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chest just wont grow

six-one-nine

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ive lifted on and off through high school but nothing really serious, nothing to make me build and real good muscle. about 8 months ago ive been lifting pretty hard, and i just cant get my chest to grow. ive asked people befor and they always say the same thing " get your arms stronger' , but my arms are pretty good now and still no gain. about a month ago a realized that i had a arch in my back with i lifted so i stoped that, but still nothing.

are work out my chest about 2-3 times a week doing regular bench, the peck deck, and the machines. when i lift i dont really feel a burn in my chest at all. i got some muscle there but not much. any thoughts? if i got on deca would that help me out?
 
Cut it down for one thing. Unless you have good genes, which it doesn't sound like, cut it down to once a week. That way they have more time to relax and get big....

Also, try doing some dumbells. They will allow you to target a little more...
 
Just kill it when you do it till its sore and then give it proper rest till it feels good again and see how you respond.Make sure you are putting in 100% intensity when your hitting the last rep on every set you should be dead and need the in between set rest.
 
squeeze your pecs when your doing it and ull get to feeling a burn real fast.. also chest 1x a week is enough.. ure muscles get bigger WHILE they rest not during a work out!! i believe you can actually deteriorate your muscle by over exerting it!
 
nutsnack said:
i believe you can actually deteriorate your muscle by over exerting it!
yeah thats what i think i did, cuzz i got a lil muscle going on, and all of a sudden like 2 weeks later it kinda shrunk a lil bit, thanks for all the tips, so once a week huh? how long should i spend on my chest, i usally spend like 30-45 minutes on it, but im guessing that is to much
 
six-one-nine said:
ive lifted on and off through high school but nothing really serious, nothing to make me build and real good muscle. about 8 months ago ive been lifting pretty hard, and i just cant get my chest to grow. ive asked people befor and they always say the same thing " get your arms stronger' , but my arms are pretty good now and still no gain. about a month ago a realized that i had a arch in my back with i lifted so i stoped that, but still nothing.

are work out my chest about 2-3 times a week doing regular bench, the peck deck, and the machines. when i lift i dont really feel a burn in my chest at all. i got some muscle there but not much. any thoughts? if i got on deca would that help me out?

ok 1st of all are your saying you do not arch your back when you do bench?
you need to arch this is important. with out the arch you are using mostly shoulders.. your but and traps should be the only thing touching the bench.
so yes arch .. you have too.. also.. try different exercises to see with one y ou feel mostly in your chest.
do you get a pump in your chest?
do you lift hard and only feel it in your shoulders??
pick the exersice that you can feel the most. probably decline.
and if so.. do flies and every there there for a while.. and flex flex flex the muscle as hard as you can. back arched.
 
1) The "burn" or pump or whatever has nothing to do with effectively stimulating growth or adaptation

2) Get off the machines

3) Volume, Intensity, and Frequency are all tied together in an effective training program. It's impossible to say that 1x per week is better than 3x per week without taking all of these factors as well as the conditioning level of the lifter into account. This is a good explanation on why I say this: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4776914&postcount=386 BTW - intensity is an objective quantifiable measure as defined by the % of a given single rep maximum in an exercise. It is not a subjective qualitative preceived effort or some such no matter how much the HIT people would like to steal a word the commonly prevades all serious weightlifting literature.

4) Sure "deca" will work. It's the most common cop out in BBing. Take a shitty training stimulus that is insufficient and magnify it several times until you can get gains out of it. Then cycle on and off roids accruing gains from the shitty workout and hopping back on before they disappear because the stimulus is too shitty to hold the majority of them, covering up the fact that your program couldn't grow a pubescent teen on an eating binge. IMO, probably better to bite the bullet and spend a bit of time learning how to train first. That way, if you use drugs you can gain the maximum amount from a given dosage rather than inefficiently racheting the dosage to compensate.

So a few questions:
-Do you train the squat and deadlift as well as the bench?
-Have you consistently increased your capacities in all of these lifts over time?
-Do you eat enough to support new tissue growth?

My recommendation is to go to the powerlifting forum and read the sticky posts on benching, squatting and deadlifting. Learn how to do the exercises correctly. If you want to add some muscle to your chest, you will be better served by living in the power rack for a while learning to squat and pull than using the greatest bench program known to man. The body is best stimulated and trained as a system - this is why it is all the noodlearms doing tons of bicept work that have tiny arms, you never see them squatting or pulling and those guys who spend their time in the rack have large arms with very little direct training emphasis. And this does not mean isolating all the muscles, we are talking compound lifts that stress the entire system to force adaptation. Once you've trained up and learned how to do them correctly, instead of using all the bullshit machine and splits, use a program that has been putting muscle and strength on thousands of people for years and years. Go to this thread: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375215 and scroll down to the Novice Lifter Version. Direct link is here: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4497774&postcount=15
This is also a worthwhile interview to read: http://www.readthecore.com/200503/reynolds-glenn-pendlay.htm
In there he mentions his friend Mark Ripptoe consistently adds 30-40lbs to new lifters in 6 months - this is a template of the squat program they run: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4658227&postcount=235
 
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