backtrack to World War I. French monitions workers manufactured DNP for use as an explosive From 1916-1918, 36 deaths were attributed to DNP exposure in munitions factories; the workers were absorbing it through their skin and lungs, and levels of this chemical got so high in their bodies that they died. Some of them died from fevers as high as 115 degrees F. Now here's the really freaky stuff, When some of these people were examined, their body temperatures continued to increase although they were clean!! Their autopsies revealed that they had almost no body fat.

Well along come the 1930s and some U.S. physicians decide to give DNP a try for weight loss. Their rationale was that since DNP induces such massive fat loss, perhaps in a controlled environment it would he beneficial in treating obesity. It began to grow popular and by 1934 more than 20) wholesale drug firms rnarketed DNP. Its use spread to Canada, Great Britain. France, Sweden, Italy and Austria. Then reports started coming in of side effects edema (swelling), joint stiffness and pain, headaches, dizziness, vomiting, fever, skin lesions and skin rashes. Then, around 1933-l935, death reports started appearing in the Journal of the American Medical Association and other medical journals. The problems were occurring at normal dosages; some people didn't lose weight at those doses and, even worse, others died. DNP was prescribed at dosages of 3-5 mg per 2.2 pounds (1 kg) of bodyweight per day.' At doses up to 10mg per 2.2 pounds of bodyweight per day. metabolism could increase up to 50%. At doses above this (mostly for animal studies), metabolism could increase up to four times. Some people would experience extremely severe allergic reactions from an initial dose; skin eruptions would form and take some time to heal. Others died at the lowest dose prescribed. Toxic or lethal closes in humans vary significantly front person to person. Some can't handle even the lowest dosage, while others may not experience the metabolic effects even at twice the standard dose.

The Ugly

Used in studies to damage cells, including muscle cells, DNP causes alterations in cell structures that can be permanent. Because DNP prevents insulin molecules from attaching to muscle cells, insulin can't do its job if increasing the uptake of amino acids and glucose. If a bodybuilder were to take it to get ripped, for example, an anabolic hormone such as insulin wouldn't be able to stimulate muscle growth. DNP also inhibits production of thyroid hormones and prevents them from working properly in the body. The list goes on and on. As a final example, immune cells lose their ability to "eat" foreign cells and material, increasing susceptibility to disease and impairing most ATP-dependent functions.

DNP also causes hand tremors and profuse sweating, as well as more serious far-reaching effects. After going off DNP, individuals may or may not gain back more fat than before, depending on how screwed up their thyroid hormones are and what they're doing in terms of diet, and exercise. Ten years go by, and why is it getting so dark? The final surprise: Even after years of not using DNP, a number of people get cataracts. What's it going to be? Ripped, less muscle and dead, or a hit more aerobic work and alive? DNP isn't worth the risks. Fortunately, the compound is hard to come by and difficult to make at home. Don't be misled if your buddy tried it and says it worked great for him. He can still get cataracts in the future, and you can still die from using the same dosage.
Chit meng, that's one scary drug. Thanks for the scoop bro.
 
low dose dnp isn't that bad. ive done it a few times. only thing is your going to feel really uncomfortable for like 2 weeks and the fat loss isn't that great.
 
The leanest I ever became was from Ephedrine.

Clen with the head aches and dizzy spells was not worth it IMO, I even used Cytomel with it and it did nothing. I know my diet well and what I have to do and I had no results from it.
I kept my clen below 80mcg at the most and 75 mcg of cytomel at the most for 2 months. near the end I started getting pins in nails all the time and said enough with this.

Every summer I use eq/winny and lately eq/primo with some Ephedrine and it works everytime and crazy energy from ephedrine too.
You do need a clean diet for clen to work and never go over board or you can have some major issues.

carbs around 200, cardio every morning, ephedrine no later than 4 or you wont be sleeping. My recipe for being cut.
 
The leanest I ever became was from Ephedrine.

Clen with the head aches and dizzy spells was not worth it IMO, I even used Cytomel with it and it did nothing. I know my diet well and what I have to do and I had no results from it.
I kept my clen below 80mcg at the most and 75 mcg of cytomel at the most for 2 months. near the end I started getting pins in nails all the time and said enough with this.

Every summer I use eq/winny and lately eq/primo with some Ephedrine and it works everytime and crazy energy from ephedrine too.
You do need a clean diet for clen to work and never go over board or you can have some major issues.

carbs around 200, cardio every morning, ephedrine no later than 4 or you wont be sleeping. My recipe for being cut.

Sounds like your BP was in the dangerous zone.
 
DNP DIscussions are bannable ... so be careful when recommending it...

I did Clen / T3 stack a while back, I'd get the shakes for sure ... and sweating was crazy.. Once I wanted to see how high I can get my heart beat... I got to 195 on the treadmill ...
After that day I Stopped doing HIIT....
For me I didn't notice much body fat drop... I just got bigger because I was talking Pheraphlex ... which was just supposed to stop me from loosing muscle from the T3...
But of course I love gaining much more than loosing so my subconscious gave me what I wanted... lol

I ran Clen for 3 weeks on B/C I didn't have enough for 2 on 2 off, with Benadryl at 2nd week don't know if it worked... Went up to 160MCG Clen and 100mg T3... I DO NOT RECOMMEND A BEGINNER TO GO THAT HIGH ... you have to assess your tolerance , for me drugs are very welcomed by my body so my side's are always low... =)
 
Notice how nobody post there results here nor any where on the world Internet. But yet everybody brags how awsome it is..
Well let me be the first EVER in the world to say my results!
- I went from 17.6% BF to 10% in one cycle of 3weeks on/off.
OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH MY GOD OH MY GOD! I was the fist in the world to admit it!!! Honestly that wasn't that hard idk ppl are scared. But plz let me go down in history for this. Thank you! Thank you!
 
Notice how nobody post there results here nor any where on the world Internet. But yet everybody brags how awsome it is..
Well let me be the first EVER in the world to say my results!
- I went from 17.6% BF to 10% in one cycle of 3weeks on/off.
OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH MY GOD OH MY GOD! I was the fist in the world to admit it!!! Honestly that wasn't that hard idk ppl are scared. But plz let me go down in history for this. Thank you! Thank you!

How long did you run te clen for? :)
 
3weeks on & 3weeks off then 3weeks on again. So 6 weeks total.
Hey eclen guy did u get my pm? You guys didn't send me my free gift. I spent over $180 and no free gift like I asked for, I even specified it in the comment box. What's up with that man, it was my first order with you guys too. I was planning on ordering more in the future if all went well, but I'm not so sure now man..
 
I have clen but not sure if I need T3. I want to know exactly how you achieved those results?? Please Help me
 
Celn... it all depends on how your body responds. I really think as a few said it is best at lower bf% rather than high. It is great for the stubborn final %'s. Personally I think an ECA stack is better for someone who has higher BF% because you can still do HIIT on that and the cardio is better. Cardio on clen for me is tough. and I am used to high heart rate being runner. Some people it responds better too but I get cramps like crazy and I drink a lot of water and used Taurine and Potassium. Like I sid though each person responds differently. A friend of mine does high dose of Keto and swears by it but I do Benadyrl and that only keeps my receptors open for maybe 2 weeks even with that.
 
I recently ordered clenbuterol but didn’t order T3. After doing some research I see that alot of ppl take them together. I weigh 190 at 5′7″, I want to lose about 50lbs. I do cardio 45min 6 days a week, abs 6 days a week alternating between upper lower and sides, arms, legs, chest, back and shoulders all once a week. I drink a protein shake after exercise and my diet is very strict, low carb and low fat. I haven’t saw alot of results in the last month so I’m trying clen. Should I take it with cytomel(T3) or not? Please help with any advise on the situation. :worried:
 
I recently ordered clenbuterol but didn’t order T3. After doing some research I see that alot of ppl take them together. I weigh 190 at 5′7″, I want to lose about 50lbs. I do cardio 45min 6 days a week, abs 6 days a week alternating between upper lower and sides, arms, legs, chest, back and shoulders all once a week. I drink a protein shake after exercise and my diet is very strict, low carb and low fat. I haven’t saw alot of results in the last month so I’m trying clen. Should I take it with cytomel(T3) or not? Please help with any advise on the situation. :worried:

I would wait for any MAJOR drugs until you cut that total in half at least. If you want an AMAZING safer combo to really get you kick started though, get the LIPOSHRED stack from OMEGA. Lipoflame/Lipostim combo will get you on the right track safer than Clen/combo at your current stats. Wanting to lose 50lbs is a HUGE deal coming down to diet and training. Id wait for the "harder" drugs if you are dead set on them and run something like LIPOSHRED stack for now. Trust me you dont wanna stress your body out too much at higher bf%'s.

-Legacy
 
I have done clen for a week now (started with 20 mcg, 80 mcg from past 3 days). I have lost 4 lbs. But i have lost lot of power. cant train so heavy, cant go beyond 10 reps at times.bad cramps during squats,quads are exhausted ,intensity low.. what is the reason???
taking taurine, lot of water 1.5 gallons, bananas too.
170 lbs 5 7", 18 % BF
 
well i've just started clen myself just a few day's ago not many side effect's i don't feel for me

i'm shaking like a mofo which is annoyingly amusing but that's just me and i've got cramp in one foot and that's it

give's you a massive buzz tho i'm loving it so far :P
 
The problem with fat burners like clenbuterol, T3, ephedrine, etc. is that they don't differentiate between muscle or fat. They simply raise metabolism. You will loose a combination of muscle and fat when using them. Not only that, their stimulant nature puts a lot of stress on the adrenal cortex and raises cortisol levels.

I really like the stimulant free alternative of cardarine gw + n2slin. You will get all the same fat loss benefits, with none of the side effects.
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Need2Slin-p50.html
http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/
Cardarine is drug that binds to the PPAR receptor and is non-hormonal. Cardarine increases the expression of genes involved in the expenditure of energy, stimulates glucose uptake in skeletal muscle tissue and burns fat by stimulating fatty acid oxidation.
N2slin is a non-stimulant fat burner and powerful nutrient partitioner. It increases insulin sensitivity of muscle cells and helps partition the food you eat into muscle cells and away from fat cells.
Take 20mg of cardarine gw per day. 10mg AM 10mg PM
Take 2 tablets N2slin 30 minutes before each meal you eat that contains a significant amount of carbohydrates.

Both are stimulant free and non-hormonal. You need to be careful with all these stimulant based fat burners. Overdoing it on the stimulants will greatly increase cortisol levels and lead to adrenal fatigue. Counterproductive to any fat loss or muscle building goals.
 
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