Biggest Regret

[Nelson Montana]

I hate to see people make mistakes early on that'll cost them down the road. That's why it's always best to do less than more. Go shorter than longer. Use milder than stronger.

Although I'd probably be on HRT anyway at this point, I'd have to say there were a couple of things that may have exasperated the situation.

As careful and as conservative as I was with anabolic usage I'd have to say i made two big mistakes. One was using prohormones. I seriously believe they did more damage than anything else How permanent it was is anyone's guess. But I really wish I never listened to all the hype and I wish I never touched that shit.

The second was using Deca while dating a real hot girl and forever have her think I couldn't "man up." That sucked.

Live and learn.

(Well, at least some people do).

 

[Greatercow]

I hate to see people make mistakes early on that'll cost them down the road. That's why iut's always best to do less than more. Go shorter than longer. Use milder than stronger.

Although I'd probably be on HRT anyway at this point, I'd have to say there were a couple of things that may have exasperated the situation.

As careful and as conservative as I was with anabolic usage I'd have to say i made two big mistakes. One was using prohormones. I seriously believe they did more damage than anything else How permanent it was is anyone's guess. But I really wish I never listened to all the hype and I wish I never touched that shit.

The second was using Deca while dating a real hot girl and forever have her think I couldn't "man up." That sucked.

Live and learn.

(Well, at least some people do).

im kinda glad to hear this man i was always so skeptical about the use of prohormones..todays PH may give great results but at what cost ? noone knows yet..ive always wondered if they are like the real thing or even better then them like some claim why the hell isnt everyone on this stuff..

 

[searay]

the past is just that.....the past. the only thing the past is good for is not making the same mistakes and remembering the good times. why dwell on it or wish you could change things when you cant. as far as using it to help people well only about 10% are going to listen anyway. plus, just because deca makes one guy limp it doesnt mean it will make the next guy react the same way. everyone has to live and learn and then move on and let it go. why dwell on negative bullshit anyway.............

 

[Nelson Montana]

the past is just that.....the past. the only thing the past is good for is not making the same mistakes and remembering the good times. why dwell on it or wish you could change things when you cant. as far as using it to help people well only about 10% are going to listen anyway. plus, just because deca makes one guy limp it doesnt mean it will make the next guy react the same way. everyone has to live and learn and then move on and let it go. why dwell on negative bullshit anyway.............

I wouldn't call sharing experiences and passing along knowledge "dwelling on negative bullshit."

 

[swole]

I wish I didn't go through with the long test / EQ cycle. I should have dropped the EQ once anxiety symptoms were present and switched to my best friend...primo.

I realize deca isn't for me...but I might try something like 50mg per week for the clinical benefits.

Nolva sucks. Makes me depressed. Letro is a dick killer.

You want to bang like a champion? Test and masteron (or proviron). Throw some MTII, HCG and aromasin in there and you're on permanent viagra.

I was 185lbs before touching anything anabolic. My first cycle was an Ergopharm PH stack - 4-AD & 1-AD. I gained 20lbs in 6 weeks. Granted a good portion was water but I never looked back after that. I ran about 3 prohormone cycles before touching the "real" stuff.

The only thing I regret is I wish I trained like I did now back when I was 21. I'll thank OMEGA for changing the way I look at hitting the weights.

 

[goin on 4T]

I wouldn't call sharing experiences and passing along knowledge "dwelling on negative bullshit."

Yeah WTF is that all about. It is not dwelling on the negative it is just the realities of the past.

 

[1500]

the past is just that.....the past. the only thing the past is good for is not making the same mistakes and remembering the good times. why dwell on it or wish you could change things when you cant. as far as using it to help people well only about 10% are going to listen anyway. plus, just because deca makes one guy limp it doesnt mean it will make the next guy react the same way. everyone has to live and learn and then move on and let it go. why dwell on negative bullshit anyway.............

if people didnt share their experiences/results and research. THIS BOARD NOR ANY OTHERS WOULD BE AROUND!

 

[needtogetaas]

I wish I didn't go through with the long test / EQ cycle. I should have dropped the EQ once anxiety symptoms were present and switched to my best friend...primo.

I realize deca isn't for me...but I might try something like 50mg per week for the clinical benefits.

Nolva sucks. Makes me depressed. Letro is a dick killer.

You want to bang like a champion? Test and masteron (or proviron). Throw some MTII, HCG and aromasin in there and you're on permanent viagra.

I was 185lbs before touching anything anabolic. My first cycle was an Ergopharm PH stack - 4-AD & 1-AD. I gained 20lbs in 6 weeks. Granted a good portion was water but I never looked back after that. I ran about 3 prohormone cycles before touching the "real" stuff.

The only thing I regret is I wish I trained like I did now back when I was 21. I'll thank OMEGA for changing the way I look at hitting the weights.

+1 I am using the legal steroids now and I love it.

 

[captainahole]

The years I had to give up to be in business for myself. I had to give up the one true love training. I would have been a monster. I have seen the light and it is bright and shiny. So now instead I'll just have to do the grand masters next year. So is life.

 

[Rage-Of-Sparta]

one of my biggest regrets is not spending more time with my father b4 he passed away. i feel like a lot of our time was wasted

 

[dabuffguy]

im kinda glad to hear this man i was always so skeptical about the use of prohormones..todays PH may give great results but at what cost ? noone knows yet..ive always wondered if they are like the real thing or even better then them like some claim why the hell isnt everyone on this stuff..

Some of the "PH"s aren't PH at all, but are real steroids. they work well, are already active compounds and work just like the illegals. it's good shit.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Some of the "PH"s aren't PH at all, but are real steroids. they work well, are already active compounds and work just like the illegals. it's good shit.

The problem is, that's what they said about all the other stuff that tuned out to have negative sides.

Hey, cholesterol is a steroid. Using the name doesn't mean anything.

If there was a legal steroid that's remotely as safe and effective as an illegal one. I'd use it. I'm still waiting on that. Then again, I'm picky. I won't use EQ or tren because the sides outweigh the benefits IMO.

 

[BigBastard]

The problem is, that's what they said about all the other stuff that tuned out to have negative sides.

Hey, cholesterol is a steroid. Using the name doesn't mean anything.

If there was a legal steroid that's remotely as safe and effective as an illegal one. I'd use it. I'm still waiting on that. Then again, I'm picky. I won't use EQ or tren because the sides outweigh the benefits IMO.

I have never experienced any sides from EQ. And with tren only sweating. Have I missed something?

I´m with you on the deca-issue however, but my problem was only lack of interest, I could get hard if I had to.

 

[Varga]

This is a good thread Nelson....I might not agree with you in some of your views but I like the thinking behind this thread!
I got to admit that not being able to get it up for hot girl def sucks ass big time. At least now I know why you don't like deca

As for me, i don't regret anything I did. If I had to do it all over again I would have stuck with milder compounds at first for few years and kept cycles shorter then 12 weeks.

 

[lilj888]

I hate to see people make mistakes early on that'll cost them down the road. That's why it's always best to do less than more. Go shorter than longer. Use milder than stronger.

Although I'd probably be on HRT anyway at this point, I'd have to say there were a couple of things that may have exasperated the situation.

As careful and as conservative as I was with anabolic usage I'd have to say i made two big mistakes. One was using prohormones. I seriously believe they did more damage than anything else How permanent it was is anyone's guess. But I really wish I never listened to all the hype and I wish I never touched that shit.

The second was using Deca while dating a real hot girl and forever have her think I couldn't "man up." That sucked.

Live and learn.

(Well, at least some people do).

ya all of a sudden there is a hype of ph, when a few months ago everyone said there terrible. alot of ppl are loosing there credit to me on this board. they say one thing and then change it up and say another a week later.


i dont live without regrets and i dont live to forget. I live to learn from my mistakes. If i didnt i wouldnt get anywhere.

 

[dabuffguy]

ya all of a sudden there is a hype of ph, when a few months ago everyone said there terrible. alot of ppl are loosing there credit to me on this board. they say one thing and then change it up and say another a week later.


i dont live without regrets and i dont live to forget. I live to learn from my mistakes. If i didnt i wouldnt get anywhere.

I never even looked into or cared to look into the "PH"'s until recently, and I have got to say that havoc, cyclotren and monsterdrol are not PH's, they are steroids. Legal aas.

Monsterdrol is methylmasteron/oral masteron just like dbol is alkylated EQ. There's nothing more legit than that stuff. You wouldn't be disappointed with it at all.


Yeah, the illegal stuff is better than the legal due to the fact that we know lots about them and medical studies have been performed on them. Dbol/test will always be preferred by me over any legal stuff, but it doesn't mean some of the legal stuff is good shit.

 

[lilj888]

I never even looked into or cared to look into the "PH"'s until recently, and I have got to say that havoc, cyclotren and monsterdrol are not PH's, they are steroids. Legal aas.

Monsterdrol is methylmasteron/oral masteron just like dbol is alkylated EQ. There's nothing more legit than that stuff. You wouldn't be disappointed with it at all.


Yeah, the illegal stuff is better than the legal due to the fact that we know lots about them and medical studies have been performed on them. Dbol/test will always be preferred by me over any legal stuff, but it doesn't mean some of the legal stuff is good shit.

ya i see what ur saying, but if u had looked into them more u will find many posts about how bad PHs are. we have the same ppl that were saying how much ph's suck, saying how amazing they are now. Just type in the search prohormones (titles only), look at the threads a few months back, and you will see exactly what im talking about.

 

[dabuffguy]

ya i see what ur saying, but if u had looked into them more u will find many posts about how bad PHs are. we have the same ppl that were saying how much ph's suck, saying how amazing they are now. Just type in the search prohormones (titles only), look at the threads a few months back, and you will see exactly what im talking about.

Yeah, I see what you are talking about. Lots of guys saying don't waste your money, bad sides, no gains etc. They never really mentioned WHICH pro-hormones most of the time. Since before JAM came on here and carried some of these, people never used them. It sparked a lot of interest and the 3 that have reall been getting good reviews are havoc, cyclotren and monsterdrol/equivalent.

The thing is, the only 3 that people are really suggesting are the havoc, cyclo-tren and the monsterdrol/superdrol clones. I have used cyclotren and havoc stacked, and I can honestly say, I got surprisingly good gains with zero sides besides very mild acne on my shoulders. My dumbbell press went up 15 pounds per side on the run, which is like 35 pounds on bench in like 4 weeks once I added in havoc with cyclotren WHILE IN CALORIC DEFECIT! I didn't even get any nut shrinkage, and recovery has been a breeze. Feeling good, and have kept all of my gains. I actually have gained 2 pounds since going off. I'm leaner, heavier and stronger than before. Can't argue with results. I have a long log in the supps section.


Needto stands by monsterdrol, and I have 2 bottles on my dresser that I will be using. I can't comment from personal experiences, but needto-approved products are good to go.

 

[access]

ya all of a sudden there is a hype of ph, when a few months ago everyone said there terrible. alot of ppl are loosing there credit to me on this board. they say one thing and then change it up and say another a week later.

Amen..I will never do PH's. I don't begrudge those that do but not for me. There is just no research of real validity into any of this stuff. Not enough anyway that would convince to use them at this time. "Illegal" AAS has an enormous background of clinical research and study because it is used for the most part in a lot of legal ways. There are guys who have been using this stuff for many years so anecdotal eveidence also abounds to the rights and wrongs when using it.

 

[holzy3]

the past is just that.....the past. the only thing the past is good for is not making the same mistakes and remembering the good times. why dwell on it or wish you could change things when you cant. as far as using it to help people well only about 10% are going to listen anyway. plus, just because deca makes one guy limp it doesnt mean it will make the next guy react the same way. everyone has to live and learn and then move on and let it go. why dwell on negative bullshit anyway.............

reading and learning from other peoples experience is the only reason i come onto this board. i hazard a guess but i would suggest that it is why the board was setup in the first place. its not negative bullshit at all.

 

[misticat]

i regret buying shit from under ground labs and overseas online pharmacies!!! I have had stuff taken by customs 4 or 5 times wasted money.. injected packets of aroma therapy?? what was i thinking.. I have had infections from it.. and i know some of the gear i have gotten from some under ground labs was fake.. who knows what i was injecting..and also on top of all that i regret the most of taking this stuff and not respecting it, one of my friend has been in the hospital cause his liver failed. And i was just taking and injecting stupid amounts not knowing what everything did..

drinking everynight staying up doing coke on 3 day binges with strippers while on 1g of test and dbol.. and really never coming off.. I'm glad I grew up and didnt continue down that path now..

 

[halfcenturian]

Regrets are just life experiences that didn't go our way.

Too many to list. Too much gear. Poor PCT planning. Staying on a particular steroid too long, when I should have bailed.

These are not necessarily bad things. We learn from them. Regrets should not be dwelled upon... OR feared. Everything in my life happened just like it was suppose to... good or bad.
We make choices and take the consequences. How else do we learn?

The phrase, "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" should include "also makes you smarter/wiser." We learn from our mistakes.

Even the most educated and experienced steroid users fuck up.
The same goes in general for everyday life.

 

[SaiBoT]

Maybe all of what happened to us was meant to be... maybe it was the only way we could learn, by our own mistakes, maybe somebody told us don't do that it's bad for you, but we did it! Maybe because our nature is to be selfish and egocentrical! Maybe we thought we are diferent and better, and that kind of thing only happens to others, not to us the "God chosen ones" butr it did happen! And now here we are sharing experiences hoping that others listen to us (when we were the ones who refused to listen) and don't make our mistakes.

All in all I love elitefitness, it has a noble cause and I think this is a good thread, if even only one person listen to us is worth the effort.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

biggest mistake i made was poor training methods and diet, if only i knew how to do it when i first started

 

[lookinfit75]

Does DHEA fall into the PH category? Too many regrets to mention and as I am starting to truly mature I am finally learning from those mistakes. I am trying to be better today than I was yesterday and praying that God will give me the strength and clarity of mind to better tommorow that I am today.

 

[galaxy]

Funny, If I go back to 1994 my biggest regret was I only bought 100 Russian Dbol. I wish I had gotten about 300 tabs and 30 Sustanon Redi-jects amps. At the time I said I would never do needles and didnt get any Redi-jects. 1000 injections later.lol

 

[VeteranNewbie88]

Well one big mistake I made was: Back in 2001-2002 I cycled quite a few great runs of AAS and made some monstrous gains...I was deep in the world of AAS..and ran with the NPC crowd..but I used strictly for personal use...I never was a source. Well I had been saving up some orders so I wouldnt have to make as many transactions and not have to worry as much and I had accumulated enough to keep me going for easily 2 yrs. Lets just say that when one of my sources got busted and the Attorney General's office came knocking on lots of my friends doors to ask questions, I freaked out and became afflicted with SEVERE paranoia LOL. Instead of just cleaning house and finding a secure safe hiding place for my shit, I *tear* threw it all away. GREAT European stuff, Test galore, EQ, Winny, D-bol, A-Bombs, Tren..and all manner of PCT. I had it all in one box and in my irrational freaked out fearful state of mind....I buried that shit in a random dumpster and never looked back. The cops never did come to my door..and never contacted me for any reason although I did have 1st hand knowledge that they were asking about me...all for personal use too. I got amazing prices through some superb connections so it was a ton of gear...Prob. about 8K worth that I paid 5K for...gone. Yes, I am an idiot.

 

[smtimelevi]

Well one big mistake I made was: Back in 2001-2002 I cycled quite a few great runs of AAS and made some monstrous gains...I was deep in the world of AAS..and ran with the NPC crowd..but I used strictly for personal use...I never was a source. Well I had been saving up some orders so I wouldnt have to make as many transactions and not have to worry as much and I had accumulated enough to keep me going for easily 2 yrs. Lets just say that when one of my sources got busted and the Attorney General's office came knocking on lots of my friends doors to ask questions, I freaked out and became afflicted with SEVERE paranoia LOL. Instead of just cleaning house and finding a secure safe hiding place for my shit, I *tear* threw it all away. GREAT European stuff, Test galore, EQ, Winny, D-bol, A-Bombs, Tren..and all manner of PCT. I had it all in one box and in my irrational freaked out fearful state of mind....I buried that shit in a random dumpster and never looked back. The cops never did come to my door..and never contacted me for any reason although I did have 1st hand knowledge that they were asking about me...all for personal use too. I got amazing prices through some superb connections so it was a ton of gear...Prob. about 8K worth that I paid 5K for...gone. Yes, I am an idiot.

-moment of silence-

i shed a tear reading that

My personal regrets-

bad or no pct

letting diet go to hell while on in an attempt to put on mass( I thought mexican food was ideal for bulking) that taco place loved my ass. Needless to say the mass ended up on my midsection

not training as intense as I can while on

All in all if I hadnt made those mistakes then I would be making them now. I know that I will continue to make mistakes and learn from them. Thats what humans do, at least the smarter ones.

 

[the elite addict]

Pro-hormones suck. Thats shit hasnt been regulated by the FDA. Use a real AAS that has been.

 

[OneBreath]

My first cycle was a 3 week superdrol. I jumped into that without knowing what i was doing. I blew up like crazy, strength through the roof, did a good PCT and then lost every pound and every bit of strength within 2 months. It was all for nothing because my diet and training sucked.

 

[Varga]

Well one big mistake I made was: Back in 2001-2002 I cycled quite a few great runs of AAS and made some monstrous gains...I was deep in the world of AAS..and ran with the NPC crowd..but I used strictly for personal use...I never was a source. Well I had been saving up some orders so I wouldnt have to make as many transactions and not have to worry as much and I had accumulated enough to keep me going for easily 2 yrs. Lets just say that when one of my sources got busted and the Attorney General's office came knocking on lots of my friends doors to ask questions, I freaked out and became afflicted with SEVERE paranoia LOL. Instead of just cleaning house and finding a secure safe hiding place for my shit, I *tear* threw it all away. GREAT European stuff, Test galore, EQ, Winny, D-bol, A-Bombs, Tren..and all manner of PCT. I had it all in one box and in my irrational freaked out fearful state of mind....I buried that shit in a random dumpster and never looked back. The cops never did come to my door..and never contacted me for any reason although I did have 1st hand knowledge that they were asking about me...all for personal use too. I got amazing prices through some superb connections so it was a ton of gear...Prob. about 8K worth that I paid 5K for...gone. Yes, I am an idiot.

Dude wtf....?
My praiers are with the lost gear....RIP!