Dud you are absolutely smoking crack if you think you are going to gain those results with orals alone. You are going to have to pick it up and go for Ref.-B and some other serious stuff if you want those results. And you are going to see the side effects. If it is your first cycle... you may see 10-15 pound gain on orals alone. But if you throw in some Test. and some good injectables you could see 30-40 lbs on your first cycle. But you are not going to keep it all. Start off slow and think of doing it over 1-2 years. Or you are do some serious damage. Trust me, I know. D-Bol I think is the best, but you are not going to keep a lot of gains unless you do something for coming off your cycle. Just be sure you have a good pyramid.