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ballslee
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like ive done on 8 million other threads.....this is the stupidest shit ive ever seen every single time i wanna post something everyone repeats the damn question. And then no one believes me when i respond.
my rat is 6'4 300...around 15% BF, abs showing, been training for 12 years, used to play football, not gonna post a pic, this will be my 10th cycle. last cycle was 1G test E, 600mg Deca, 600mgEQ, win orals, and anavar orals at different times.
rutdipper
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Don't disrespect bro!...if your going to be posting about a cycle you need to post stats, just find a better way to incorporate them in your post.
& with stats like that...if there true....why wouldn't you want to post a pic....just block your face out.
at 300 pounds i would definately bump the primo higher.
the masteron can be swapped out if necessary to save on pinnings.. i would do primo 700mg a week.. you are 300 pounds so 400mg a week seems too low a dose with something like primo that has a high molecular weight and has to be pinned at higher doses
for pct run the hcg longer by stretching it out.. 500ED is not necessary. do 1000iu's every 3-4 days instead
the masteron can be swapped out if necessary to save on pinnings.. i would do primo 700mg a week.. you are 300 pounds so 400mg a week seems too low a dose with something like primo that has a high molecular weight and has to be pinned at higher doses
for pct run the hcg longer by stretching it out.. 500ED is not necessary. do 1000iu's every 3-4 days instead
a few things i would change...
your body fat is too high for masteron... it needs to come down more so either get it down or drop it...
you can run primo higher like steve recommended...
your hcg is way too high... 1000 ius a week is all you need...
i would run winstrol 6 weeks as opposed to 4...
your body fat is too high for masteron... it needs to come down more so either get it down or drop it...
you can run primo higher like steve recommended...
your hcg is way too high... 1000 ius a week is all you need...
i would run winstrol 6 weeks as opposed to 4...
If he is going to drop the mastron shouldn't he add an AI like Aromasin?
ballslee
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Thank you for the help.
I do have some forma stanzol on hand so I could run that....been wanting to check it out on cycle. But also could grab some Adex
Would 600mg primo suffice? I could do 700 pinning wise but money wise not so sure.
I was thinking mast here for androgenic purposes....I have run it before, and I know about the BF % but my thought here was to help up regulate test and not as bad on my knees as winny. Because I'm substantially dropping my usual test dosage on this cycle.....
If I drop the mast, should I run Var as a kicker over Tbol? Or I could switch the winny to the start
Forgot to mention HgH as well here
I can gain and lose weight fairly easily and can easily get down to 275 or up to 315 because my diet is pretty good, but obviously here I am trying to cut.
As far as pics go, I am very hesitant to post for personal reasons
I do have some forma stanzol on hand so I could run that....been wanting to check it out on cycle. But also could grab some Adex
Would 600mg primo suffice? I could do 700 pinning wise but money wise not so sure.
I was thinking mast here for androgenic purposes....I have run it before, and I know about the BF % but my thought here was to help up regulate test and not as bad on my knees as winny. Because I'm substantially dropping my usual test dosage on this cycle.....
If I drop the mast, should I run Var as a kicker over Tbol? Or I could switch the winny to the start
Forgot to mention HgH as well here
I can gain and lose weight fairly easily and can easily get down to 275 or up to 315 because my diet is pretty good, but obviously here I am trying to cut.
As far as pics go, I am very hesitant to post for personal reasons
ballslee
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Also on Hcg.....I have run the E3D protocol before, but I was referring strictly to the two weeks before PCT and running 500 ED for 10 days.
I have experimented with other ways and this way I felt the best going into PCT.....the E3D routine really messes with me for some reason libido wise (day of shot libido super low, next day super high, next day low) and this is with several diff brands and cycles....just listened to my body and that is a protocol I have researched thoroughly
I have experimented with other ways and this way I felt the best going into PCT.....the E3D routine really messes with me for some reason libido wise (day of shot libido super low, next day super high, next day low) and this is with several diff brands and cycles....just listened to my body and that is a protocol I have researched thoroughly
If you're just saving HCG for Pre pct then the 10 day protocol you're planning is fine.
I would get Aromasin bro. Instead of Adex. Just my opinion.
If you can afford it you could run hcgenerate during cycle like week 6 up until you start hcg. But thats your call. it can get expensive.
How long ago was your last cycle? I'm wondering based on your last cycle if (with dropping masteron) 600mg primo and 500mg test is going to do much for you at your experience level and current size. I can understand the $$ factor though. At your experience and size I would be thinking 800-1g primo and then just 500mg test under it if those were the only two compounds you were going to run.
If your dropping the masteron then you might consider 75-100 mg proviron throughout the cycle. You can still get that masteron type estrogen mediation which should eliminate the need for an on cycle A.I.
Or if your planning a full blown cutting cycle then I'd keep the masteron and raise the primo as much as your budget allows.
BTW, if you run proviron, run it right up until a day or two before PCT starts.
ballslee
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Yes I was thinking the same thing....like my last cycle ended at the end of June/PCT July and August.....so it has been one of the longer breaks I have had between cycles but still not very long to make those lower dosages awesome for me.
I think I may keep the mast because it will be cheaper than running proviron for me.....but the major question for me is the differences in primo dosages (400,600,800,1G)
-Is it substantially better with each increase?
If I kept the original cycle and increased the primo to 600 w mast at 500...,could be pretty solid?
Or would primo 800 with winny and Var orals throughout (with breaks using aromasin) be a better option?
My thoughts for hcg were that with these lighter compounds Hcg isn't as necessary as with previous 19-nors so I was thinking this would be a fairly light cycle in terms of shutdown and recovery....but plus the cost of primo, don't know if Hcgenerate will be viable.
I think in your situation you would want to run the primo as high as possible. I personally have never run it. It's too rich for my blood(or I'm just too cheap maybe) . But if I do ever get to I plan on no less than 600 wk and you have got 70 lb on me.
Are you planning on a full on cutter with this cycle? If so then I'd say run it as is. If this is going to be a clean bulker then I would probably hold of on primo until you can run more.
As for differences between dose increases I can only comment on peoples experiences that I have read. Everyone says there is a good deal of difference between 400 and 600 mg wk. One of the things I always remember reading was one guy on here (i can't remember who) saying that 800-1g heavenly. But even at that I think it depends on your cycle goals and your expectations of primo itself. I know a lot of guys try primo and are dissapointed because they are like 20% bf and can't see the results or they expect too much off primo and don't eat enough. Or they try and stack test/tren with it which to me is just stupid (tren with primo)
Are you planning on a full on cutter with this cycle? If so then I'd say run it as is. If this is going to be a clean bulker then I would probably hold of on primo until you can run more.
As for differences between dose increases I can only comment on peoples experiences that I have read. Everyone says there is a good deal of difference between 400 and 600 mg wk. One of the things I always remember reading was one guy on here (i can't remember who) saying that 800-1g heavenly. But even at that I think it depends on your cycle goals and your expectations of primo itself. I know a lot of guys try primo and are dissapointed because they are like 20% bf and can't see the results or they expect too much off primo and don't eat enough. Or they try and stack test/tren with it which to me is just stupid (tren with primo)
I like the first one. If this is a cutter I hope you're using prop? I'd tag the var on the end if it were me.
TheRippedReverend
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I agree with burn
