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BFold, the way I have been painted out to be whodathunk I would have either?!... well the gun part sorta took me by surprize, truth be told.
Well hell, Ah lives have changed so much since we first e-met. 8 years iza loooong ass time. (Said in my best faux-Texan accent)
Your little man must be gettin HYUGE by now!!! So when you guys going to have a little girl as pretty as your lovely wife?
(What can I say? It pleases me to see people happy!)
I had to go back to find who first took this thread from a straightforward discussion of picking out and learning to use a firearm for personal protection. Interesting topic I wanted to discuss, but I've waited seven pages for no response to my post because this had to become a clusterfuck about kids in the house, and other people not wanting guns.
Don't like guns, don't buy one. Post elsewhere. Now let us talk about guns.
Don't like guns, don't buy one. Post elsewhere. Now let us talk about guns.
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Will you marry me? LOL
As I said, my experience is limited because I've only had one day with firearms so I am sooooooo opposite any kind of authority on the matter.
I shot a 22 caliber revolver. I was comfortable shooting it but I wouldn't consider a weapon of this sort for personal protection. It's too awkward and wouldn't fit into a handbag. Not to mention you can't fire quickly enough. Cocking the gun was clumsy. Though once I got better at aiming, I became faster and challenged myself to see how quickly I could cock the gun and fire it. I think this would be fun at a firing range or shooting potatoes or cans off a fence out in the country. May get one just for that purpose but personal protection - no go.
I want something that has some weight to it. I know that seems strange but it is a *power* thing. Maybe I will get over that *romantic* aspect once I have had the chance to handle several different weapons. I just want a gun to feel like a gun (not a toy) in my hands. My mother had a very small pearl-handled automatic weapon (I don't recall what kind it was). I'd always thought *meh* when I remember handling it. When I held my father's pistol, though, I remember fear shooting through my nervous system. To this day I remember thinking, "OMG I could take someone's life with this."
I want to feel the same thing when I get my own handgun.
As I said, who knows? Once I've had the opportunity to handle several different weapons I will think differently.
As for recoil, the 22 caliber revolver didn't really have much. I mean, it didn't seem that way to me. The biggest bitch of shooting the damned thing for me was:
1. It was windy as a somnabitch and I had trouble keeping the gun steady as a result.
2. Cocking the gun between shots.
I am a small woman who doesn't have the biggest hands.
As I said, my experience is limited because I've only had one day with firearms so I am sooooooo opposite any kind of authority on the matter.
I shot a 22 caliber revolver. I was comfortable shooting it but I wouldn't consider a weapon of this sort for personal protection. It's too awkward and wouldn't fit into a handbag. Not to mention you can't fire quickly enough. Cocking the gun was clumsy. Though once I got better at aiming, I became faster and challenged myself to see how quickly I could cock the gun and fire it. I think this would be fun at a firing range or shooting potatoes or cans off a fence out in the country. May get one just for that purpose but personal protection - no go.
I want something that has some weight to it. I know that seems strange but it is a *power* thing. Maybe I will get over that *romantic* aspect once I have had the chance to handle several different weapons. I just want a gun to feel like a gun (not a toy) in my hands. My mother had a very small pearl-handled automatic weapon (I don't recall what kind it was). I'd always thought *meh* when I remember handling it. When I held my father's pistol, though, I remember fear shooting through my nervous system. To this day I remember thinking, "OMG I could take someone's life with this."
I want to feel the same thing when I get my own handgun.
As I said, who knows? Once I've had the opportunity to handle several different weapons I will think differently.
As for recoil, the 22 caliber revolver didn't really have much. I mean, it didn't seem that way to me. The biggest bitch of shooting the damned thing for me was:
1. It was windy as a somnabitch and I had trouble keeping the gun steady as a result.
2. Cocking the gun between shots.
I am a small woman who doesn't have the biggest hands.
Yeah I'm not really a fan of 22's. You really want to be able to stop a bad guy with one shot, and there's a good chance a 22 won't do that. Since you're looking for a good carry, I'd suggest you focus on bigger calibers.
The hand size thing is a big issue for us since our hands are smaller, and can mean we need a lot longer than a man to find the right firearm. FYI you can get special grips for most weapons that can make one much easier to hold securely, so don't let a shitty grip put you off a particular gun. Look for a gun that just feels right in your hand. Almost like an extension of it. Hard to describe, but you'll know it when you feel it.
Absolutely DO NOT compromise though. God forbid you are ever in a "stress situation" where you have to draw it like I have, but if you are, your weapon needs to be perfect for you. If you aren't comfortable with it and are giving the vibe you are afraid of it, your weapon won't help. If fact it will probably be taken away from you, and maybe used against you. When I pulled mine on three guys that were trying to surround me, I feel it my eye contact and bodylanguage that stopped them, not the gun in my hand. It was evident I was very ready to put three center mass in the one I was looking at.
sexist!!!
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There are narrow grips that can be custom ordered..
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Lookee... it's my Old Grump.... hehehehe
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Watch the video... the guy looks a lot like my husband only this guy is a bit lighter (sorry honey, but he IS) and my husband's beard isn't nearly as long... yet. oi
They are having a gun show here in downtown Dallas this weekend. And I am sure that we will make it out to the firing range soon.
This conversation is absolutely fascinating. Well for me anyways.
Smurfy, the first time you fire a handgun you will lose any fear that you had before (if you had any).
Rottenwillow - I hear what you are saying 100%. A person (especially not a man) doesn't understand what it feels like to be violated or to be put in fear of being violated at any given moment. As women, we have that with us at all times. I can be the biggest baddest female on the planet, I would still be NO MATCH for a man who wants to do me harm. Thank you for sharing your personal experience with us. It's greatly appreciated.
This is a very personal decision for everyone; one that is not to be taken lightly.
N another but still connected note, I learned this weekend that at one point in time my husband was quite the marksman (aside from military LOL). I am REALLY wanting to get involved with shooting competively - the challenge of shooting not only game but also trap and skeet. I want to be able to shoot two targets with one shot! HA!
GunBlast.com - Table of Contents
Watch the video... the guy looks a lot like my husband only this guy is a bit lighter (sorry honey, but he IS) and my husband's beard isn't nearly as long... yet. oi
They are having a gun show here in downtown Dallas this weekend. And I am sure that we will make it out to the firing range soon.
This conversation is absolutely fascinating. Well for me anyways.
Smurfy, the first time you fire a handgun you will lose any fear that you had before (if you had any).
Rottenwillow - I hear what you are saying 100%. A person (especially not a man) doesn't understand what it feels like to be violated or to be put in fear of being violated at any given moment. As women, we have that with us at all times. I can be the biggest baddest female on the planet, I would still be NO MATCH for a man who wants to do me harm. Thank you for sharing your personal experience with us. It's greatly appreciated.
This is a very personal decision for everyone; one that is not to be taken lightly.
N another but still connected note, I learned this weekend that at one point in time my husband was quite the marksman (aside from military LOL). I am REALLY wanting to get involved with shooting competively - the challenge of shooting not only game but also trap and skeet. I want to be able to shoot two targets with one shot! HA!
Grumpy Old Man
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We just had that conversation about mass and foot pounds PSI the .45 wins, we will shoot a few then as milk and you said grips custom ordered.
My favorite is the old 1911 I carried so long that clanged and slapped for 7 yrs on my side. Then the commander is close, all the new .45's are awesome, now we are talking about perimeter protection. 50 cal or Howitzer.....
j/k
But eye contact is always the one thing that keeps sissy boys away, course the .45 prolly made their little pee pee's go turtle
yeah get her one of those Iraeli monsters with a 13" barrell.
Most young people my age have no respect for the 1911, but it's been around for nearly 100 for a good reason. I've never owned one, but I've fired one. Beats the shit out of comparable Berettas IMO, and relatively inexpensive too.
With a woman I believe it's entirely about body language and eye contact. I think with a man they look at the gun. With a woman they look at you (trust me on this one). The assumption first being she's too terrified to use it. Only when they see you aren't do they get that "oooh ok maybe I fucked up" look.
hey you guys should at least try the Glock 30 (subcompact 45acp). I'd had it for over a year now. Very nice carry, and as you probably already know there's bucoos of customs grips available for Glocks.
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Even without a weapon when it comes to an assailant sizing up a prospective victim (just like the sickos in the park do with little kids) they will ALWAYS look at body language. You couldn't be more on the money with that comment. I admit I have a hard time with this though I've gotten A LOT better.
I'm looking forward to the gun show this weekend. Will report back on Monday.
I'm looking forward to the gun show this weekend. Will report back on Monday.
BFold, the way I have been painted out to be whodathunk I would have either?!... well the gun part sorta took me by surprize, truth be told.
Well hell, Ah lives have changed so much since we first e-met. 8 years iza loooong ass time. (Said in my best faux-Texan accent)
Your little man must be gettin HYUGE by now!!! So when you guys going to have a little girl as pretty as your lovely wife?
(What can I say? It pleases me to see people happy!)
What kind of paint did they use to pain you anyway? What color? Who got to hold the brush?
Steven is big...more than a handfull. Having a girl? Gosh...we worked hard enough just to have one. Not sure I've got the energy in me to have another!
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Have I told you lately that I wuv you?!
Hey, if li'l old me could make four in five years then a big feller like yerself has gotta have AT LEAST 12 in him!!!
Have I told you lately that I wuv you?!
Hey, if li'l old me could make four in five years then a big feller like yerself has gotta have AT LEAST 12 in him!!!
Yeah...but my wife is pretty small!
I'm a full-time dad (and business(es) owner) and I can't imagine a tougher job...unless you add in another young'n right now.
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when i was in the military i was selected to be in the force protection. i had to go through a "police academy" in the navy and get qualified to carry the weapons. well on the very first .45 cal shoot i scored expert and recieved my expert pistol medal. i missed getting perfect by 5 points only because i grouped my shots together so tight they could count all the holes so they left one out. bastards..... anyway, they asked me how long i have been shooting. the truth is i only shot a hand gun once in my life before that day with a friends gun at a gun range and i did pretty good there too.
point is some people have it naturally and some dont. congrats BM on the shooting. its a great feeling when you out shoot everyone else that has been doing it their entire lives.
next time we get together we might have to have a competition......
point is some people have it naturally and some dont. congrats BM on the shooting. its a great feeling when you out shoot everyone else that has been doing it their entire lives.
next time we get together we might have to have a competition......
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I honestly didn't mean it as a personal insult and have a hard time understanding why you took it that way unless you're confusing me with someone.
You mentioned if your kids were disobedient and didn't listen to your instructions on handling guns they deserved to be taken out of the gene pool.
Kids are kids and like all of us, use poor judgement and combined with guns, sometimes proves to be fatal. That's all I meant. Not attacking your situation. I've always wished you well in your effort to get your kids back and have never taken any low blows.
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Apology accepted.
It was the "IF and WHEN" comment that first sent my back up. There is no IF and WHEN my children are able to escape the madhouse they are trapped in and come to live with me... only WHEN.
As for kids being kids, believe me, it hasn't been that long since I had my girls with me that I'd forgotten. I had 4 children in 5 years with no help from ANYONE - including their father.
My youngest is now 12 (10 DEC) and my oldest is 16+.
To be honest if I do lock up my firearms it will be to protect MYSELF and my husband against the oldest child. .... or to protect my second oldest from herself. Either way, gun, kitchen knife or whathaveyou if a body is going to want to do harm to themselves or another, they will find a way. There is nothing that you can tell me that I haven't thought of at least five millions times.... I mean NOTHING.
Just because I don't post up every little detail of my thought processes that doesn't mean that the thoughts have not entered my mind.
As I said, I grew up with firearms in the house and so did multiple cousins on farms. My husband has had multiple firearms with children in the house. We have many friends who grew up with firearms and who raised their children with firearms.
I appreciate your point of view but recognize that I and my husband are fully aware of the gravity of such a decision, because of our life experiences: what he have been given (a chance at happiness with one another) and also what has been taken away (our children). Our family is most precious to us.
Grumpy Old Man
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yeah get her one of those Iraeli monsters with a 13" barrell.
Most young people my age have no respect for the 1911, but it's been around for nearly 100 for a good reason. I've never owned one, but I've fired one. Beats the shit out of comparable Berettas IMO, and relatively inexpensive too.
With a woman I believe it's entirely about body language and eye contact. I think with a man they look at the gun. With a woman they look at you (trust me on this one). The assumption first being she's too terrified to use it. Only when they see you aren't do they get that "oooh ok maybe I fucked up" look.
hey you guys should at least try the Glock 30 (subcompact 45acp). I'd had it for over a year now. Very nice carry, and as you probably already know there's bucoos of customs grips available for Glocks.
I had a Glock 40 for a couple years I liked it there were a few things that differed from my Commander and 1911 but it was a great reliable weapon that fired every time and even when I was in Alaska hunting for Sept to Oct 15 a couplke years ago it fuctioned in the rain and snow/ice. I think this weekend she will be able to handle enough handguns that she can find a comfortable pistol and a set of grips. Gun shows are a great place to see every type of weapon and we will probably pick up a couple shotguns since we have a trap & skeet range close to our house. That will hone her bird skills for the upcoming season.
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When I was in Benning doing that training thing The old boys that had been hunting since they were 6 did awful and the city kids that never touched a weapon did great. I guess it's all about learning and having the talent. I have found some really are good and some people never get it, by the way I am looking forward to seeing you again. We will certainly have a competition, then off to the bar.
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