Can gains still be made or should I give up???????

[Mr N]

An old disc injury has just flared up again causing great weakness on the left side of my body(just when I thought it had gone!!!!)

Thing is, im on the 3rd week of my cycle (300 eq 1-12, 250 sus 1-12, 200primo 6-12). I cannot press heavy free weights on my left side but can still work my muscle by using a light weight, lots of sets using 12 reps.

will I still be able to make gains although im using 60% of my usual weight on my left side?? There is no pain with weights this light.

Anybody gained whilst on gear with an injury?

 

[MkZk]

I've never used gear so I cannot answer you question. However, I suggest u take a complete layoff from training and gear, of course. Take that time, be it one, two or even six months off and get yourself healed. You need a doc. Expore massage and alternative theraphy.

After you are healed, get back in decent shape then use gear again to get in the best shape of your life.

Good luck.

 

[STORM SHADOW]

This is what I would do bro.......I used to be a BB trainer. Now don't get me wrong.....I'm not a therapist. They may even agree with me though the Physical Therapists & I have had heated discussions on how to work out. We finally agreed at my request that I won't deal with therapy......don't you deal with strength/mass workouts.

You say that the heavy weights hurt you but you are on a cycle.......you can't stop your cycle cold.....that is destructive to your system. So......you must either taper off & take your hcg then clomid or stay on & finish what you started.

This is not a strength workout.....it's for mass only. Many awesome competitors use it.

This is with dumbbells for the chest:

Get the weight that you can do flies with in a PERFECT FORM REP.........have those in front of you.....get heavy dumbells that you can do 12 times......this is not your max at 12.....because you are going to do flies first.

Now after you have warmed up properly.......go do 6 sets of this:
Do your flies PERFECTLY to exhaustion.......this is a pre-exhaustion move.....then drop them real fast & do your dumbell presses with the heavy ones......on the last rep.....bring it down slooooooooow & concentrate on the eccentric part of the rep here.......then don't stop there.....since you can't lift it back up....bounce it up & down at the bottom a few times.......OMG that will hurt. Then don't waste your effort......just let go of them from the sides....don't let them down easy.......just drop the mother fuckers......you don't want to further injure yourself.......
Drop ten-15 pounds for the next presses......go through the same pre-exhaust then press.......do that a total of 6 sets......chest is done......you should have more blood in your chest than you can stand.

One fly & one press movement is ONE SET.

Back.....do regular lap pull downs.....no bent over rows with barbell.

Legs......stick with the machines that don't push down on your back from your shoulders.


Legs: Do pre-exhaust on leg extension in PERFECT FORM.......no boucing or cheating or swinging.....up fast...down slow.....exhaust them.....then do inverted leg press right after you get off of that......6 sets.......hehehehe I dare ya.

One leg extension & one inverted leg press movement is ONE SET.

These are mass routines.....they work.

If you tilt to mesomorph.....do it faster....less rest between sets.....if you are ecto like me......you can build mass just the same.......take 3 min rest between each of these....less if fat type. 5 minutes or more, 10 maybe between other stuff you may do. During your rest........REST.....don't pace around getting psyched out....just sit there & do nothing....rest....look at everybody like you are nuts or something.....breath deep...

Reminds me of a story....biggest guy I ever met at 5'4" he was 230lbs.....massive.....he would do his set.....then just sit down for awhile....looking around....someguy that was about 6' tall 160lbs. asked him....right in front of me.....it was so funny......"is that all you do is just sit there?" My buddy's reply that is 5'4" 230lbs looking at this 6' 160lbs guy......."well it works....what are you doing for size pencil neck?"
muahahahahahahahaha I rolled........ok.....you had to be there.....sorry.


Good luck......oh.....& do what others said about messages & therapy.....it works.

 

[Dutch windmill]

Allright that's some good help from a bro

 

[Mr N]

storm shadow, that is one hell of a helpful post and Ill be using that info on wedensday in the gym. Im sure there are much more people who could benefit from this. One final thing, when using dumbells - does it matter if on my strong side i am dropping to much lighter dumbells than usual. I take it the most important thing here is getting a good feel and pump into the muscle?

Cheers mate.

 

[John Woe]

If you can still train with lighter weights that is great. Youcan still grow with sets of 12 and 15. The change could do you well also. The gear should help your recovery time as well.

 

[STORM SHADOW]

That's a no go bro. Both dumbells should be the same weight or your torso will twist. Oh......I almost forgot.....put all the stress into your chest & take your back OUT of the chest exercise.

Cross your legs & put them up into the air bent at 90 degs..........this maximizes the chest exercise.........having feet on ground is for powerlifters IMHO.