Best cycle ever!...

[Frackal]

......would have a good dose of test in it, but since I cant use much test, please critique my happy hair cycle...I was thinking of keeping the deca at 600mg a week to 7 weeks to lessen HPTA shutdown, then run the EQ and test 2 weeks past the deca as follows:

Week- Deca/Eq/Test/Inuslin, 10ius 2x a day, 2 days max a week


1. 600mg/5-700mg/90-100mg/Slin
2. 600mg/5-600mg/90-100mg/Slin
3. 600mg/5-600mg/90-100mg/Slin
4. 600mg/5-600mg/90-100mg/Slin
5. 600mg/5-600mg/90-100mg
6. 600mg/5-600mg/90-100mg
7. 600mg/5-600mg/90-100mg
8. 5-600mg/90-100mg
9. 400mg/90-100mg
10. Slin
11. Slin
12. Slin

Than proceed with clomid, hcg, antiestro such as arimi, nolva or let, possibly bromocriptine...

Slin for the kickoff and comeoff....

Thinking test enanthate or sustanon would be the best choice for the test.

- A little confused still about best way to run HCG, any help is appreciated

- Wondering about the deca, is 600mg going to likely be harsh on the hair? I'm guessing no, is it likely to be harsh on the nipples? I've used 400mg in the past with no troubles

 

[40butpumpin]

Hey, bro. Is there a reason that you chose 600mg deca? From what I've seen and heard, anything over 400mg is a gyno risk. But then if you're prone I imagine any amount would cause a problem. I've been doing 400mg for over a year now with a few short breaks here and there and haven't had any problems at all.

I've also use HCG quite a bit over the past 2 years. My opinion on it is to do 3 weeks at 500iu ed beginning right when you stop the test. The Clomid should be started right when the HCG finishes. If it were a heavy and long test cycle some recommend doing some HCG at mid cycle too.

If I were you I'd go with prop because with that much eq your appetite is going to be up there and because of that will probably be taking in a bit more sodium. The longer acting esters like cyp and enanthate tend to bloat me so the last thing I need or want in my system then is more sodium. Sus has long acting esters in it as I'm sure you know. Some people also bloat a bit on deca too. So prop might be a good choice for that cycle.

One last thing, with that little amount of test, I honestly don't think you're gonna need an anti-e. You don't need it for the deca or eq either so I'd lay off it. With that cycle, considering that little amount of test, I think it would hamper your gains more than you'd benefit from it. You may want to just leave the test, and therefore HCG, out altogether.

Good luck with it bro, I'd be interested in hearing exactly what you decide and how you do on it. I've heard that deca/eq can be an awesome combo.

 

[bbkingpin]

Who ever suffered gyno from deca if using Nolvadex???

 

[40butpumpin]

Who ever suffered gyno from deca if using Nolvadex???

Are you suggesting that Nolvadex is 100% gaurantee that you won't get gyno? If that's true I sure didn't know it.

 

[Frackal]

40 I see your point, the purpose of the test is to give your body some supply of testosterone to hopefully decrease recovery time from the deca, with prop I'd have to inject like ED ... 15mg a day or something,,,not really feasible but would be preferable if I were doing more....the anit E woudl be for coming off cycle

What are everyone's thoughts on deca at 600mg? Ive done it at 400mg with no problems....is vitex likely to be helpful in addition to possibly nolvadex during at least the first portion of the cycle to determine if I'll be ok or not..?

 

[Canuck4]

Nolva cant do nothing for prog gyno.
But since you got the bromo there 600mg Deca should be ok. If you start noticing anything just pop the bromo or lower the Deca dose. But 600mg its not that bad.

Who ever suffered gyno from deca if using Nolvadex???

 

[Athernigy]

40 I see your point, the purpose of the test is to give your body some supply of testosterone to hopefully decrease recovery time from the deca, with prop I'd have to inject like ED ... 15mg a day or something,,,not really feasible but would be preferable if I were doing more....the anit E woudl be for coming off cycle

What are everyone's thoughts on deca at 600mg? Ive done it at 400mg with no problems....is vitex likely to be helpful in addition to possibly nolvadex during at least the first portion of the cycle to determine if I'll be ok or not..?

I don't think vitex would help. Vitex increases progesterone and decreases prolactin ...

-sk

 

[raider2124]

Hey Frackal how old are you???

 

[Frackal]

20

 

[Watson]

Yeah, there's no way you'll get prog gyno as long as your taking nolvadex. LOL!

 

[raider2124]

Holy shit ease up on the gear bro. Don't you want to see your mid 30's?

 

[Frackal]

Are you being serious

 

[rj420]

well

you are young, but at least you are keeping it relatively safe with more anabolics and little androgenic.

BTW, I got prog gyno from deca once I went over 400-500mg/week... Just my experience, but I am very prone to gyno, especially prog related.

 

[gilly6993]

what are your stats?

 

[40butpumpin]

Holy shit ease up on the gear bro. Don't you want to see your mid 30's?

Aside from the possible gyno risk from the big deca dose that cycle's pretty tame. We all know the dangers of slin, however. Is that what you're referring to, the slin?

 

[Judo Tom]

how many cycles have you done... and what did they consist of and what type of gains did you make on them?

is this a big jump in dosages for you?

its not a huge amount of gear but i would be worried about the deca..

did you think of keeping the deca at 400 (or whatever you used last time) and increasing the eq dosage?

just curious..

good luck bro

 

[CYPRIOSQUATS]

Hey would vitex be good to take without anything else off a cycle i remember seeing something on this and i have some left from my last cycle but i don't know where to find this post.
CYPRIO

 

[wartime100]

Who ever suffered gyno from deca if using Nolvadex???

Nolvadex does nothing to combat the projestrone caused by deca.

 

[Frackal]

This will be my third cycle, first cycle was designed to heal a severe back injury that I had, worked great, went from 175 injured weight past my previous natural roughly 197-200 to 211, started 2nd cycle shortly after getting stomach flu at 200, test enanthate at 850mg a week, hit 228....now 215 6' probably 8 percent bodyfat, pretty ripped on the midsection, can see vascularity.....

Have not yet had a problem with deca .. going to have bromo with me.... in reality we are looking at 600mg of deca for 7 weeks, 500mg eq for 10 weeks and a miniscule dosage of test, this is pretty mild for a 3rd cycle...most are a gram of test a week, some tren, dbol, eq etc etc etc

 

[WannaImpress]

Have not yet had a problem with deca .. going to have bromo with me.... in reality we are looking at 600mg of deca for 7 weeks, 500mg eq for 10 weeks and a miniscule dosage of test, this is pretty mild for a 3rd cycle...most are a gram of test a week, some tren, dbol, eq etc etc etc

That is a nice cycle right their Frackal. As you know I have some Anavar and have been trying to decide on either the Anavar only or something similiar to what you have posted above. One of my main concerns is keeping my damn hair!

 

[Frackal]

This SHOULD be very safe on the hair