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BiggT
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I've never read it, so I can't comment.....but here is some bodybuilding truth if you want it.....progressively get good at squats, deadlifts, barbell rows, chins, bench presses, and military presses while eating more cals than you burn for growth.......then to drop added fat, cut cals below maintainence and continue to train heavy on the bread and butter lifts that built your physique, but with reduced overall volume/total workload.
eager2learn
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BiggT said:
I'm not nearly at this point yet, but if a beginner decides to cut down on bodyweight for the first time, by what percent volume and calories should he cut down on?
NJL52
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eager2learn said:
Lots of info all over the forums. But your question comes down to opinion. Nobody realy has a 100% answer. On my first ever cut I went from bulking immediately to 2400 calories a day. And aside from Christmas week I have been losing weight rather nicely.
So, in my opinion, it depends how strong your will is. If you think you can do a 2400 calorie diet then do it.
Cynical Simian
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I'd say it depends more on activity level and metabolic rate than willpower. Like you said, there's no categorical answer. eager2learn, just gradually reduce calories until you're losing weight at your desired rate. So, for example, if you've been gaining about a pound per week during your bulk, start by reducing your calories by ~500/day. That should put you around a maintenance intake, and from there you can reduce further to start losing weight.NJL52 said:
BiggT
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Yeah....again, it depends on the individual, they're own metabolic rate, the activities they engage in etc etc.....generally, you don't want drastic decreasesm to spare muscle think the same way you built it.....progressively decrease cals.
A basic rule of thumb is you don't want to create a caloric deficit by reducing protein, try to keep the protein cals where they were when bulking and create a deficit in other areas.
A basic rule of thumb is you don't want to create a caloric deficit by reducing protein, try to keep the protein cals where they were when bulking and create a deficit in other areas.
So I bought the book (Bodybuilding Truth) and read it last night. Today was shoulder day so I decided to do the author's shoulder workout. Well it was awesome to say the least. Each exercise felt great and really pushed me to my limits and beyond. Prior to this I was doing a workout for my shoulders inspired by a Milos segment on the Fit Show. I'm going to take parts from each workout though for my routine next week. I just wanted to let you guys know that so far so good with Bodybuilding Truth. Also, the chapter on the History of the Supplement Industry is hilarious. Cheers.
NJL52
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From looking at this page, http://www.elitefitness.com/reports/truth/, I don't like it. It mentions stuff like "Perfect abs in just 20 minutes a week!" Anything that says stuff like that is just trying to appeal to the lazy people who want the easy way to getting into shape.
The truth is, there is no easy way. There is no 20 minutes a week for perfect anything. The only solution is hard work and a disciplined diet. Get starting strength.
Wow.......I got to this.
DO NOT BUY THIS BOOK
The truth is, there is no easy way. There is no 20 minutes a week for perfect anything. The only solution is hard work and a disciplined diet. Get starting strength.
Wow.......I got to this.
DO NOT BUY THIS BOOK
Damn I couldn't find it for free. I found it interesting regardless. In terms of the 20 min component I didn't find it to be for the lazy. It's just more about efficiency. That's what it seems at least but I've only done the shoulder routine and I thought it was good. I still have to try everything else. Plus everyone has their own "truths" about bodybuilding in general so more information is always welcome in my book. It's not a waste of time just another bodybuilder who thinks he "knows" a constant about bodybuilding just like the thousands of guys and gals who come here. But this is what keeps everyone talking so that's great for everyone.
M, 24, 6'1, 200, 10% BF. Bulking right now. Lifting for a few years, seriously for 2 years. Started at 175-180 lbs. I eat clean. No garbage. I get the majority of my protein from red meat and milk. I just started a creatine mono but its making me very bloated so I don't know if I'm going to continue. I'm also taking Bev. International Glutamine Select with BCAAs during my workouts with a scoops of Gatorade. Multivitamin in the morning of course and Muscle Milk for additional protein to hit my 200g+ of protein a day. No steroids. I'm just progressing along making gains by lifting heavy and consistently. I also change my workouts monthly to make sure my body keeps guessing but all the staples remain (Barbell rows, Benches, Squats, Deadlifts,...). Also I think his section on diet relates to the point that we are all limited by nature. Some of us have advantages!! He does say something ridiculous about people in prison getting built while eating garbage. Of course guys in prison in MOVIES are built but I've never seen people in jail that I thought to myself "Gee I want to look like that guy."
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NJL52
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anadivine said:
Few things I want to comment about, forgive me for chewing your ear off.
First thing, I would perfect your diet. That book was 100% wrong when it said that diet doesn't matter. Any person on these forums will tell you, both aspects of bodybuilding(lifting and diet) are both 100% important.
Since you didn't list a calorie intake or macro, I'm going to assume you don't have a strict diet. You should be eating around 3600 calories a day. For bulking that puts you at about 360 grams of protein, 360 grams of carbs and 80 grams of fat a day.
And since you are bulking, I suggest focusing on the compound lifts. Starrs 5x5 intermediate would be my suggestion. Focusing on the compounds is the best way to put on mass.
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