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BROS HELP ME OUT... worried.

Cata1yst said:
Thanks bro.... what what you do NOW, eventhough I was only 2.5 weeks on I'm sure I still need some sort of PCT, but my cholesterol is just so dangerously low right now...
Just eat very, very clean. Don't eat crap like fast food, fried foods, etc. Yes, I would stop your cycle now, and just give it some time. Your levels will come back up gradually. It's not permanent. Don't freak out or anything, just stay calm and monitor the situation.
 
Not usre if I agree with the companys not telling you about pct. Biotest for example sold mag10. They also sold a performance pack with mag10, M and on other product for post cycle. They also gave good directions on how to take all three compounds. Mag10 was the closest thing to steroids that I have ever taken. Just put a lot of dense fat while taking it. Just my 2 cents

boogs


fugetaboutit said:
many pro-hormones (actually i would say most) are worse than actual aas in terms of toxicity and sides . M1T for example. They also don't give you half the gains that you would get from a real cycle. They are twice as expensive and they're not regulated in any way, shape, or form. Think about this, every maker of pro-hormones (when they were still legal) never told you on the bottle and the directions for use that you would need to do PCT afterwards to get your natural test levels back or any risks that could be associated with their use. So while they knew that you would need post cycle therapy (probably the most important aspect of a cycle) they never told you so and on top of that, they claimed that their product is "completely safe and free of side effects." So, doing a cycle of any certain compound that has been in existence for some time and has been researched and we KNOW the side effects and how it interacts with the human body is going to be far more safer than using something that is not regulated, new, and no documented research exists on it. If I was you I would never touch pro-hormones again and when you're a little older and have done the exhaustive reaserch on it, then you'll be able to reconsider and make a relatively sound decision.
 
cboogsrun said:
Not usre if I agree with the companys not telling you about pct. Biotest for example sold mag10. They also sold a performance pack with mag10, M and on other product for post cycle. They also gave good directions on how to take all three compounds. Mag10 was the closest thing to steroids that I have ever taken. Just put a lot of dense fat while taking it. Just my 2 cents

boogs
yeah some companies may indicated that but I was just speaking generally of most companies out there.
 
Cata1yst said:
Well I have 6-oxo, but I heard otc anti-estrogens lower HDL even more. I just don't know about online purchasing...... I'm so freaked out about that shit.


Another option is to just Quit cold turkey! Your levels will gradually come back up but don't expect to keep any weight you gained!

RADAR
 
RADAR said:
Another option is to just Quit cold turkey! Your levels will gradually come back up but don't expect to keep any weight you gained!

RADAR

My health is more important than keeping muscle... fuck it. I'm actually starting to have a little chest pain, damn
 
Cata1yst said:
My health is more important than keeping muscle... fuck it. I'm actually starting to have a little chest pain, damn




Dude! Just calm down!
Its no biggie,you're gonna make yourself sick.....so ease back & clear your mind & take some deep breaths!

RADAR




BTW! I bet my bloodwork is probably more messed up than yours I've been running everything under the sun since April!
RADAR[/QUOTE]
 
Cata1yst said:
This has gotta be a joke.......

My family doctor just calls me (he kind of knows I started taking andro) and is all livid on the phone and tells me to stop whatever I'm taking right now, apparently they tested my blood twice and my HDL was under 10!!! This doesn't make any sense because my total cholesterol is 160 and triglycerides are 67, which is pretty damn good.

Either the andro was interfering with the blood test or it actually lowered it by that much. I've only been on it for two weeks so I can't imagine it being that low... dosages were very high though.

For comparision, lets just say my HDL was 40 back in 2003 when I was out-of-shape and probably 10-15lbs overweight. I've never really freaked out about anything before but this is coming close.... if I stop this andro cold-turkey I'm afraid of estrogen sides.....

I dont have a source for nolvadex and this is my second day of not taking it or anything at all. My doc said to stop everything even fucking protein. Help a bro out I don't wanna lose the 5lbs of lean mass I gained and I don't want to crash... but I don't want my cholesterol messed up for the rest of my life...

What should I do bros? (Yes I know pro-hormones are stupid now, lesson learned)

Couple of things bro:

1. You had blood work done which is a great thing.

2. An HDL of 10 is horrible. The good news is it will improve if you stop the andro. East a clean diet and exercise and your HDL should go back to baseline in 1-3 months. I have heard of bro's having HDLs of 10-15. I have gone as low as ~28 and I bounced back to an HDL of ~56 after two months of cessation.

3. You say you have been on Andro for 2 weeks but I don't know you’re past history so it is tough to know what other contributing factors you have. Have you done Andro in the past? Genetics? Over-weight? Also, your HDL was 40 in 2003. That was 2 years ago! Have a complete physical every year if you can afford it.

In time you should be fine.

Good luck!
 
JP@Ironology said:
Couple of things bro:

1. You had blood work done which is a great thing.

2. An HDL of 10 is horrible. The good news is it will improve if you stop the andro. East a clean diet and exercise and your HDL should go back to baseline in 1-3 months. I have heard of bro's having HDLs of 10-15. I have gone as low as ~28 and I bounced back to an HDL of ~56 after two months of cessation.

3. You say you have been on Andro for 2 weeks but I don't know you’re past history so it is tough to know what other contributing factors you have. Have you done Andro in the past? Genetics? Over-weight? Also, your HDL was 40 in 2003. That was 2 years ago! Have a complete physical every year if you can afford it.

In time you should be fine.

Good luck!




If the andro is the culpert and caused this dramatic rapid drop than stopping it should bring levels back up relatively quick since its only been 2 weeks! No damage done.
RADAR
 
JP@Ironology said:
Couple of things bro:
3. You say you have been on Andro for 2 weeks but I don't know you’re past history so it is tough to know what other contributing factors you have. Have you done Andro in the past? Genetics? Over-weight? Also, your HDL was 40 in 2003. That was 2 years ago! Have a complete physical every year if you can afford it.

Thanks dude.

Never took any andro/gear before. Good genetics, not overweight (6'2" 190lbs 12%bf), exercise daily, and my cholesterol right now is 160 and triglycerides 60 something... which is very good.

Thats why I was so shocked.
 
RADAR said:
If the andro is the culpert and caused this dramatic rapid drop than stopping it should bring levels back up relatively quick since its only been 2 weeks! No damage done.
RADAR

Bummed b/c I'm just thinking because of my bodies response to this I will never be able to do a real cycle... when I'm older of course.
 
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