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Anyone here take a CIA/FBI/NSA polygraph?

needtogetarmy

needtogetarmy

CEO of Project Mayhem
I am wondering what type of questions they ask for CIA/FBI/NSA polygraph employment tests. I've googled it but didn't come up with much.
 
They are going to ask you about things that are illegal and whether you have done them or not.
 
I was told the other day there is a good chance I have to take it soon to keep my clearance. That will suck but when I do I'll post up. My theory is the same as George's "It's not a lie if you believe it".
 
Yes.

They ask questions pertaining to your application for instance:

place of residence
how many times you have done illegal drugs
are you a homosexual
do you like childeren in a sexual way
have you ever stolen
have you ever defrfauded an employer
have you ever used an alias
are you working with a foriegn nation
are you an Amercian Citizen
have you ever accepted a bribe
have you ever had suicidal thoughts are you a maniac depressant


I can go on for an hour.. I could only answer yes or no... they will not let you answer any other way. The damn thing went on for an hour. the questions are taken off of your appplication
 
Arabian said:
Yes.

They ask questions pertaining to your application for instance:

place of residence
how many times you have done illegal drugs
are you a homosexual
do you like childeren in a sexual way
have you ever stolen
have you ever defrfauded an employer
have you ever used an alias
are you working with a foriegn nation
are you an Amercian Citizen
have you ever accepted a bribe
have you ever had suicidal thoughts are you a maniac depressant


I can go on for an hour.. I could only answer yes or no... they will not let you answer any other way. The damn thing went on for an hour. the questions are taken off of your appplication
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I had a Presidential clearance with the state and had to go through it... AV pm or email me if you need anything.. I may be able to dig my application up for your class
 
HAHAHAHA man you got off easy....... and what are ya doin' posting it. UH if they wanted that info out everyone would know it, seriously. I still say that was very general and no comment (hint in there)
 
You know what kills me, is people like DBBT. You say you gonna do something, then some asshole wants a double standard from ya. Like don't ask sources, OK I won't. Well, can you figure where I am going................. and besides....... every post in here can be accessed to some point, by anyone, how do you know the CIA/FBI isn't here? I garantee they are..........
 
walliwalibus said:
You know what kills me, is people like DBBT. You say you gonna do something, then some asshole wants a double standard from ya. Like don't ask sources, OK I won't. Well, can you figure where I am going................. and besides....... every post in here can be accessed to some point, by anyone, how do you know the CIA/FBI isn't here? I garantee they are..........
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well screw them if they are.
 
walliwalibus said:
You know what kills me, is people like DBBT. You say you gonna do something, then some asshole wants a double standard from ya. Like don't ask sources, OK I won't. Well, can you figure where I am going................. and besides....... every post in here can be accessed to some point, by anyone, how do you know the CIA/FBI isn't here? I garantee they are..........
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which makes it Sooooo scary huh wallibus? So scary, me no tell. Me keep the test info to myself like they told me to. Me good. Me no take drugs. lmfao, get a clue. Look out for the CIA/FBI on this thread! Wallibee is such a goood boi. Wallibe just figga'd out this place is surrounded lol.
 
the courts ruled that lifestyle polygraphs are unconstitutional, as it is considered an invasion of privacy.

come on, people...
 
what if you stole a bracelet or something dumb when you are a kid?

You would have to answer yes, even though you have never really stolen anything, at least in your adult life. lol. Would that automatically raise a red flag or keep you from getting clearance? who could live up to such standards?
 
cindylou said:
what if you stole a bracelet or something dumb when you are a kid?

You would have to answer yes, even though you have never really stolen anything, at least in your adult life. lol. Would that automatically raise a red flag or keep you from getting clearance? who could live up to such standards?
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it's not like that...everyone has skeletons...
 
Arabian said:
Yes.

They ask questions pertaining to your application for instance:

place of residence
how many times you have done illegal drugs
are you a homosexual
do you like childeren in a sexual way
have you ever stolen
have you ever defrfauded an employer
have you ever used an alias
are you working with a foriegn nation
are you an Amercian Citizen
have you ever accepted a bribe
have you ever had suicidal thoughts are you a maniac depressant


I can go on for an hour.. I could only answer yes or no... they will not let you answer any other way. The damn thing went on for an hour. the questions are taken off of your appplication
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Thanks. I finally found a site that actually had some listed. It was tough to find it though.

I've read up a lot on it and it doesn't seem all that reliable.
 
walliwalibus said:
HAHAHAHA man you got off easy....... and what are ya doin' posting it. UH if they wanted that info out everyone would know it, seriously. I still say that was very general and no comment (hint in there)
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Polygraph questions for gaining clearance are hardly classified information. I live in DC and a ton of my friends have had to take a polygraph for their govt jobs and it's common knowledge that things of this nature are asked.
 
cindylou said:
what if you stole a bracelet or something dumb when you are a kid?

You would have to answer yes, even though you have never really stolen anything, at least in your adult life. lol. Would that automatically raise a red flag or keep you from getting clearance? who could live up to such standards?
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Nah....I know people who admitted to doing illegal things that still got TS/SCI clearance (the highest level). The biggest hurdle is showing honesty as well as mental stability and not having anything in your past or present that could be used against you by an outside force to gain classified information. Of course it depends on what the activity was, how long ago it was, etc...but something like that wouldn't matter for shit. They only ask about the past ten years, anyway.
 
nefertiti said:
Nah....I know people who admitted to doing illegal things that still got TS/SCI clearance (the highest level). The biggest hurdle is showing honesty as well as mental stability and not having anything in your past or present that could be used against you by an outside force to gain classified information. Of course it depends on what the activity was, how long ago it was, etc...but something like that wouldn't matter for shit. They only ask about the past ten years, anyway.
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We had a guy with 5 DWI's, and he got one in law school, and was still admitted to the bar lol

I think the key is being honest and not having any large skeletons in your closet. I was devious when I was 17 years old and younger. I changed my ways though. Learning things the hard way is the sometimes the best way to learn.
 
p0ink said:
not so.
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(shrug) well maybe the polygraph part is different, but my understanding is that TS/SCi only goes back that far as far as the investigation part goes. Still, cindy stealing a bracelet when she was a wee one wouldn't matter.
 
nefertiti said:
(shrug) well maybe the polygraph part is different, but my understanding is that TS/SCi only goes back that far as far as the investigation part goes. Still, cindy stealing a bracelet when she was a wee one wouldn't matter.
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I hope not lol
 
Never took any of those test, but I did traverse the rice paper without leaving and mark, then grab a pebble from the master's hand. :)
 
Army Vet said:
Thanks. I finally found a site that actually had some listed. It was tough to find it though.

I've read up a lot on it and it doesn't seem all that reliable.
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AV its not... its just a form of intimadation that they use.. The US court systems have deemed it unconstitutional....
 
nefertiti said:
(shrug) well maybe the polygraph part is different, but my understanding is that TS/SCi only goes back that far as far as the investigation part goes. Still, cindy stealing a bracelet when she was a wee one wouldn't matter.
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all dependent on what level of clearance a person is getting.
 
Arabian said:
AV its not... its just a form of intimadation that they use.. The US court systems have deemed it unconstitutional....
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I'll PM you with some questions when I am done researching this stuff.

I checked our the American Bar site and they had some info on how unreliable it is.

I am not really worried about it. I am the type that prepares for everything ahead of time. I'll be looking for a job next summer and rather head to corporate finance I think I am going to hit up the CIA, FBI, or maybe the SEC and see what they offer. I am tired of reading 100 page research reports. I want some action.
 
On another note, like some questions I have seen ask if you have stolen anything.

I can't list the times I have pilfered something. For example, in the military we would be doing patrols during exercises and hit the visiting troops at night and take everything. One time we got away with four new HUMVEE tires (took them off the damn thing while the other guys were sleeping 50 feet away lol) If they ask me if I have stolen something, what the hell d? I say "Yes" and during the interview they are going to ask "What and how many times?" I'll have a laundry list lol

Perhaps I am being paranoid.

At least I don't need to worry about the homosexual questions lol
 
Army Vet said:
On another note, like some questions I have seen ask if you have stolen anything.

I can't list the times I have pilfered something. For example, in the military we would be doing patrols during exercises and hit the visiting troops at night and take everything. One time we got away with four new HUMVEE tires (took them off the damn thing while the other guys were sleeping 50 feet away lol) If they ask me if I have stolen something, what the hell d? I say "Yes" and during the interview they are going to ask "What and how many times?" I'll have a laundry list lol

Perhaps I am being paranoid.

At least I don't need to worry about the homosexual questions lol
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Dont list it on your application. They only know what you tell them.. They ask standard questions unless you confess or write a novel in your application....
 
dood...you are bring entirely too paranoid. they don't look for things to disqualify you, they just want to know you are honest...

and like the military...there are always waivers (if you need one)
 
p0ink said:
dood...you are bring entirely too paranoid. they don't look for things to disqualify you, they just want to know you are honest...

and like the military...there are always waivers (if you need one)
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It is my nature to be paranoid.
 
oodly enuff i've done tons of stuf fro the usg and never once took any test.

then again they needed me. therein lies the trick. supply and demand.

r
 
nefertiti said:
Yes, well, I'm talking about the highest level of clearance. My last boyfriend worked for JTTF with the FBI and had the highest level clearance possible (TS/SCI). For TS it goes back seven years and they don't always polygraph.
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ts/sci is not the highest level.
 
p0ink said:
ts/sci is not the highest level.
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I've never heard of a higher level than that. But arguing this is completely semantics and nit picking because my point still stands about what I was telling cindy.
 
what specific clearance are you trying to get?

Nobody here knows about what every single type of application process entails. Just because someone has a TS/SCI doesn't mean they know anything your specific situation; the whole point of SCI is that you need to special clearance for each different compartment, of which there tons of. TS/SCI requirement and screening procedures are different among different branches such as the FBI, CIA, and NSA; and are also different between various task forces within each branch. So nobody here has the right answer for you with any certainty, yet.
 
nimbus said:
what specific clearance are you trying to get?

Nobody here knows about what every single type of application entails process. Just because someone has a TS/SCI doesn't mean they know anything your specific situation; the whole point of SCI is that you need to special clearance for each different compartment, of which there tons of. TS/SCI requirement and screening procedure are different among different branches such as the FBI, CIA, and NSA; and are also different between various task forces within each branch. So nobody here has the right answer for you with any certainty, yet.
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This is true.
 
nimbus said:
what specific clearance are you trying to get?

Nobody here knows about what every single type of application process entails. Just because someone has a TS/SCI doesn't mean they know anything your specific situation; the whole point of SCI is that you need to special clearance for each different compartment, of which there tons of. TS/SCI requirement and screening procedures are different among different branches such as the FBI, CIA, and NSA; and are also different between various task forces within each branch. So nobody here has the right answer for you with any certainty, yet.
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Pass a general application for the CIA.
 
Army Vet said:
Pass a general application for the CIA.
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my good friend took it and failed it for a really stupid reason; i can't remember what it was but i'll call her tomorrow and ask about it.
 
Army Vet said:
I am wondering what type of questions they ask for CIA/FBI/NSA polygraph employment tests. I've googled it but didn't come up with much.
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Yes I have and it was by the CIA and I have no comment.

LOL. depends on what your going for and I'm to old to say what they ask now. They use to be after homos because they're easy to blackmail or so they said. Doubt that's in there anymore but it might be.

It really depends on what you want to do. Killer on the loose in a foreign country is much different from a office worker.
 
Army Vet said:
let me know when you find out.
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so i talked to her briefly and then my phone died, sorry i gotta try again lol.

What i got out of her before the convo got killed was that they asked her a bunch of questions about drugs, and the reason she got denied was because she admitted to taking adderall without a prescription in the last 6 months. I'll update this when i reach her again
 
so i also found out that they ask a lot of questions about your employment and specifically what you did when you were unemployed. they also ask about places you've traveled, and people you listed as references. criminal record is also discussed, and sometimes they ask you about your sexual history
 
nimbus said:
so i also found out that they ask a lot of questions about your employment and specifically what you did when you were unemployed. they also ask about places you've traveled, and people you listed as references. criminal record is also discussed, and sometimes they ask you about your sexual history
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Looks like the same old crap they always ask.

BTW - did she admit to the aderall use after she failed the test?
 
Army Vet said:
Looks like the same old crap they always ask.

BTW - did she admit to the aderall use after she failed the test?
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no she didn't lie at all, she confessed to taking it during the test, and they failed her because of it
 
Army Vet said:
Looks like the same old crap they always ask.

BTW - did she admit to the aderall use after she failed the test?
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I have passed many a polygraph. antipolygraph.org. Once you understand the difference between a control question, etc. It becomes very easy to beat. PM me with any questions.
 
walliwalibus said:
good point 1500, yes, right on the head. How long was the session?
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The initial 100 or so questions usually takes over an hour. Then another 30 to an hour on the box. Most that I have passed give the test three times, if deception is shown on the same question twice, then you are given it a third time. If you show deception on lets say two separate questions, but only on one of the tests, then you will only be administered two tests.

I PURPOSELY showed deception on "are the lights on in the room"? (an obvious control question) and believe it or not " have you ever stolen anything in your life"? (Another obvious control question) MOst agencies know that you have stolen something like a pen from work etc, and you're not going to remember all of these times, thus most likely show deception, which makes this question a very good control.

One skilled in taking a polygraph will know that you WANT to show the highest level of deception that you can on these controlled questions. Those of you familiar with the polygraph will know why.
 
If the other party wants you more than you want them -- you don't need them. :)

These tests are really ways to 'weed down numbers' for various jobs.

Even the Presidency of the United States job - doesn't require a polygraph test! (would be hillariuos though!)

r
 
1500 said:
The initial 100 or so questions usually takes over an hour. Then another 30 to an hour on the box. Most that I have passed give the test three times, if deception is shown on the same question twice, then you are given it a third time. If you show deception on lets say two separate questions, but only on one of the tests, then you will only be administered two tests.

I PURPOSELY showed deception on "are the lights on in the room"? (an obvious control question) and believe it or not " have you ever stolen anything in your life"? (Another obvious control question) MOst agencies know that you have stolen something like a pen from work etc, and you're not going to remember all of these times, thus most likely show deception, which makes this question a very good control.

One skilled in taking a polygraph will know that you WANT to show the highest level of deception that you can on these controlled questions. Those of you familiar with the polygraph will know why.
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One of the questions they ask is,,, "Have you studied ways to beat the polygraph, specifically using the interntet?".... LOL
 
scooter22 said:
One of the questions they ask is,,, "Have you studied ways to beat the polygraph, specifically using the interntet?".... LOL
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haha, i havent been asked that while I was on the box, but I was during the intial questioning and that is not a control question :)
 
nimbus said:
no she didn't lie at all, she confessed to taking it during the test, and they failed her because of it
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That's the thing I don't understand about organizations like the CIA. Why in God's name would you want to hire an Eagle Scout, whose never done anything wrong in his entire life, to perform something like espionage, which basically implies that you need to be at least a little sneaky and/or subversive.
 
Not anytime this life thanks.

Anyone else here going through the process of trying to join a government enforcement agency?
 
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