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I think they should rethink that idea.

She shot for the first time yesterday against 2 ex military people and a woman that has been shooting for 50 + years.

She kicked our arses. She was the only one to get it in the pink and all the pen marks were hers. Damn, a carry permit with a .45 next week.

:Boomstick

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That's awesome
Yeah, trifling with either of you, I am not.
I'm a horrible shot. Good thing I was a Medic.
 
I'd never even held a firearm let alone discharged a weapon. We started with a BB Rifle, then a 22 caliber shotgun and finally a 22 caliber pistol. The posted target was from when we were shooting the handgun. I was the only one who got it in the pink. :) The men were both exmilitary (my husband hasn't shot in over 15 years), our host had 20 years in military but has MANY firearms and our hostess had been taught to (and shot regularly) since she was a little girl. She was an AWESOME shot.

I was told that I am a natural.

I was always TERRIFIED of firearms even though both parents had guns and carry permits and my brother also had several firearms. I was afraid of what it would "feel like" to pull the trigger... but after the first shot (where only the recoil was a shock to me) I was hooked. I had read before that women who fear firearms become quickly seduced by the power that wielding a weapon brings.

I concurr 100%...

Now I am eager to shoot game and fire a shotgun. The power must be awesome.

I can't wait to teach my girls the power that comes from wielding a firearm... heaven help any poor bastard who ever comes into my home with ill intentions. I have no doubt that I will not hesitate to blow a hole clear through them if they are fool enough to target MY home.
 
Give us 2 computers to work on and I will slaughter her.

r

LOL

I am not talking virtual bullshit.

I don't play... EVER.

And I would think that you would know that clicking a mouse quickly enough is not the same as the skill required to fire a gun properly... don't you?
 
LOL

I am not talking virtual bullshit.

I don't play... EVER.

And I would think that you would know that clicking a mouse quickly enough is not the same as the skill required to fire a gun properly... don't you?

Doesn't matter. I can just create a computer to drop a big ass bomb on your head. Don't fuck with us nerds!

r
 
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I highly recommend that EVERY WOMAN learn to shoot, handle and own a firearm.

To think of all the pieces of shit who put their hands on me and all I could do was cower.

Come try and put your hands on me now... motherFUCKER.
 
i wouldn't own one and don't want one my house.

i have security gates though, and once closed, it's close to impossible to get up to my house.
 
i wouldn't own one and don't want one my house.

i have security gates though, and once closed, it's close to impossible to get up to my house.

I respect your feelings.

Heck, I used to feel the same way...

...But I do not anymore.

I will take all the classes required to get my carry permit and will go to the range regularly for a few reasons, but most importantly because I know that there is nothing more dangerous than the gun in the hands of a person that either is afraid to use one or doesn't know how to use one properly. There will be a loaded weapon on my nightstand, loaded shotgun(s) in other places and I WILL carry a gun in my handbag or on a holster whenever it is legal.

I LOVE TEXAS...

If no one tries to do me harm, then no one will have to worry.
 
I'd never even held a firearm let alone discharged a weapon. We started with a BB Rifle, then a 22 caliber shotgun and finally a 22 caliber pistol. The posted target was from when we were shooting the handgun. I was the only one who got it in the pink. :) The men were both exmilitary (my husband hasn't shot in over 15 years), our host had 20 years in military but has MANY firearms and our hostess had been taught to (and shot regularly) since she was a little girl. She was an AWESOME shot.

I was told that I am a natural.

I was always TERRIFIED of firearms even though both parents had guns and carry permits and my brother also had several firearms. I was afraid of what it would "feel like" to pull the trigger... but after the first shot (where only the recoil was a shock to me) I was hooked. I had read before that women who fear firearms become quickly seduced by the power that wielding a weapon brings.

I concurr 100%...

Now I am eager to shoot game and fire a shotgun. The power must be awesome.

I can't wait to teach my girls the power that comes from wielding a firearm... heaven help any poor bastard who ever comes into my home with ill intentions. I have no doubt that I will not hesitate to blow a hole clear through them if they are fool enough to target MY home.

Kini, just treat it as an extension and you'll be fine. The recoil is overrated, if you are accurate with a sidearm you've got the basics down and ahead of the curve.
 
i wouldn't own one and don't want one my house.

i have security gates though, and once closed, it's close to impossible to get up to my house.

Haven't you heard that people that steal and kill commute? People like you always have the same thought, until the last thing they say is "shit" We talked to the congresswoman in tx that was in a Luby's.

Shooting rampage at Killeen Luby's left 24 dead | The Chronicle's First Century | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Our friends would have gone to Luby's for lunch that day, but workload prevented the outing because it happened to be "boss' day." Lucky thing for them, eh? We know these people personally. If they would have had lunch out, they would have been killed by a random psycho.


Living in the most affluent neighborhood means little when the guy that cuts your lawn decides to bring his friends to get some.. This never works out for the people that have a nail file.
 
Kini, just treat it as an extension and you'll be fine. The recoil is overrated, if you are accurate with a sidearm you've got the basics down and ahead of the curve.

You know what I found to be the most surprizing factor? That the airgun made more noise and had a greater recoil than the rifle AND the pistol.

Once I understood how to look through the site properly and time pulling the trigger when the target was where it should be (it was windy that day so EVERYONE was shocked that I put a round into the center of the target and several more into the black area) it was easy... effortless as a matter of fact.

When I say that I used to be TERRIFIED of firearms, I am not exaggerating.

Now I ain't afraid of a damned thing.
 
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I respect your feelings.

Heck, I used to feel the same way...

...But I do not anymore.

I will take all the classes required to get my carry permit and will go to the range regularly for a few reasons, but most importantly because I know that there is nothing more dangerous than the gun in the hands of a person that either is afraid to use one or doesn't know how to use one properly. There will be a loaded weapon on my nightstand, loaded shotgun(s) in other places and I WILL carry a gun in my handbag or on a holster whenever it is legal.

I LOVE TEXAS...

If no one tries to do me harm, then no one will have to worry.

newbies are sooo cute. My weapon of choice is the shotgun. :)
 
Haven't you heard that people that steal and kill commute? People like you always have the same thought, until the last thing they say is "shit" We talked to the congresswoman in tx that was in a Luby's.

Shooting rampage at Killeen Luby's left 24 dead | The Chronicle's First Century | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Our friends would have gone to Luby's for lunch that day, but workload prevented the outing because it happened to be "boss' day." Lucky thing for them, eh? We know these people personally. If they would have had lunch out, they would have been killed by a random psycho.


Living in the most affluent neighborhood means little when the guy that cuts your lawn decides to bring his friends to get some.. This never works out for the people that have a nail file.

yes, i know killers commute.
nobody cuts our lawn. nobody can get in without us letting them in. but i have kids and they have friends over... i do not want something that could kill them that easily sitting somewhere easily accessible.
I don't want it stolen and used to kill someone else. i don't want it accidentally going off and i don't want a gun coming into play in a dangerous situation that wasn't as dangerous before that.

i hear a lot more stories of accidental deaths than i do of housewives being home alone when someone tries to break in and she turns the tide with her personal handgun.
 
Great BM! I've owned a few... The first gun I owned was a Taurus 9mm, shot it a few times but wasn't comfortable with it. Then we bought a few shotguns, rifles and a AK47, I really enjoyed shooting the AK. I had only shot a handful of times, really jittery but pretty accurate. After the divorce, and my X taking all the guns I decided to go and buy my own, I purchased a Ruger45. I loved it!
 
i hear a lot more stories of accidental deaths than i do of housewives being home alone when someone tries to break in and she turns the tide with her personal handgun.

I'm with you on this one Stilleto.

Statsically you're 9 times more likely to accidentally kill yourself or a loved one with a gun in your house.

If you're sleeping the bad guy already has "the drop" on you if you reach for a gun you'll give him no chose.

If you're awake and have your wits about you, I'd rather take a shotgun to a handgun fight :)
 
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I think they should rethink that idea.

She shot for the first time yesterday against 2 ex military people and a woman that has been shooting for 50 + years.

She kicked our arses. She was the only one to get it in the pink and all the pen marks were hers. Damn, a carry permit with a .45 next week.

:Boomstick

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I bet she could hit that satanic cat I used to own, even if it tried to run away.





LOL>.....I'm only kidding
 
I do not intend to take a class, fill out some paperwork and keep a bunch of loaded firearms where anyone can have access to them in my home and "just forget about it unless I need it." Our hosts both grew up with guns, one was trained military over 20 years experience and his wife has been shooting since she was a little girl. They are in their 60's and NEVER had to draw a weapon on another human being (well he did in Vietnam but that is a given - we are talking civilian life). So I am thinkin that the statistics are pretty good that I won't have to fire on another human being either... that is, unless I happen to be in the new Luby's in Killeen... or some other situation which happens way too often anymore IMHO.

All of my children will be as capable as I in handling EVERY firearm I will have in my room or anyplace else in the house that is adjacent. They will know just how dangerous the weapons are. NO CHILD has any business in my bedroom or any room that is adjacent for any reason whatsoever. Handgun/shotgun if someone is in MY ROOM and they aren't supposed to be there (no more babies in the house) then they will meet their maker sooner than later and I will have zero qualms about being the one to send them there.

I will go to the range regularly w/my husband (and children when we get them). My husband has had vast experience with firearms and has yet to shoot someone *by accident*. He is 57. He was amazed at my natural talent and NON FEAR when it came to the weapons I handled. Trust me... time comes I will pull that trigger. Trick is, I suppose to never put yourslef in that position. If a body is in MY HOME and they aren't supposed to be there I will do what is necessary to protect myself, my family and my possessions. If a criminal WANTS to gain access to a place then there is no gate/security system that will keep ALL of them out. Are there deterents? Yes, of course, we have security system as well. But there is nothing that will take the place of a firearm in the hands of a trained shooter.

As I stated, just another one of the reasons why I LOVE the state of Texas.
 
I bet she could hit that satanic cat I used to own, even if it tried to run away.





LOL>.....I'm only kidding


It would take a bit of practise as the targets I was shooting at were not moving. That is next though for me. :) I bet I could shoot that cat as well. And no... I am NOT kidding. :chomp:
 
Haven't you heard that people that steal and kill commute? People like you always have the same thought, until the last thing they say is "shit" We talked to the congresswoman in tx that was in a Luby's.

Shooting rampage at Killeen Luby's left 24 dead | The Chronicle's First Century | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Our friends would have gone to Luby's for lunch that day, but workload prevented the outing because it happened to be "boss' day." Lucky thing for them, eh? We know these people personally. If they would have had lunch out, they would have been killed by a random psycho.


Living in the most affluent neighborhood means little when the guy that cuts your lawn decides to bring his friends to get some.. This never works out for the people that have a nail file.

Too many random psychos and folks having a bad day out there with guns.
For every story above there are multiple tragic stories of accidental deaths.
BM, If and when you do get your children to come and live with you, I hope there's a good lock on your nightstand and purse.
 
I think they should rethink that idea.

She shot for the first time yesterday against 2 ex military people and a woman that has been shooting for 50 + years.

She kicked our arses. She was the only one to get it in the pink and all the pen marks were hers. Damn, a carry permit with a .45 next week.

:Boomstick

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I carry a .45acp and use a different 45 for home protection. What's she looking at?
 
Too many random psychos and folks having a bad day out there with guns.
For every story above there are multiple tragic stories of accidental deaths.
BM, If and when you do get your children to come and live with you, I hope there's a good lock on your nightstand and purse.

What good is a loaded gun if it is locked away? Sorta like me telling my rapist, "Would you mind putting this condom on before you brutally rape me?" (Too bad I didn't have a condom when I got raped at the age of barely 15).

And there is no "IF" in the matter of my children living with me. There was never any reason that they shouldn't have BEEN living with me. The crimes committed against my family have been EGREGIOUS. I know you speak from a good place in your heart, but that topic is NOT open for discussion on this or any other thread on chat on elite.

Even then there will be no babies in my home. NO ONE is allowed in my handbag, not even my husband. Chances are my handgun will be in a holster of sorts when it is on my person.

If my 12 year old child does not understand the deadly force of a firearm or how to handle one properly (ie it is not a toy and ALL guns are loaded you NEVER EVER point one at someone unless you intend to kill that person - and not VIDEOGAME kill, we are talking DEAD kill) then either I deserve to be shot for my gross ineptness as a human being and mother or my kid should be taken out of the gene pool for being too disobedient or too dumb to follow what I am telling them. PERIOD.

I know this sounds harsh but children have been growing up around firearms (both my parents and older brother had firearms that were loaded at all times and that they carried on their person) for generations as they were necesseties for one reason or another. Did accidents and tragedies occur? NO DOUBT, a lot of people also slipped in the bathtub and died... but way more tragedies occur when defenseless law-abiding citizens are not able to arm themselves. I live in a place where I have that ability IF I so choose it.

EVERY ONE that comes to my home that has a child that isn't old enough to drive themselves to and from my home (and even then it will be anounced) will know pointblank - I have loaded firearms in the house.

DONT TOUCH THEM. Guns don't go off by themselves.

Seems simple to me. :whatever:

Rottenwillow - I just shot for the first time yesterday so there is a whole world of knowledge and experience I need to glean before I can make a decision on what is proper for ME.
 
climb the gate? :confused:

not an easy gate to climb, plus it's got iron spikes across the top.

they could climb the rock wall/cliff in front of my house too if they really really wanted to (it's shale and crumbles easily anyway), but why? so they could be met by my dog? they could go down the road and break into that house instead.
 
not an easy gate to climb, plus it's got iron spikes across the top.

they could climb the rock wall/cliff in front of my house too if they really really wanted to (it's shale and crumbles easily anyway), but why? so they could be met by my dog? they could go down the road and break into that house instead.

so basically...I need to bring some meat to occupy your dog?
 
yes, i know killers commute.
nobody cuts our lawn. nobody can get in without us letting them in. but i have kids and they have friends over... i do not want something that could kill them that easily sitting somewhere easily accessible.
I don't want it stolen and used to kill someone else. i don't want it accidentally going off and i don't want a gun coming into play in a dangerous situation that wasn't as dangerous before that.

i hear a lot more stories of accidental deaths than i do of housewives being home alone when someone tries to break in and she turns the tide with her personal handgun.

I hear of people using their hair dryers in the shower, but, the fact of the matter is. People that have guns need to be responsible to teach everyone in the house how to use weapons.

The people you mentioned seem to have been weeded out of the gene pool.

I don't want that one guy who just happens to wonder into my house to harm my wife or me.

Plus I don't know many people that "let" burglers/murders/drug addicts into their house, they seen to not really care if you have a nice glass door. They just break it. Our home is all glass so entering is easy, please don't think they will knock on the door at 3am knowing you will answer and say "Hi"

Please this argument is really poor. Protection of your home and property is your right, because you don't wish to exercise it allow others that will protect both you and me that option.

Abolishing/controlling guns works about as well as prohibiting alcohol being sold. The only ones that have either are those that you really don't want to meet.

When some nut comes into a McDonalds and starts shooting you better hope there are a couple folks that have taken the time to get a CW permit and stop him before he kills anyone.

McDonald's Massacre 1984 - AOL Video

So please don't tell that these things never happen. All it takes is once, but, hey they happen all the time.
 
I'm with you on this one Stilleto.

Statsically you're 9 times more likely to accidentally kill yourself or a loved one with a gun in your house.

If you're sleeping the bad guy already has "the drop" on you if you reach for a gun you'll give him no chose.

If you're awake and have your wits about you, I'd rather take a shotgun to a handgun fight :)

But wait, you drive a yaris! Safe as can be!
 
Rottenwillow - I just shot for the first time yesterday so there is a whole world of knowledge and experience I need to glean before I can make a decision on what is proper for ME.


Sure. Try several different ones of course.

I've found a big part of it is finding a weapon that fits (a woman's) the hand correctly. I carry a Glock 30, which works well with the grip I use. Any subcompact appropriate for carry though is going to pack it's recoil into a smaller area than a fullsize, so be forewarned that a carry is going feel like it's recoiling more. Make sense?

The other big part is if you can't get over your anxiety about firing a given weapon, then forget that one and move on. You must eventually be completely comfortable with firing your personal protection.
 
Please this argument is really poor. .

lol, yes it it a poor arguement... too bad you supplied both sides of it. lol

i never said someone will just come knocking on your door. they might break in, yes. or like you said, you might inadvertently invite them in by hiring them...

and the gene pool dropouts... i didn't mention any.
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what I did say is that you hear of more people getting shot accidentally than you hear of homeowners successfully fighting back with their handgun when being surprised by a burglar.

that's not to say it doesn't happen, but which happens more?

AND, like I said, I HAVE KIDS IN MY HOUSE AND THEY BRING THEIR FRIENDS OVER.
i would be a horribly irresponsible parent if i left a loaded gun someplace where any of them could get it.
 
Listening to bm and gom scare me. Regardless of what has happened in the past to you or your family it is YOUR responsible to ensure the safety of any person that walks into your home period. Yes yes yes you will be sure they all knew your a gun toting Mama. Just take this to heart..Never never ever think for one second that any child even your own will understand the magnitute of death with a firearm, unless you plan on showing video. I personally have many guns; hand guns, shotguns and a few I'd rather not mention. :) In my home they were always unloaded and locked in a metal cabinet. The peace of mind of knowing I never have to worry about a potential accident is far more relieving then worrying I'm going to be involved in a home break in.
 
lol, yes it it a poor arguement... too bad you supplied both sides of it. lol

i never said someone will just come knocking on your door. they might break in, yes. or like you said, you might inadvertently invite them in by hiring them...

and the gene pool dropouts... i didn't mention any.
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what I did say is that you hear of more people getting shot accidentally than you hear of homeowners successfully fighting back with their handgun when being surprised by a burglar.

that's not to say it doesn't happen, but which happens more?

AND, like I said, I HAVE KIDS IN MY HOUSE AND THEY BRING THEIR FRIENDS OVER.
i would be a horribly irresponsible parent if i left a loaded gun someplace where any of them could get it.

First of all, anyone that leaves a weapon "laying around" is grossly irresponsible, so that argument tells me even if you wanted a gun you should never get one.

As far as hearing about a homeowner fighting off an intruder, when an alarm goes off they usually leave quickly. The issue is when you are someplace that you can't be "protected" in that case anyone that continues to advance after a warning of "STOP" gets shot. I don't know where you "hear" all these people getting shot accidently, the biggest press we have here was the vice pres shooting someone, other than that I haven't heard of an acccidental shooting for a long time, but I have seen the numbers climb for murders. in 1960 there were 9,110, in 2007 there were almost 17,000. There were also thousands of children abused, women abused and tens of thousands of homeless people without food. Adopt a child, feed a homeless person or help an abused women find a job. Leave guns to people that don't leave them laying around and know how to use them. I promise I won't acccidentally shoot anyone.

When someone is in your home without your invitation they are not there to help you with the laundry. They will be shot if they do not comply. If someone comes into our room at night they will be shot if they do not comply. Wide awake or just awakened I spent years almost asleep (the 3 tours in Viet Nam). So about others I can not comment. Locking a trigger or putting it in a safe when you are home is useless. I know with proper training and being a careful owner your weapons will be as faithful as a well trained dog. Do we need to revisit that subject?

So never buy a gun, please, you have children roaming throughout your room and drawers.

Secondly, never go outside cause you are a target.
 
wow, once again GOM resorts to sarcastic insults to get his point made for absolutely no reason. bravo!

Huh?

Usually you are right on and crystal clear. Your statement is way off. We have 2 people living in a house you have kids and their friends wondering through yours.

What you said in your post is. Bikinimom is irresponsible. Is that how I read it? I believe so.

so what are you talking about?

If anything your statement was the one off color. Ya might want to re read your post before coming up with this "sarcastic no reason statement you made about me.
 
Huh?

Usually you are right on and crystal clear. Your statement is way off. We have 2 people living in a house you have kids and their friends wondering through yours.

What you said in your post is. Bikinimom is irresponsible. Is that how I read it? I believe so.

so what are you talking about?

If anything your statement was the one off color. Ya might want to re read your post before coming up with this "sarcastic no reason statement you made about me.


wait, first you said

Point not made very well in usual letto style.

and now you said i'm usually right on.
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I didn't say bmom is irresponsible at all... you did.

First of all, anyone that leaves a weapon "laying around" is grossly irresponsible, so that argument tells me even if you wanted a gun you should never get one.
 
wait, first you said



and now you said i'm usually right on.
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I didn't say bmom is irresponsible at all... you did.

Usually you are articulate witty and amazingly perceptive. what you said was;

Quote posted by Grumpy Old Man
First of all, anyone that leaves a weapon "laying around" is grossly irresponsible, so that argument tells me even if you wanted a gun you should never get one.
Quote posted by BIKINIMOM
There will be a loaded weapon on my nightstand,
then we are in agreement.

No you did, we have no children or anyone else living in our house.

Now spin that.
 
I'd never even held a firearm let alone discharged a weapon. We started with a BB Rifle, then a 22 caliber shotgun and finally a 22 caliber pistol. The posted target was from when we were shooting the handgun. I was the only one who got it in the pink. :) The men were both exmilitary (my husband hasn't shot in over 15 years), our host had 20 years in military but has MANY firearms and our hostess had been taught to (and shot regularly) since she was a little girl. She was an AWESOME shot.

I was told that I am a natural.

I was always TERRIFIED of firearms even though both parents had guns and carry permits and my brother also had several firearms. I was afraid of what it would "feel like" to pull the trigger... but after the first shot (where only the recoil was a shock to me) I was hooked. I had read before that women who fear firearms become quickly seduced by the power that wielding a weapon brings.

I concurr 100%...

Now I am eager to shoot game and fire a shotgun. The power must be awesome.

I can't wait to teach my girls the power that comes from wielding a firearm...
heaven help any poor bastard who ever comes into my home with ill intentions. I have no doubt that I will not hesitate to blow a hole clear through them if they are fool enough to target MY home.

Boy, 8, dies after accidentally shooting himself with UZI at Westfield Sportsman's Club machine gun shoot - MassLive.com


The metaphors to condoms, nailfiles and falling in the shower don't hold a lot of weight even for skilled responsible gun owners. I think you should think more seriously before your kids come to live with you.
 
Usually you are articulate witty and amazingly perceptive. what you said was;

Quote posted by Grumpy Old Man
First of all, anyone that leaves a weapon "laying around" is grossly irresponsible, so that argument tells me even if you wanted a gun you should never get one.
Quote posted by BIKINIMOM
There will be a loaded weapon on my nightstand,
then we are in agreement.

No you did, we have no children or anyone else living in our house.

Now spin that.

i don't have to.
neither quote is by me, so how do you get that i said anything?
i just put them together in one post, but you guys said em. :)

maybe you shouldn't have said that ANYONE who leaves a gun laying around, etc.
because apparently what you meant is "anyone with children in the house".

Since I said I never would leave a gun laying around because I have children in my house, your post about how I shouldn't have a gun if i'd do that is moot.
 
wait.

update.

GOM and I exchanged PM's. we have misunderstood eachother completely.
he did not mean to sound insulting towards me, and I didn't mean to sound so biting and like bmom is/will be irresponsible because I know she wouldn't be.

we now agree and plan on getting married as soon as we get rid that wif of his.
 
yo... letto... don't leave that vibrating thing laying around either. ;)
 
i would be a horribly irresponsible parent if i left a loaded gun someplace where any of them could get it.

Your kids and their friends are in and out of YOUR bedroom?

Interesting, I grew up with BOTH PARENTS having firearms AND carry permits. When they didn't have their guns on their person THEY LEFT THEM OUT IN FULL VIEW ON THE NIGHTSTAND... LOADED.

My older brother also had several fire arms AND a carry permit.

I remember the day when my mother and father showed us (all three us kids) their pistols. My father told us to hold both guns. I was TERRIFIED. My father showed me that both guns were empty (unloaded) then told me to hold both weapons. He next said this is your mothers and this is my gun. You are never EVER to touch, handle, or come near either. If you do touch them, they will most likely kill you and/or anyone else in the room. Am I clear?

I was a child (don't think I was much older than 10). This made my brother bout 12 and my sister 7.

NONE OF US EVER EVER EVER FELT THE NEED TO GO ANYWHERE NEAR EITHER GUN. Hell, I was afraid to pick up my mother's handbag and hand it to her because I knew that there was most likely a loaded gun in it.

Now, if the three of us were parented responsibly enough to:

1. Know not to touch their parent's firearms EVER for any reason.

2. Know not to play or go into our parent's bedroom - NEVER would we think to bring company in their.

Then why on EARTH would I be less able to parent my children any differently?... especially in light of the fact that my youngest child is 12?

Hell, I used to refuse to dust my father's nightstand for the simple fact that the gun was setting there.

I have cousins who live on farms, all of them can shoot shotguns and rifles NEVER has anyone in my family or in any village that my family lives *accidentally* shot a human being, or even an animal. If they picked up that firearm, it was to kill whatever the target was.

Guns are like abortions. If you are against them, then just don't get them.

Interesting SEVERAL WOMEN have posted on this thread about the firearms they have, and one has indicated by the nature of her posting that she has a carry permit as well, or at least knows women that carry.... but "some are afraid because of listening to my husband and I post"?

You gotta be kiddin me.

Putting a loaded gun on my nightstand is not "leaving a gun" laying around. You got no business in my bedroom unless I've invited you in there. PERIOD... I don't care how old/young you are.

If I have company (like need2) and his children again then OF COURSE I will make necessary changes because I know that his children, though sweethearts and very wellbehaved are simply too young to understand the rammifications of playing with a dangerous weapon.

Other than that, I don't think that my TEEN-AGERS will be playing with any 4 year olds. To make such an arguement is silly.

My comments are not directed towards any one person. There is no need for anyone to take offense or feel singled-out.

As I said, if you don't want a gun then goodness sakes DONT GET ONE.

If you do - then you had damned well better be 100%comfortable and knowledgeable otherwise, yea, you are a statistic waiting to happen and most likely more of a liability than a random dope fiend that might target my house in my neighborhood looking for shit to steal to get your next fix.
 
wait, first you said



and now you said i'm usually right on.
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I didn't say bmom is irresponsible at all... you did.

No, he didn't...

Putting a weapon on my nightstand in my bedroom in my home is NOT irresponsible.

My husband got insulted because he thought you were insinuating that because I don't have my children living with me and you do, you know better. I know that isn't what you meant.

As I said very clearly, I grew up with guns and never felt the need to touch my parents' weapons and neither did any of my cousins on the farms where they grew up.

Can't we please stop taking shit personal?

(This includes my husband)...
 
No, he didn't...

Putting a weapon on my nightstand in my bedroom in my home is NOT irresponsible.

My husband got insulted because he thought you were insinuating that because I don't have my children living with me and you do, you know better. I know that isn't what you meant.

Can't we please stop taking shit personal?

(This includes my husband)...

lol they already worked it out, welcome to 20 minutes ago :D
 
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The metaphors to condoms, nailfiles and falling in the shower don't hold a lot of weight even for skilled responsible gun owners. I think you should think more seriously before your kids come to live with you.

Personal insult that was totally unwarranted.

I was raped which is a violent crime so sorry, the metaphor is accurate. I've also been beaten beyond recognition/out cold on more than one occasion.

Believe me when I tell you - I am DEAD serious.
 
bmom, i'm not judging you for what you want to do. all i've said is why *I* don't need one and wouldn't get one.

i didn't say anything about anyone who leaves a gun on their nighttable- i think your husband did but like I said, we had a misunderstanding so maybe he was referring to people who leave guns laying around other parts of their home.

if you want to get one, that's up to you. I still think that if you have kids in the house, guns should be locked up, since kids do a lot of things they aren't supposed to do.

i do, however, think that you are a responsible person/parent, so when the time comes that your kids are in your house(and it will), you'll do the right thing, i'm sure.
 
lol they already worked it out, welcome to 20 minutes ago :D

Interesting...

Only ONE PERSON felt the need to take a cheap shot about my situation with my children, though not totally surprizing considering the source.

I am very pleased with the thread overall as TWO sensitive issues were discussed with 99% maturity. These issues were:

1. The empowerment of women.

2. Gun control.
 
sooo... this thread is about an ole texas lady who when to the shooting range ...now wants to own a gun...wantzs her children to learn how to operate a gun a soon as possible...and peple are complaining that its a crazy ass idea and that texas is in a world of its own ? i dont wanna read the 8 pages :P
 
HOLY Toledo that's not what I meant at all.
you know that though. :heart:

Yup.. I knew that 100% and that is why I sorta lovingly slapped him on the wrist in public. (I will break out the red patent leather thigh high stiletto platforms, merrywidow and riding crop in private :velvett )

I love my husband to death but he is human, as am I, as are MOST of us. :) He gets his back up very quickly if he thinks anyone is attacking me... I love him for it. Not a lot of men would be willing to champion their wife like that.:heart:

I am very disappointed, however, in the comments of one boardmember though, because I know FOR FACT that he was taking cheap shots at my personal situation. I ignored it the first time, but he couldn't contain himself regardless.... could he?

*sigh*
 
sooo... this thread is about an ole texas lady who when to the shooting range ...now wants to own a gun...wantzs her children to learn how to operate a gun a soon as possible...and peple are complaining that its a crazy ass idea and that texas is in a world of its own ? i dont wanna read the 8 pages :P

Ummm no.
 
Yup.. I knew that 100% and that is why I sorta lovingly slapped him on the wrist in public. (I will break out the red patent leather thigh high stiletto platforms, merrywidow and riding crop in private :velvett )

I love my husband to death but he is human, as am I, as are MOST of us. :) He gets his back up very quickly if he thinks anyone is attacking me... I love him for it. Not a lot of men would be willing to champion their wife like that.:heart:

I am very disappointed, however, in the comments of one boardmember though, because I know FOR FACT that he was taking cheap shots at my personal situation. I ignored it the first time, but he couldn't contain himself regardless.... could he?

*sigh*


crap, now i have to read back through 79 posts to find who you're referring to.
 
Interesting...

Only ONE PERSON felt the need to take a cheap shot about my situation with my children, though not totally surprizing considering the source.

I am very pleased with the thread overall as TWO sensitive issues were discussed with 99% maturity. These issues were:

1. The empowerment of women.

2. Gun control.


wait...there was a cheap shot? where?
 
Oh wait.... is this the story about the 8 yr old who shot and killed his father (who had sole physical custody of the boy) and his father's buddy? This is tragic only in that this man fucked his only BABY up to hate him enough to have the CHILD blow him away in cold blood... I feel sadness for that child in ways that very few of you can understand.
 

The links don't go specifically to a post in particular but since we can agree to get along and hate canadians (well, I only have an issue with the ones that are challenged enough to have THE BALLS to reference my personals situation with my children) I am assuming you know who I am speaking of.

Either way.... no biggie. As I said, I expected it. That is why I ignored it the first time. I mean one can't be expected to swim with negativity and hatred on a regular basis and not have it rub off. :whatever:
 
The young lady with a gun...dangerous days. What has America come to?

;)
 
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