Avena Sativa Dosage

[Nelson Montana]

Does Provi lower shbg? What's the deal on provi?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1900485

Yes, but you can't use Proviron non stop.

 

[flexshack]

That is correct. And because an increase in LH can also cause an increase in estrogen, it can have a suppressive-like effect.

it is! wow, sometimes i even impress myself! lol! btw, is the desensitization to lh irreversible(like hcg) or will one gradually regain sensitivity over time? i am asking this b/c i took tribulus for over a month on a daily basis and hope i didn't do any permanent damage now.

 

[flexshack]

Yes, but you can't use Proviron non stop.

now i thought proviron just frees up testosterone b/c it binds to shbg. i didn't think that it actually decreases the amount of shbg, right? as a matter of fact, i thought that all aas will cause an increase in shbg over time as the body adjusts to the exogenous doses to form a homeostasis. am i wrong here?

 

[mt]

Yes, but you can't use Proviron non stop.

Why? It's original purpose was for ER and according to the package insert there's nothing about cycling.

 

[flexshack]

btw, speaking of avena sativa, is oatmeal that you buy in the store the same thing? and will it give the same effects as avena supplements will? if so, how much do you need to consume? thanks.

 

[11/2in22g5ccfilled]

no it has to be fresh green oats.

 

[Anakin]

Why? It's original purpose was for ER and according to the package insert there's nothing about cycling.

My personal experience (blood tests included) showed that proviron kept me suppressed after a cycle. Only once I dropped proviron did recovery of my HPTA begin at all.

 

[Nelson Montana]

My personal experience (blood tests included) showed that proviron kept me suppressed after a cycle. Only once I dropped proviron did recovery of my HPTA begin at all.

Proviron is meant to be taken to get you over the hump but yes, if you stay on too long it will delay recovery.

I'm leaning away from Proviron more and leaning more toward very low dose A-dex during a cycle and the herbal POST-CYCLE to get over the hump.

Anakin: I heard you did the Clomid and it helped. Good to hear it bro. As much as I don't like the stuff, you may be one of the lucky ones. But didn't you do HCG at the same time? My guess is that it was the HCG that did the trick. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I'd venture to guess there's no way your levels are going to stay elevated. But hopefully you gave your HPTA a little punt and it'll recover faster. I'd still recommend the herbals once the HCG wears off. At any rate, if you got so supressed from such a mild cycle, you may want to think twice about doing another one. Wait a while and see how you stabilize. I'd be curious to know your blood test levels in a month.

 

[mt]

My personal experience (blood tests included) showed that proviron kept me suppressed after a cycle. Only once I dropped proviron did recovery of my HPTA begin at all.

Would that apply to those already on HRT for life?

 

[twistedneck]

mt, if you are on trt shbg is the one nagging issue that can keep you from feeling great. despite having enough total T, your free T is low. some people just cant get shbg down and it could be caused by excess E. This is where a top quality trt doc can prescribe a-dex .5mg twice /week..