agreed 110% !
I think it's also important that we let them know we're not rejecting them solely because of their age. Kids get frustrated by that all the time -- they see the restriction as simply an arbitrary rule -- something that's "not allowed" until they're a certain age. That's not the reason. There's a specific rational to not using steroids too early , one being that in the long run, gains will be LESS.
^^^ if they lie about their own stats then they are only hurting themselves!
usually if they post and its obvious they did not do any research I will tell them straight up to DO MORE RESEARCH. and if they ask questions like "how many mg's of X should i take and how often?" or "is nolva and clomid a good pct?" then i will try and steer them in the right direction but encourage them they need to dig more first and spend months researching.. and if they still have questions after all that then by all means bring it forward but atleast give an effort to answer your questions on your own first cause what will happen is they will unlock much more info



Personally I feel like a lot of guys come to ef for our help. If a person provides stats we should help them to the best of our ability. That's what ef is all about. However just because you don't like the answer you may receive does not mean the answer isn't the truth. Like not cycling with high bf% or jumping on a cycle without training and diet in order etc. This site is the reason I don't have lactating bitch tits and raisins for nuts. But the vets here at the time tested me before they would help me. They didn't want to waste their time if I hadn't done my own homework. I can look at someones cycle layout and pct and tell this within a couple of posts. Now I just give back as the good bros gave to me.
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