Avena Sativa Dosage

[Ttokkyo Jack]

Nelson what dose of Avena Sativa would you reccomend for pct?

 

[Nelson Montana]

It depends on what else you're taking that also lowers SHBG. If the avena is of good quality, 1000 mgs seems to be the magic number where it makes a difference. I think anything over 2 grams is overkill though since like vitamins, only so much can be utilized.

 

[flexshack]

It depends on what else you're taking that also lowers SHBG.

what else lowers shbg?

 

[Nelson Montana]

what else lowers shbg?

Uh oh,here we go. Everything I've found to lower SHBG I put in UNLEASHED. Read about it here: www.proteinfactory.com If anything else (tha's legal) is discovered to do so, I'll add it in, but for now, this is it.

There's been some suggestion that Carao also lowers SHBG but no studies have been done on it. Opinions vary as to its effectiveness.

 

[Mr. Black]

Hey Nelson, coming off a prop/tren cycle would it be prudent to start unleashed a couple weeks before cessation of the cycle (thus the effects of the herbs shouldb be under way)?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Hey Nelson, coming off a prop/tren cycle would it be prudent to start unleashed a couple weeks before cessation of the cycle (thus the effects of the herbs shouldb be under way)?

It couldn't hurt. If you're going to still be on for weeks, you may not notice its effects as much. I'd say once you're off completely, up the dosage and maybe add some Tribulus, "Post-Cycle" and you may even want to try Carao although opinions on Caraos effectiveness are mixed.

 

[Ganryu]

Nelson, I THOUGHT I read somewhere on the boards that tribulus may actually be suppressive. Just wondering if you had heard that at all. Thanks.

 

[flexshack]

Nelson, I THOUGHT I read somewhere on the boards that tribulus may actually be suppressive. Just wondering if you had heard that at all. Thanks.

i don't believe they are suppresive, but i do have an hypothesis about it. i wonder if after long term usage, one can get desensitized to their leuteinizing hormone since tribulus causes a somewhat large increase in it? (like hcg)?? just a thought to ponder over.

 

[Nelson Montana]

i don't believe they are suppresive, but i do have an hypothesis about it. i wonder if after long term usage, one can get desensitized to their leuteinizing hormone since tribulus causes a somewhat large increase in it? (like hcg)?? just a thought to ponder over.

That is correct. And because an increase in LH can also cause an increase in estrogen, it can have a suppressive-like effect.

 

[Singleton]

Does Provi lower shbg? What's the deal on provi?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1900485