argument with my dad about squats led to an interesting phone call

[FunFun]

lol, ya,

That is an impressive list of credentials bblazer, any one of them on their own would be impressive (well except for #1, lol), but combined they are truly amazing.

I think #1 adds 10 fold to his impressiveness.

 

[bblazer]

I think #1 adds 10 fold to his impressiveness.

No, it just makes me old, cranky and in need of viagra.

B-

 

[djeclipse]

I think #1 adds 10 fold to his impressiveness.

Alone, it means he is just old.

But as I said, combined with everything else = amazing.

 

[LucSulla]

In Internet parlance, "Thread delivers!"

 

[Synpax]

Anyone got some peer-reviewed published stuff to throw around or is this continuing to be a dick measuring contest?

 

[bblazer]

Anyone got some peer-reviewed published stuff to throw around or is this continuing to be a dick measuring contest?

I don't know, when you used google, or in your own readings what did you find?

If you haven't done that yet, in Rippetoe's Starting Strength, he lists several independent, peer-reviewed studies done here in the US, and a few others done in Soviet Block countries. I am on vacation right now, so I can't look at my copy and cite them exactly for you.

B-

 

[SpyWizard]

OMG, you are one of the thousands of personal trainers that go around teaching clients bad form, spreading misinformation about what really is proper form.

I feel sorry for anyone that pays for that kind of service.

no, actually i am one of the trainers that teach correct form and make clients happy to give me money..

but you are???

 

[SpyWizard]

Military press 315? A military press is a standing overhead press with the heals together. Is this what you mean by militay press? I'm not trying to nitpick or be an ass, but people calling anything but a Military press a military press is one of my biggest pet peeves lol. A 315 press in any manner is impressive

true enough, i should have said a seated military press, or a modified Arnold press with flat bar

And thanks, it's one of my more impressive moves one i've been working on all winter...

What i like most about it in the seated position is the isolation to the muscle and the support given to the back..

 

[SpyWizard]

Wow.

You obviously know nothing about me.

Lets start with the facts.

1) I am WAY older than 48
2) I have been powerlifting since I was 20
3) I have 2 masters degrees. One in Nutritional Biochemistry with an emphasis in the transfer of nutrients between the blood/brain barrier, and one in Exercise Physiology.
4) Until 2 years ago I held M2 records in the squat and deadlift
5) I have consulted for 2 NFL strength programs specifically for lineman
6) I have never had any injury due to my workouts or competition
7) I have trained with Rippetoe, Simmons, Bergman, and had the opportunity to get a day with Ed Coan.

All that is just off the top of my head....

You read a book and took a class. Yeee haw.

Don't get into a dick measuring contest with me. I do not know everything, but you have a long way to go to be able to sit at my table and get sarcastic, condescending and patronizing, with me.

I would be happy to discuss why a deep squat is perfectly OK, but I suggest you buy Starting Strength by Rippetoe and read that first. Until then, please let me quote him.

"Anyone who says that full squats are "bad for the knees" has, with that statement, demonstrated conclusively that they are not entitled to an opinion about the matter. People who know nothing about a topic, especially a very technical one that requires specific training, knowledge, and experience, are not due an opinion about that topic and are better served by being quiet when it is asked about or discussed. For example, when brain surgery, or string theory, or the NFL draft, or women's dress sizes, or white wine is being discussed, I remain quiet, odd though that may seem. But seldom is this the case when orthopedic surgeons, athletic trainers, physical therapists, or nurses are asked about full squats. "
In the meantime, I would be happy to pass along to all the people I mentioned above how you believe they are wrong, and you one doc and one book are right.

B-

Well, congrats on those accomplishment..

1) my degrees are in criminal justice and computer science
2) been working out since i was 20 yrs old
3) sold my business 2 yrs ago and am semi retired, (still do some consulting) wife got tired of me being at home all the time and since i spend so much time at the gym it was a natural progression.

You'll have to excuse me as I no longer do strong man training, it's just too difficult on the ligaments and tendons, quality of life and life extension is more in line with my interests..

being able to copy paste from a book of someone else opinions means that you can read and believe in what that person says..

I do not train, nor train others to do strong man competitions, you do, and you did and that's great, sport specific training once again is not what I am interested in, nor will i train to it.

just like technology, medical information and what we know of the human body changes at an exponential rate, that which was good and accepted yesterday isn't what is desirable today.

And to finish with this subject, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they usually stink..

 

[resonator]

Analysis of variance (ANOVA) and Tukey post hoc tests indicated a significant difference (p < 0.001*, p = 0.056**) in the relative contribution of the GM during the concentric phases among the partial- (16.9%*), parallel- (28.0%**), and full-depth (35.4%*) squats.
There were no significant differences between the relative contributions of the BF, the VMO, and the VL at different squatting depths during this phase.

This means the weight wasn't transferred anywhere. The weight remained on the muscles throughout the entire range of motion, except for the gluteus maximus which actually increased activity the lower you went...

http://apt.allenpress.com/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1519%2F1533-4287(2002)016[0428%3ATEOBSD]2.0.CO%3B2&ct=1