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Blood Work Question

buddhabuilder

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Just finishing up a 10 week Test E cycle, at 400mg per week split in 2. I can't say I have noticed any changes in weight, strength, or appearance that I wouldn't have noticed with the training and diet I have been using, so I'm figuring I'll get bloods done before pulling the trigger on over $200 bucks worth of PCT. It is the only way to be sure if the gear was bunk or under dosed or what. I found a local place where, with an internet coupon I can get the following results for 50 bucks;



Estradiol, Serum Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH) Testosterone, Serum
Complete Blood Count (CBC) Comprehensive Metabolic Profile

Is this enough to know where my system is at?
 
Can I ask what weight and bf% you started at, how long you've been training, what goals you had in mind and what did you gain? I'm not against a blood test at all, it's the best idea, but in the meantime, I am a little curious.

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Sounds like you would know your body and if the gear used was good or not. As long as you haven't blasted for years, I would think you would notice some gains. Keep us updated on the bloodwork. Good luck, man.

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Thanx Freakshow. Will get the test Friday (gotta fast overnight). Then I can have a yogurt preworkout drink on my way to the gym. Never touched the stuff (test or injectables of any kind), that's why I was surprised. I posted the stuff I was using in the gear forum, and everybody was like, "Wait til week 7, then it will kick in", but nothing. I got Tbol from the same place and was necking 100mg a day, and nothing from that too. I got better results from the couple of 6 week PH cycles I've done in the past. But the blood test will tell the tail, and if it looks like bunk, I'll give the lab the opportunity to sort it out rather than just start bad mouthing them. Maybe they got some weak raw material. The benefit is, I got referred to a TRT Dr. that will make it possible for me to get fresh lab gear on demand. I am considering moving in the blast & cruise direction. I'm gonna be 50 this year, hard to beleive.
 
Make sure you get the test before you start all your pct products so you get a clear picture of what the testosterone was doing to your system
 
buddhabuilder said:
Just finishing up a 10 week Test E cycle, at 400mg per week split in 2. I can't say I have noticed any changes in weight, strength, or appearance that I wouldn't have noticed with the training and diet I have been using, so I'm figuring I'll get bloods done before pulling the trigger on over $200 bucks worth of PCT. It is the only way to be sure if the gear was bunk or under dosed or what. I found a local place where, with an internet coupon I can get the following results for 50 bucks;



Estradiol, Serum Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH) Testosterone, Serum
Complete Blood Count (CBC) Comprehensive Metabolic Profile

Is this enough to know where my system is at?
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Been a lot of crap juice going around.. Working with a HG place these days and I will post what I think soon. I am going with nothing but the best from now on fuck the UG crap its done nothing but piss me off.
 
Thanx for chiming in guys. Yes, I won't do a thing till I take the test Friday AM. I imaging it is a couple days max to get the results and I'll post them here and give you guys a heads up. Not giving up is winning!
 
At 400 mg week you should easily be around the 1500 mark. It's a shame that you got mixed up with a shady bunch. I love the ugl gear I get its dirt cheap and potent. I have had hg gear and ugl and trust me if you have a legit ugl source they are damn close. If you can get a script from the doc I recommend it, but its good to have a ugl source to supplement from. The doc won't prescribe cycle doses.


Use code joeb15 for 15% of at Ntbm.

Use code TEAM1001 at ruthless supps for a $50 off discount on transaderm and phytoserms.
 
Alright guys, here it is. Tell me what you think. I am shy of the 1500 mark joeblow mentioned. What I am wondering is;
A) Should I PCT, Bridge, and plan a new cycle with my new source?
B) Just plan a new cycle now.
C) Any other ideas.

Test Serum 1256
LH .2
FSH .6
Estradiol 87.1
AST 45
ALT 46

Let me know if there is any other info I should include. It won't let me cut and paste.
 
buddhabuilder said:
Alright guys, here it is. Tell me what you think. I am shy of the 1500 mark joeblow mentioned. What I am wondering is;
A) Should I PCT, Bridge, and plan a new cycle with my new source?
B) Just plan a new cycle now.
C) Any other ideas.

Test Serum 1256
LH .2
FSH .6
Estradiol 87.1
AST 45
ALT 46

Let me know if there is any other info I should include. It won't let me cut and paste.
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its underdosed gear but it isn't bunk. its good enough to suppress you but only good enough to get your total T to 1200.

i would find a new source
 
stevesmi said:
its underdosed gear but it isn't bunk. its good enough to suppress you but only good enough to get your total T to 1200.

i would find a new source
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I agree. It's definitely under dosed.


Use code joeb15 for 15% of at Ntbm.

Use code TEAM1001 at ruthless supps for a $50 off discount on transaderm and phytoserms.
 
needtogetaas said:
Been a lot of crap juice going around.. Working with a HG place these days and I will post what I think soon. I am going with nothing but the best from now on fuck the UG crap its done nothing but piss me off.
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yup. we go through a lot during a cycle and to have it ruined because the chocolate cake we thought we were eating ends up tasting like key lime pie. pisses me off.
 
stevesmi said:
yup. we go through a lot during a cycle and to have it ruined because the chocolate cake we thought we were eating ends up tasting like key lime pie. pisses me off.
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LMAO... I love it...

definitely underdosed though and that's just fucked up... its a shame people do that to others...
 
So full PCT, and full time off? Or is this reduced because of the low dosage. Thanx for the insights guys.
 
Not cool at all...but it should be noted that underdosed UG labs is not the only ones on market.....or black market . There is plenty of what's thought to be HG gear out there that is in fact bunk underdosed..GOOD SOURCE is key
 
Thanx Guys. So I have the standard Clomid, Unleashed/Post Cycle/DAA PCT, then a 12 week SARMS bridge followed by a mini-PCT. Then I'll tap my new source for a 12 week Test e, Equipoise cycle with an Hdrol kicker. I'll post it all up for critique when the time gets closer.

Thanx again for all your help.

Any point in alerting the old source about the underdosed gear?
 
Dylan typically only recommends the SARMs stack as a bridge for 8 weeks - 12 is pushing it as S4 and Osta are both mildly suppressive.
 
buddhabuilder said:
Thanx notjake. So 10 week cycle + 2 weeks cruise + 4 week PCT = 16 weeks until next cycle?
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right, but you can still run an 8 week sarms stack and mini pct, followed by bridge the next 5 weeks which would be 16 weeks. You'd come into your next cycle bigger and stronger
 
Yep, go to a doc and get a proper work up done.

As for the gear -- just assume it's all underdosed -- which it is.
 
Thanx Rick, I got a referral for a Dr. that works with you and, within limits, lets you design your Rx. I'll post around the start of may with my next cycle design. I'm thinking 16 weeks Test e 500mg per week, Equipoise 400mg per week, with a Helladrol kicker.
 
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