Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Guys, I'm going to quit lifting all together for like 2 months and just do cardio 3 times a week. I want to get rid of this excess fat on my stomach and chest, then begin lifting again. My question is, should I continue to follow my diet I'm on now and take a whey shake after running each time?? And also, should I run on a empty stomach or eat first?
Cardio Question
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Extra_Strong
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Well your mind may be set. but you should keep lifting because keeping muscle on your body takes energy. and increases your matabilism. and dieting you will lose some muscle. what diet are you on now??
cardio and lifting will get you the best results.. then start adding back in the calories to add mass..
cardio and lifting will get you the best results.. then start adding back in the calories to add mass..
chewyxrage
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Shobe said:
I would just do cardio every day except legs either in the morning on an empty stomach or right after you finish lifting.
gjohnson5
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Shobe said:
Alot of people (me included) don't think that cardio after lifting is a good idea since your running on a empty tank thus it becomes counter productive.
I don't see your question as being rediculious. If you are putting priority on cardio so much so that muscle is a non issue , then do cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach
Extra_Strong
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Shobe said:
if you are must trying to build muscle maybe.
but you are trying to get cut. So it should be not prob. just be sure to do your lifting 1st and cardio 2nd.
JKurz1
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Listen....if you want to get shreedded, post your diet. This game is 90% diet.....you can't ditch the iron......ditch cardio before you ditch iron....muscle burns cals at rest, cardio does, but only for a brief period...the more muscle, the higher the metabolism....are u following me? But, I'll bet 500-1, that you diet needs severe repairs....
gjohnson5
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JKurz1 said:
Well I don't know. Basically there are people like pintoca's brother and me when they were younger who could eat anything and still remain at low bodyfat. Not to mention low bodyfat due to playeing 3 sports and had anywhere between and 2 and 6 track events. Cadio can make up for a bad diet. I am speaking from experience.
But jkurz1 knows about diet, aside from practicing it.
CrayonOfDoom2
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Rainbows said:
Says the guy with the rainbow for a name.
gjohnson5
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JKurz1 said:Make fun of his name all you want, he's 100% on the money.
It depends on goals. As I was saying in another thread, How much do you think Allan Iverson squats. I'll tell you. The answer is next to nothing. But how many of you can run a 4 minute mile? He doesn't even like to lift weights. He takes abuse going to the rack and still scores, and 1...
You 2 are ignoring goals. So saying that giving up weights is stupid is a prejudgement at least
CrayonOfDoom2
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JKurz1 said:Make fun of his name all you want, he's 100% on the money.
I could care less, he's the rainbow guy....
CrayonOfDoom2
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gjohnson5 said:
couldn't have put it better myself.
chewyxrage
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Well if we are talking about asthetics here, and from the original poster, I'm pretty sure that's what he is talking about.....I would keep weights above cardio because I feel it has the most dramatic effect on appearence....depends on what look you want...personally I'm going for the "jacked-but-still-functionally-athletic" look as opposed to the "runner physique"
Muscles are built with resistance training, nada else to do for it - bodyfat levels can be manipulated with diet or cadio, or both so there is more options to work with. This is why I say I would drop cardio before weights
Muscles are built with resistance training, nada else to do for it - bodyfat levels can be manipulated with diet or cadio, or both so there is more options to work with. This is why I say I would drop cardio before weights
gjohnson5
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ChewYxRage said:
Chewy , no disrespect , but your gallery suggests that you've never built any muscle. Therefore you're words have a bias attached to them. When you get some age , metabolism slows, dependants maybe, then let's see what you think. You're just too young to make those comments.
chewyxrage
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gjohnson5 said:
You should see my before pics if you think I haven't built any muscle.
What exactly was the point of your post? I merely posted my opinion on the matter. If you disagree with that, fine, don't tell me I haven't built any muscle. I think I've done a damn good job in less than 2 years starting from where I did.
Of course my words have bias attached to them, I'm speaking from my own experience. You have no better idea what will work for this guy than I do.
gjohnson5
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ChewYxRage said:You should see my before pics if you think I haven't built any muscle.
What exactly was the point of your post? I merely posted my opinion on the matter. If you disagree with that, fine, don't tell me I haven't built any muscle. I think I've done a damn good job in less than 2 years starting from where I did.
Of course my words have bias attached to them, I'm speaking from my own experience. You have no better idea what will work for this guy than I do.
gjohnson5 said:
Would you be willing to show those pics or put them in your gallery? Then I woun't be making off base statements..?
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cardio and lifint help stimulate weight loss quicker because they are too different types on workouts. Anaerobic (weights) Aerobic (jogging/walking). There fore you burn off weight better IMO. There is no such thing as spot reduction, you need to think about long term goals, 2 months of dieting in excess with running, check out oher diets to see what we all have corrected, try reading more before posting, but let me know how it pans out...
***running on empty stomach does nothing but work abs more, there is no proven research showing the differences in cardio times of day***
***running on empty stomach does nothing but work abs more, there is no proven research showing the differences in cardio times of day***
gjohnson5
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Ripped2Shredds
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still no scientific research? so what i aguy was fat and now skinny, any time u are more active and burning more calories then you take in you loose weight correct?
How is weight loss, expelling more then intake...right? So there fore does it matter when you do cardio? Hmm
bottom line kid, diet is best way to loose weight, enough said
How is weight loss, expelling more then intake...right? So there fore does it matter when you do cardio? Hmm
bottom line kid, diet is best way to loose weight, enough said
gjohnson5
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Ripped2Shredds said:
Reread it again. There is a study at the bottom of of the web page.
Tom Venuto is not any guy. You need to do research on who the person is writing the article
I had this same argument with another person who thought they were right when infact they were wrong. When stomach is empty there are no calories to burn. Metabolic process will either convert fats to sugar by your liver , or will break down muscle into amino acids and then convert those to sugar. Then you have calories to burn...
Basically all your assertions are incorrect. Just like the other guy
Do research , kid...
Ripped2Shredds
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muscle will be broken down before fats, better source of energy correct?
gjohnson5
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Ripped2Shredds said:
I think that depends on
1. how much fat a person has in comparison to how much muscle
2. the genetic makeup of the person
3. body type (ectomorph , endomorph , mesomorph)
4. the persons metabolic rate (BMR ,RMR)
You can't say one is broken down before the other statically ... makes no sense
hey jkurlz why such the hostility against us cardio bunnies? =). I do spinning class 5xs a week and have noticed tremendous differences even when my diet wasn't that great. But I do have to say.....when I see those women on the elliptical machine for like two hours and aren't sweating I kind of feel bad. They kind of look like a hamster on a wheel thinking that one of these days they are actually going to get somewhere.
I think doing a spinning class does wonders for shedding body fat, but do it on an empty stomach, keep a healthy diet, and lifting weights to keep your strength and muscle mass is ideal.
But what do I know I am just a stupid cardio bunny....right jkurlz =)
I think doing a spinning class does wonders for shedding body fat, but do it on an empty stomach, keep a healthy diet, and lifting weights to keep your strength and muscle mass is ideal.
But what do I know I am just a stupid cardio bunny....right jkurlz =)
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