Anyone ever tried Peyote or Mescaline?

[Lestat]

Oooh, lol. This AIM thingy was distracting me.

And from what I can recall, LSD use does not lead to tolerance. Do you think that it does?

no offense, samote, I like you, but you are ignorant on this subject. LSD causes very RAPID tolerance... within DAYS.

 

[samoth]

Not if you jump out of the window thinking you can fly it don't!

I always wanted to try dipper sticks. They've always sounded at the extreme of drug potency and physiological effects on the organism.

 

[Bikini Mod]

your argument for not doing drugs is that they are dangerous right?

well apparently you choose to use that reasoning for SOME things in life, but not others. I'm not sure I understand why, but it doesn't really matter. You are free to not to anything you feel is too dangerous for you. There are plenty of things I do NOT do because of the same reason. LSD is not one of those, because from all the research I've done and college courses I've taken that discussed it (2) it is NOT life threatening and doesn't pose serious long term risk when not "abused." Of course some people "think" that it is, but I'd love to see their evidence/basis for such belief.

Think for yourself, question authority.

LOL Because I choose to value my life differently than you value yours you think that this means that I *allow* others to do my thinking for me?

 

[samoth]

no offense, samote, I like you, but you are ignorant on this subject. LSD causes very RAPID tolerance... within DAYS.

Okay. How? Via what mechanism? Acclimation to a drug's effects /= tolerance.

 

[Lestat]

Okay. How? Via what mechanism? Acclimation to a drug's effects /= tolerance.

My old textbooks are at home, but I can say this with certainty.

LSD produces rapid tolerance, more of the drug is needed to produce the same initial effect, after days of repeated use no amount of the drug will produce the desired effect.

This tolerance subsides after stopping usages for a few days, so you build tolerance quickly and recover from it quickly.

This is not habituation to the effects of the drugs, although I can't tell you the physical mechanism that causes the tolerance offhand.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I always wanted to try dipper sticks. They've always sounded at the extreme of drug potency and physiological effects on the organism.

See maybe I am just happy with the reality that I have with very little outside influence. But I have ALWAYS been shit scared to do any drug that would alter my perception of reality SO MUCH that I would lose all sense of reality right from the very moment it took effect.

I am VERY creative and satisfied with the sensations and interpretations that I have of MY REALITY pretty much the way I am with very little artificial enhancement.

If this means that I am vanilla....

*raises hand*

guilty as charged.

I just don't understand the need for such a feeling.... I am not putting anyone down for it. Seems silly if you ask me. And I told ya'll that since YOU DID ask me.

But if ya'll do, rock on. Just don't get behind the wheel of a car while I or any member of my family is on the road... m'kay? Then we will remain cool with one another.

 

[samoth]

LSD produces rapid tolerance, more of the drug is needed to produce the same initial effect, after days of repeated use no amount of the drug will produce the desired effect.

This tolerance subsides after stopping usages for a few days, so you build tolerance quickly and recover from it quickly.

Hmm. This is contrary to what I think, but interesting nonetheless.

 

[Lestat]

See maybe I am just happy with the reality that I have with very little outside influence. But I have ALWAYS been shit scared to do any drug that would alter my perception of reality SO MUCH that I would lose all sense of reality right from the very moment it took effect.

I am VERY creative and satisfied with the sensations and interpretations that I have of MY REALITY pretty much the way I am with very little artificial enhancement.

If this means that I am vanilla....

*raises hand*

guilty as charged.

I just don't understand the need for such a feeling.... I am not putting anyone down for it. Seems silly if you ask me. And I told ya'll that since YOU DID ask me.

But if ya'll do, rock on. Just don't get behind the wheel of a car while I or any member of my family is on the road... m'kay? Then we will remain cool with one another.

you are not vanilla, i don't think anyone NEEDS or SHOULD do drugs, its personal peference.

but when someone starts throwing out unfounded reasons for not wanting to do a drug, I question it.

For example, if you said, "I don't smoke weed because it will make my turn blue" I'd challenge that statement and ask you to show me why or how you came to believe this.

So if someone says "I'd never do a hallucinagenic because it don't wan't to be a loser" i'd also ask for some evidence or basis for the belief.

 

[Lestat]

Hmm. This is contrary to what I think, but interesting nonetheless.

also there is cross tolerance between lsd, schrooms, and mescaline FYI.

 

[stilleto]

LOL Because I choose to value my life differently than you value yours you think that this means that I *allow* others to do my thinking for me?

no, i think (and I could be wrong) what lestat is saying is that authority tells you that lsd for example is bad for you.

it's illegal, for one thing, plus there's so much press about the BAD things that can happen. but not a lot about the good things.

so you don't try it- ok. but you do... ride a motorcycle for example. something that I bet more people die from every year than lsd.

lestat, is that what you meant?