Big Rick Rock
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Djimbe said:Why , because of the NAMES ?
There is more difference in the Movement anbd Fighting styles of Monkey and Mantis than there is between Boxing and Muay Thai - and you WOULD call THAT Cross Training , wouldnt you ? Hell , theres more difference between the two systems than there is between Boxing and CAPOEIRA ! You DO realise that "China" is IMMENSE , and that all systems coming from there arent even particularly SIMILAR , much less the same , right ?
No , appearantly you didnt .
No , not "Insired by" A TOTAL AND BLATANT WORD-FOR-WORD RIPOFF ! Im talking like on the level of getting caught copying out of the Encyclopedia for a Report on the Crimean war . The guy was a C- student in Philosophy . He just had enough Retention to be able to take a few Ripped-Off quotes with him to Interviews . And he didnt just Rip off The Chinese , some of his stuff is from Japanese Sources , as well , Tatsuan Soho
Against WHOM ???
WHEN ?
WHERE ?
the man NEVER EVER EVER Fought anyone !
And again , NONE of his Students EVER Produced ANYONE of ANY Merit using his ACTUAL METHODS .
Firstly "SBG" Didnt figure out anything earlier than anyone . Back in the early 90s Thornton was sporting his Spikey Billy Idol Hairdo , and High-Kicking on the cover of the Mags just like EVERYONE ELSE at the time . THEN he started with the Machados at about the ame time as the Gracies started in , and they had been doing a LOAD of VT stuff already , the UFC just hadnt actually HAPPENED yet . Great , Ill give the guy Points for being Super Trendy .
Kali hasnt been "Proven" as Squat . Its nowhere NEAR "The Best Weapons System , heck its not even the besat PERSONAL Weapons system . Firearms are . And before yo uget Ticky-Tacky Ive NEVER been beaten in a StickFight by any Kali or Escrima Practitioner , and I only trained in my "Poor" Chinese MAs/Weapons , though I DO have Dual Weapons training . But Sriously , I could just be Talented at it , I AM a VERY Athletic Cat naturally , so Im just going to say that its SO VERY Speculative until ppl start doing DeathMatches with Blades again . I would like to point out that Japanese , Chinese and European Swordsmanship is and always was FAR better/more widely used and more "Proven" historically . Heck , id take a couple of Roman Legions over the entirety of the Philipines !
Oh , and by the by Ill go back to this point again - The Militich camp is Combining the above systems in a GOOD way .
So far Thornton & co have produced no MMA Champions with his Methods , despite having umpteen schools in how many countries to draw from as far as Gene Pool ? HEs ony had ONE guy even make a decent showing out of ALL THOSE SCHOOLS , and I HAVE to call "Law Of Averages" on THAT one !
Had you cited Militich , I would have had to Agree with you - thats a school that CONTINUALLY PRODUCES CHAMPIONS .
SBGI produces nothing more than Revenue for its instructors , and a lot of ppl that THINK they can fight .
Randy Couture started with SBGi. Here is a quote:
"The training at the Straight Blast Gym has been instrumental in my preparation for reality fighting in the UFC. Matt's expertise in stand-up, and ground fighting techniques has helped me win the Ultimate Fighting Championships. There is no rest for the best!" - Randy Couture (UFC 13, 14, & 16 champion)
Funny that you say SBGi has never produced a champion... Thats the same thing I say about every Chinese Martial Art ever practiced. They have never produced a champion in any MMA league I'm aware of.
Hey... Wasn't Matt Thorton the one who stood infront of your face and told you that CMAs have contributed "NOTHING" to the world of MMA or somethign like that? I think I remember you saying something to that effect... I could be wrong.
-BRR